[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread boothby
Try alpha3, and ignore my last email. William and I have been re-working js.py quite a bit. As of alpha2, I think you needed to use ctrl-backspace to delete a cell. That didn't last long, and backspace is back in alpha3. Please tell me if you find otherwise. On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Robert Mil

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread Yi Qiang
Haha, yeah, it almost makes your solution look "simple" at this point. I filed a bug report in their trac. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:22 PM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 10, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Yi Qiang wrote: > > > I debugged this some more with Craig Citro and it turns ou

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread David Harvey
On Apr 10, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Yi Qiang wrote: > I debugged this some more with Craig Citro and it turns out it's a bug > in Colloquy itself. It seems that on Leopard system it links against > Python 2.3 by default. I've recompiled it so it links against Python > 2.5 if it exists and falls back to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread Robert Miller
On OSX 10.5/Firefox 2, I cannot delete cells in a notebook worksheet as of sage-3.0.alpha2. On Apr 9, 9:48 pm, "Justin C. Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:56 , mabshoff wrote: > > > On Apr 9, 8:40 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > dortmund.de> wrote: > > Can somebody o

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread Yi Qiang
I debugged this some more with Craig Citro and it turns out it's a bug in Colloquy itself. It seems that on Leopard system it links against Python 2.3 by default. I've recompiled it so it links against Python 2.5 if it exists and falls back to Python 2.3 if it does not (so it's still compatible on

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:56 , mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 9, 8:40 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > dortmund.de> wrote: > Can somebody on OSX 10.4 try the spkg at > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/SPKG/polybori-0.3.1.p0.spkg > You need to first install the updated linbox.spkg at > http:

[sage-devel] Re: should bool(x > 0) be False or an exception?

2008-04-09 Thread Carl Witty
On Apr 9, 8:16 pm, "didier deshommes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to reopen discussion of #2781, "bool() for SymbolicEquation > > should raise an error when it doesn't know the answer". Jason created > > a p

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
> I personally dislike the idea of extracting things as self-extracting   > executables, both because I don't think people should get in the   > habit of downloading and double-clicking on .exe files, and also   > because it means the VM-ware image can't be (easily) accessed from   > non-windows

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread shreevatsa
On Apr 9, 10:29 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > It is *341* MB vs. *601* MB, i.e. Winzip is 80% larger than 7z. If it > were 10% I couldn't care less. And an 80% size increase is something > that is noticeable at the end of the month. Bandwidth isn't free, in > the end somebo

[sage-devel] Re: should bool(x > 0) be False or an exception?

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Chiasson
Since x>=0 returns unevaluated, the problem seems like it is with the if statement, which is turning "maybe" into false. In Mathematica, the if statement would return unevaluated (for symbolic input into g). On Apr 9, 9:18 pm, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to reopen discussion

[sage-devel] Re: should bool(x > 0) be False or an exception?

2008-04-09 Thread didier deshommes
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to reopen discussion of #2781, "bool() for SymbolicEquation > should raise an error when it doesn't know the answer". Jason created > a prototype patch to implement this, but gave up on it and closed the > tic

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
Hi, I have no intention of starting a flame war either. :) > > Instead of switching to to Winzip I would much rather use the "Self- > > extracting capability for 7z format" of 7zip. Bandwidth is a finite > > resource and I am not convinced that using some crappy old compression > > technology i

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 9, 2008, at 5:18 PM, mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 10, 1:19 am, "Yi Qiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> William forgot to CC sage-devel. >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM >> Subject: Re: use zip instead

[sage-devel] should bool(x > 0) be False or an exception?

2008-04-09 Thread Carl Witty
I'd like to reopen discussion of #2781, "bool() for SymbolicEquation should raise an error when it doesn't know the answer". Jason created a prototype patch to implement this, but gave up on it and closed the ticket when he was convinced that "this is not pythonic". I like the "raise an exceptio

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread Justin C. Walker
Hi, Michael, On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:56 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > On Apr 9, 8:40 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] > > Can somebody on OSX 10.4 try the spkg at > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/SPKG/ > polybori-0.3.1.p0.spkg > You need to first install the updated linbox.spkg at >

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 10, 1:19 am, "Yi Qiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William forgot to CC sage-devel. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary > To: Yi

[sage-devel] Re: tick marks

2008-04-09 Thread gerhard
> I'm interested. I took the liberty to mail the boundle to your gmail address. What is the preferred way to submit a bundle? > It seems like it.   We should fix this.  Does your > bundle fix this? No, I did not want to modify the behaviour of the code... -gerhard --~--~-~--~~-

[sage-devel] Re: tick marks

2008-04-09 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM, gerhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * The _tasteful_ticks routine in axes.py that > implements 2D plot tick marks restricts the > range of values of the axis. > > Since I needed additional functionality, > I implemented a different version for my use. > I h

[sage-devel] Re: tick marks

2008-04-09 Thread gerhard
* The _tasteful_ticks routine in axes.py that implements 2D plot tick marks restricts the range of values of the axis. Since I needed additional functionality, I implemented a different version for my use. I have a mercurial bundle available if there is interest? * The actual bounds used for the

[sage-devel] Fwd Fan Mail

2008-04-09 Thread William Stein
-- Forwarded message -- From: Einar Steingrimsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:24 PM Subject: Thanks for Sage! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear William, I have been using Sage in the last couple of months, after having used mostly Mathematica for years. One of my c

[sage-devel] Fwd: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread Yi Qiang
William forgot to CC sage-devel. -- Forwarded message -- From: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM Subject: Re: use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary To: Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Yi Qiang <[

[sage-devel] use zip instead of 7zip for distributing the sage binary

2008-04-09 Thread Yi Qiang
Hi all, When creating binary releases for Sage in the future, could we please put out a release in the 'zip' format as well as '7z'? The success rate of installing Sage in my algebraic geometry class is incredibly low. Today 2 students told me they couldn't get Sage working on their Windows machi

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread Yi Qiang
Do you use Leopard? I don't know if pyobjc is distributed in pre 10.5. Any chance you've installed a different Python.framework other than what's shipped in /System/Library/Frameworks? On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:12 AM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yi, > > This sounds like a much b

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 9, 8:40 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > In other news: The world hates me. The latest PolyBoRi is borken on > OSX 10.4 - see #2865. It appears that stripping bundles on OSX 10.4 is > a bad thing. Since I wanted debugging support for PolyBoRi anyway I > will look int

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 9, 8:48 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > On Fedora 7, 32 bits: > > sage -t  devel/doc/prog/prog.tex > >           [3.6 s] > sage -t  devel/doc/const/const.tex > >           [27.6 s] > All tests passed! > Total time for all tests: 4129.4 seconds > [EMAIL PROT

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > here is alpha3. Loads of small fixes, a total of 141 tickets > have been closed for the 3.0 milestone so far. > > First the good news: > > The Fortran doctest issue has been fixed by Josh Kantor. > > Now the not so good news: > > Issue: Invalid read in libgr

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 9, 8:33 pm, Alex Ghitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Built fine and all tests passed on Great. > Linux sillyname 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 #2 SMP Tue Aug 28 23:46:12 UTC 2007 > i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread Alex Ghitza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Built fine and all tests passed on Linux sillyname 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 #2 SMP Tue Aug 28 23:46:12 UTC 2007 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Best, Alex mabshoff wrote: | Hello folks, | | here is alpha3. Loads of smal

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
+1 (on the error message) Kiran On Apr 9, 9:12 am, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yi, > > This sounds like a much better approach than what I did, but when I   > run that I get an error message about not being able to find the objc   > module? > > david > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 2:54 AM,

[sage-devel] Re: hyperlinks for Colloquy users

2008-04-09 Thread David Harvey
Yi, This sounds like a much better approach than what I did, but when I run that I get an error message about not being able to find the objc module? david On Apr 9, 2008, at 2:54 AM, Yi Qiang wrote: > > Hey, > I thought this was a great idea but I found the patching Colloquy > approach to

[sage-devel] Sage 3.0.alpha3 released

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, here is alpha3. Loads of small fixes, a total of 141 tickets have been closed for the 3.0 milestone so far. First the good news: The Fortran doctest issue has been fixed by Josh Kantor. Now the not so good news: Issue: Invalid read in libgroebner.so (#2822): No solution yet, vari

[sage-devel] Re: multivariate factoring - use maxima ?

2008-04-09 Thread parisse
On 8 avr, 21:25, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have added a benchmark link with Fermat gcd tests, giac seems 5 to > > 10 * faster than maxima. I don't have magma, it is most probably > > > another factor of 10 * faster. > > I think that comparison with Magma is a little optimi

[sage-devel] Re: latest version of doc-main

2008-04-09 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 9, 8:03 am, "Minh Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > Hi Minh, > >  I generally do not build the documentation in a release cycle until > >  were are getting close to the final release. This is mostly due to > >  sage.math not having all the needed bits in the LaTeX toolcha