Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jason Corley
Prolly the same place MySQL.com builds some of theirs. $ rpm -qpi MySQL-5.0.51a-0.src.rpm Name: MySQLRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 5.0.51a Vendor: MySQL AB Release : 0 Build Date: Mon Jan 14 06

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 4:53pm on Jun...: rpm -qi TIVsm-API Name: TIVsm-APIRelocations: /opt Version : 5.3.0 Vendor: IBM Release : 0 Build Date: Wed 08 Dec 2004 01:29

RE: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Wichmann, Mats D
Tim Mooney wrote: > In regard to: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 4:53pm > on Jun...: > >> rpm -qi TIVsm-API >> >> Name: TIVsm-APIRelocations: /opt >> Version : 5.3.0 Vendor: IBM >> Release : 0

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jason Corley
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you try sign an RPM built with 3.0.x with a 4.X.Y version of RPM, the > RPM becomes corrupted. > > Would this be something that's easy to fix -- make RPM 5.1.x capable of > signing both modern and ancient RPMs? It sure w

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 4:53pm on Jun...: rpm -qi TIVsm-API Name: TIVsm-APIRelocations: /opt Version : 5.3.0 Vendor: IBM Release : 0

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jason Corley said (at 12:35pm...: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you try sign an RPM built with 3.0.x with a 4.X.Y version of RPM, the RPM becomes corrupted. Would this be something that's

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread devzero2000
client/api/bin/.buildDate missing /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/lang/.buildDate On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jason Corley said (at > 12:35pm...: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tim Mooney

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jason Corley
ang/.buildDate<-- HARG > ### > rpm -V TIVsm-API > missing /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/api/bin/.buildDate > missing /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/lang/.buildDate > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 12:41pm...: Could a converter be written if preserving header+payload MD5 was not an issue? You betcha. The details necessary to do so I tried to send to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this weekend past, but apparently e-mail is be

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 12:41pm...: Could a converter be written if preserving header+payload MD5 was not an issue? You betcha. The details necessary to do so I tried to send to <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 2:35pm on...: On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 12:41pm...: Could a converter be written if preserving header+payload MD5 was not an issue? You

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: :-) I personally don't care about the loss of vendor signatures. Since I'm not very familiar with RPM internals, I'm not sure what all the implications are for the loss of header+payload MD5, but I'm guessing most RPM users won't care. Wel

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: > > In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at >> 12:41pm...: >> >> Could a converter be written if preservi

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: > > >> :-) I personally don't care about the loss of vendor signatures. Since >> I'm not very familiar with RPM internals, I'm not sure what all the >> implications are for

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:06pm on...: Why lusers want to resign package they have not created in first place: if they want signed package, well, they have to ask the vendor alongside the pub key - they have already paid anymore. So they can distribute

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 3:25pm on...: Modern == what has been widely deployed for 6+ years. Jeff, I totally agree. The problem is, for better or worse, there are plenty of large commercial vendors that are still providing software that's

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:06pm on...: Why lusers want to resign package they have not created in first place: if they want signed package, well, they have to ask the vendor alongside the pub key

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 3:25pm on...: Modern == what has been widely deployed for 6+ years. Jeff, I totally agree. The problem is, for better or worse, there are plenty of large commercial vendors

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:06pm > on...: > > Why lusers want to resign package they have not created in first place: if >> they want signed package, we

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:56pm on...: I can sign the document i wrote. I can sign document, written by other, on which i have control, can update, verify the quality or, almost, i have trust. If i have to sign document, which i have paid and not have

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, Jeff Johnson said (at 4:21pm on...: Why lusers want to resign package they have not created in first place: if they want signed package, well, they have to ask the vendor alongside the pub key - they have already paid anymore. So they can distribute

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jun 25, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:56pm on...: I can sign the document i wrote. I can sign document, written by other, on which i have control, can update, verify the quality or, almost, i have trust. If i

Re: rpm3 package still exist

2008-06-26 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In regard to: Re: rpm3 package still exist, devzero2000 said (at 10:56pm > on...: > > I can sign the document i wrote. I can sign document, written by other, on >> which i have control, can updat