Re: [rtl] Draft of ``Real Time and Embedded HOWTO''

2000-08-31 Thread yodaiken
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:53:42PM +0200, Bernhard Kuhn wrote: > 1) Please have a look at the MIPS-Port and uClinux > and don´t just discribe why x86-Linux isn´t > convenient for most embedded applications. x86 MiniRTL fits on a floppy and runs in 4Meg. > 3) uClinux just takes two seconds for bo

[rtl] DiskOnChip driver

2000-08-31 Thread Emeel
Thanks for your comments and advice. I am quoting these few lines from the README.TXT bundled with M-systems' DiskOnChip driver for Linux. /***/ WARNING --- During sustained writes to the DiskOnChip delays may occur in other processes. This can cause temporary

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread yodaiken
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:13:54PM -0400, Pierre Cloutier wrote: > I switched to RTAI many moons ago when I finally understood Victor's ego > was bigger than everest. Yet your website advertises a RTLinux project. How curious. In any event, despite my vast ego, I really would appreciate it if

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Pierre Cloutier
At 06:18 AM 31-08-00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:18:34AM +0100, Trevor Woolven wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I wasn't being critical just asking for information but I have to echo Stuart >> here, if you have some speed/determinism problems with Steve's pThre

OT: RE: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Stephen D. Cohen
Gang, This is horribly and completely off topic, but I simply can not resist. > However, the discussion reminds me of some other holy wars (KDE-GNOME; > NT-Linux; vi(m)-emacs; ...), which means that they focus on the > differences, instead of on the commonalities. I would say the current

Re: [rtl] Draft of ``Real Time and Embedded HOWTO''

2000-08-31 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Hi Herman! Overall, you did a good Job, but i strongly disagree with some statements in chapter 3.2: >>> The Linux kernel that supports a typical desktop computer is quickly more than 1 megabytes large. And that does not include the memory taken up by the Linux tools and the users' applicati

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread yodaiken
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 05:18:35PM +0200, Herman Bruyninckx wrote: > Another thing: if Victor is right about the fact that POSIX doesn't > specify which signals can or should be used, then (i) we cannot blame > him for using this option, (ii) the ``error'' lies with the POSIX This is not an error

RE: [rtl] Interrupt problems

2000-08-31 Thread Stephen D. Cohen
Jan, > I have a problem with an interrupt handler in RT Linux rtlinux30pre6c > running on a 2.2.17pre13 machine. You did not say how you came to have rtlinux30pre6c running on this version of the kernel. Did you download a pre-patched kernel, or was this a kernel you built yourself?

Re: [rtl] [insmod: unresolved symbol]

2000-08-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
Please post the "make" output. It seems like wrong compiler flags are used. Michael. Guo jin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello: > > I use insmod to install the module, expect the following error message: > > insmod pci_module > pci_module: unresolved symbol rtl_compat_irq_handler > pci_module

Re: [rtl] kernel vfat problems

2000-08-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
Have you enabled vfat support in the kernel? Michael. Paolo Meriggi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hallo all, > excuse me if I bore you, but I could not find any answer yet on the past > archive of this mailing list. Before using RTL I was working with > Mandrake 7.1 (kernel 2.2.15) and everything

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Herman Bruyninckx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ about RTLinux's POSIX compliance...] On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Paolo Mantegazza wrote: [ about RTAI's POSIX compliance...] > Apart from the fact that Steve's package cannot run with RTL, but only > with RTAI, from my limited tests experience with Steve's POSIX the above >

Re: [rtl] RTAI install

2000-08-31 Thread daniel sheltraw
>From: Paolo Mantegazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: daniel sheltraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [rtl] RTAI install >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:50:03 +0200 > >daniel sheltraw wrote: > > > > Hello RTAIers > > > > I finally got my new machine and I am ready to install the late

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Steve Papacharalambous
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:18:34AM +0100, Trevor Woolven wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wasn't being critical just asking for information but I have to echo Stuart > > here, if you have some speed/determinism problems with Steve's pThreads package > > then

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Stuart Hughes
Hi Victor, The package mentioned below is portable, it contains fifos and other IPC's, but is is not Steve's pthreads package. Regards, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 12:52:58PM +0200, Paolo Mantegazza wrote: > > Apart from the fact that Steve's package cannot ru

[rtl] Interrupt problems

2000-08-31 Thread Jan Albiez
Jo ! I have a problem with an interrupt handler in RT Linux rtlinux30pre6c running on a 2.2.17pre13 machine. I have a CAN card which is configured to create interrupts on line 7. I install a handler with a function like this: int CAN_Interrupt=7; int CanEnableInterrupt(unsigned int (*hand

[rtl] Newbee question(s)

2000-08-31 Thread Sepehr Kiani
Hi, I'm considering using RTLinux for a project I have going here and was looking for some advise. The system I'm developing has 24 (open-loop) analog outputs (12bit I think will do fine) and a high resolution camera. There will also be some assorted digital and maybe some additional analog IO's.

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread yodaiken
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 12:52:58PM +0200, Paolo Mantegazza wrote: > Apart from the fact that Steve's package cannot run with RTL, but only > with RTAI, from my limited tests experience with Steve's POSIX the above Stuart? | |From: Stuart Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Organization: zentropix

Re: [rtl] whorkshop

2000-08-31 Thread Herman Bruyninckx
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > there is a workshop in Orlando, but I have forgotten when. > Can anybody tell me agian when? > November 27-28, 2000, at Walt Disney World: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ph.D.)Fax: +32-(0)16-3

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Paolo Mantegazza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We follow POSIX PSE51 for reasons of simplicity, coherence, programmer > familiarity, and because there is a real standard, not a creature of > any company. POSIX is specified so that implementation extensions can > be accomodated. For example, to reserve a RTLinux onl

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread yodaiken
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:18:34AM +0100, Trevor Woolven wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wasn't being critical just asking for information but I have to echo Stuart > here, if you have some speed/determinism problems with Steve's pThreads package > then I'd like to take a look at them if you

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-08-31 Thread Trevor Woolven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:18:23PM +0100, Trevor Woolven wrote: > > BTW, can anyone *really* explain the point of non-portable extensions in a > > (supposedly) portable standard? I'm not saying they're wrong but they don't > > make sense (to me). > > We follow POSIX PSE

Re: [rtl] rtl from DiskOnChip

2000-08-31 Thread Trevor Woolven
Emeel wrote: > has anyone run rtl from a DiskOnChip Flash device? any comments Not yet but I've done it using RTAI, can't be any more difficult with RTL. > > references/ guidelines or How-to's on booting up this device as a > primary drive with rtl? > Depends on which DOC driver you want to us

R: [rtl] kernel vfat problems

2000-08-31 Thread Giovanni Racciu
Dear Paolo, did you configure the kernel to have the vfat option compiled with it (linked to the kernel image or as a module)? Ciao Giovanni - Original Message - From: Paolo Meriggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RTLinux mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:24 P

Re: [rtl] RTAI install

2000-08-31 Thread Paolo Mantegazza
daniel sheltraw wrote: > > Hello RTAIers > > I finally got my new machine and I am ready to install the latest > and greatest version of RTAI. I guess that would be RTAI 1.3. > I have RedHat Linux 6.1 on my system presently. I don't recall > which kernel version is in 6.1 (If you know please tel