[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-28 Thread Altair
I couldn't have said it better than Robert. On May 27, 11:11 am, Robert Walker wrote: > Phlip wrote: > >http://java.sys-con.com/node/965189 > > > I am certainly going back to Java, just as soon as I figure out how to > > configure > > Tomcat. > > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic?

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-28 Thread rgravina
On May 28, 2:11 am, Robert Walker wrote: > Phlip wrote: > >http://java.sys-con.com/node/965189 > > > I am certainly going back to Java, just as soon as I figure out how to > > configure > > Tomcat. > > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? Has anyone here used Java > > the way > > th

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Jack Bauer
So he compares OpenXava's database schema ability to Rails'. hand-coded SQL? What? I especially like this part: >@recipe.date = Time.now > >The equivalent in OX is adding the @DefaultValueCalculator annotation in model: > >@DefaultValueCalculator(CurrentDateCalculator.class) >private

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Robert Walker
Phlip wrote: > http://java.sys-con.com/node/965189 > > I am certainly going back to Java, just as soon as I figure out how to > configure > Tomcat. > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? Has anyone here used Java > the way > they say they should? Here is my biggest problem with th

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Phlip
Altair wrote: > This article seems to have very dated information (released May 16, > 2009? Is the writer using Internet Archive for his browsing?). I don't know enough Java to read the article, but at a guess the author is bragging about features that Rails inspired in a Java library... then

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Matt Jones
I saw that article a while back... the system described (OpenXava) looks great, as long as you want your site to look just like all the others created with that framework. Maybe my Java-acronym-parsing skills are rusty, but I couldn't find anything on the OpenXava wiki about theming, skinning, etc

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Altair
This article seems to have very dated information (released May 16, 2009? Is the writer using Internet Archive for his browsing?). Furthermore, the approach of (seemingly) only having control over the model seems ridiculous to me. The presented framework seems useful only for "throw-away" applica

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread César
I tried learn Java language. Five years ago I went to a Java course at a well known university here and it was so boring. In fact I enjoyed it cero minutes learning something about Java language, at point that I enjoyed much more to learn something about object techiques and that was the most exit

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Luke Pearce
Phlip wrote: > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? Actually I found the following statement about sums it up: "The productivity in Java world is a cultural problem, not a technical one. That is this is not a Java fault, it's our fault, we, the Java developers, need to design ver

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Jason Roelofs
So this guy's saying that using one library that someone has put a TON of effort in for scaffolding is better than using another library's scaffolding system? How is this Java vs Rails ( god what is with people and HORRIBLE comparisons. Language vs Library?!)? Java is Fail, it leads to people

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Phlip
Frederick Cheung wrote: > Some of the comments on rails are a bit out of date (ie the bit where > you have to write sql by hand rather than write a migration and having > to restart the server to pick up code changes.). You... you mean showing off you don't know enough about Rails to work with i

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Julian Leviston
On 27/05/2009, at 1:50 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote: > I like what he showed of the model-driven nature of OpenXava -- that > seems extremely cool (if it actually works). It's too bad that he > chose > to write the article as a dis to Rails (which he clearly doesn't > know a > damn thing ab

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-27 Thread Frederick Cheung
On May 27, 4:29 am, Phlip wrote: > http://java.sys-con.com/node/965189 > > I am certainly going back to Java, just as soon as I figure out how to > configure > Tomcat. > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? Has anyone here used Java the > way > they say they should? > Some of the

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-26 Thread PP Junty
Steve, you don't need to go too far, just take the subtitle and the very first sentence: "This article demonstrates that Java is more productive than Ruby" "This article tries to demonstrate that Java can be more productive than Ruby." -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~--

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-26 Thread Steve Hull
Phlip wrote: > it says right here! well if it said it on the interwebs, then it *must* be true. lol in all seriousness, take a look at first few paragraphs. there are an awful lot of qualifiers. ie, "this article *tries* to demonstrate"... "I prefer" comes up a lot... At the end of the day

[Rails] Re: Java kicks Rails's butt - it says right here!

2009-05-26 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Phlip wrote: > http://java.sys-con.com/node/965189 > > I am certainly going back to Java, just as soon as I figure out how to > configure > Tomcat. :) > > Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? Has anyone here used Java > the way > they say they should? I like what he showed of the