[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-05 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
Ok, well I'm still skeptical about multiple citservers running a single site in a non-federated tandem ... but either way it still sets out a pretty clear roadmap for the kind of things we need to do next. It still means we move all of the config stuff into the database. So we'll

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-04 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
I do understand the whole uptime thing. Remember, I work in the hosting business. I know all about 99.999% SLA's (which somehow seem to be disregarded when Exchange shits the bed -- shouldn't all those people be running something more reliable?) Only problem I can see with a

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-04 Thread harryc
P.S. I should have added:  the whole 'logging' thing goes away, and the 'CULL' command is a no-op in the HA setup. P.P.S. As I'm a bit late to the citadel world, I actually have no certain idea what anyone who posts here does for work, where in the world they live, or, well, anything.  I gather

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-04 Thread harryc
The beautiful thing about the mariadb/galera multimaster database approach is:  Each cit-server talking to a database server instance --- running on the same box citadel is --- thinks it's the only server running.  The fact that citadel has that wonderful 'go threading' call, and has sorted

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-03 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
From the very beginning, the idea of a pluggable data store has been part of the architecture. We've done it once -- originally we were using gdbm but because that was so unstable we switched to Berkeley DB. dothebart would undoubtedly want to use ArangoDB. I'm ok with it as long as it

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-03 Thread dothebart
  Fri Apr 03 2015 10:58:37 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT From the very beginning, the idea of a pluggable data store has been part of the architecture. We've done it once -- originally we were using "gdbm" but because that was so unstable we

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-03 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
I really don't think we should try to fill that gap - since nobody had scalability issues with citadel so far. Just for failover drdb is perfect. There was a time when we wanted to try to be an enterprise mail/groupware system. That gave rise to the Global Address Book and the idea

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-03 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
the idea that you could spread a single Internet domain across a large group of Citadel servers, and there is still all sorts of bizarre message routing code to make that happen. ... and this brings up the first bit of axe wielding. Effective immediately, I am removing support

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-02 Thread harryc
I've done a lot of comparison between options in the email server space, and also in the high availability space.  Because of the clamav and built in access to the spam daemon, Citadel server lacks only one thing to be the best replacement for hacked-together postfix+lmtp+caldav/webdav, etc.,

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-01 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
Ok folks, the v9.01 tag is in git, and Easy Install has been updated. I'll do the tarballs shortly. For the 9.xx development cycle, I'd like to keep the trunk fairly stable and do unstable work in branches, if possible. Some of the things I'd like to accomplish during 9.xx: *

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-04-01 Thread dothebart
  Wed Apr 01 2015 12:45:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT Whats the release version gonna be? 8.30? 9.01 I'm updating it now. did you try out the discount configure etc. code? I wasn't really able to test it, as I would have liked with

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-03-01 Thread dothebart
Ok, fixed some tiny leaks, and install stuff. easy install git will now drag discount - wasn't able to test it with the download yet, can we get queasy install working once more? http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Code/discount/discount-2.1.8.tar.gz should be copied to the download directory.

[Citadel Development] Re: CODE FREEZE - RELEASE IMMINENT

2015-03-01 Thread dothebart
hm, I've fixed the init script for the .debs, wanted to continue with easy install, but can't seem to find it? wouldn't setup contain them as here document?