[sage-devel] Re: remote-sagetex: SageTeX without Sage

2009-06-14 Thread Rob Beezer
Dan, I put this through its paces, though didn't really stress-test it. Just coincidentally, I used a machine without Sage, since it was the only place I could get at a Python that was at version 2.6. Once on sagenb.org, and several times on your server there at KAIST. Everything I tried worked

[sage-devel] LaTeX versions of (combinatorial) graphs

2009-06-14 Thread Rob Beezer
The tkz-graph package for LaTeX has many options for rendering a (combinatorial) graph. Version 4.0.2alpha of Sage will have support for selecting these options and creating LaTeX code for graphs - which can be used in your own documents, seen at the command line with view (), and displayed in th

[sage-devel] Re: div and curl

2009-06-14 Thread Nick Alexander
On 14-Jun-09, at 8:56 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > I care, I have written div and curl routines for my multivariable calc > classes before, but they were more hackish than yours. I will try to > review that ticket soon, if no one beats me to it. Unfo, it's definitely needs work -- it's just

[sage-devel] Re: polymake and other optional spkg

2009-06-14 Thread Marshall Hampton
I care about the polymake spkg, and I know a few users who do too. It would be nice to fix it; the last time I tried to install it I got some errors I didn't understand at all so I'm not sure what exactly the problem is. Its probably out of date anyway, so it might be best to start from scratch

[sage-devel] Re: div and curl

2009-06-14 Thread Marshall Hampton
I care, I have written div and curl routines for my multivariable calc classes before, but they were more hackish than yours. I will try to review that ticket soon, if no one beats me to it. -Marshall On Jun 14, 4:06 pm, Nick Alexander wrote: > I have no idea if this is already done or anybody

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Clemesha
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:36 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote:

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:36 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: Hi, > > Just set it up on the google app eng

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jun 14, 12:38 pm, Burcin Erocal wrote: > Hi again, > > There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial derivatives > in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. The > previous thread is here: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/74

[sage-devel] div and curl

2009-06-14 Thread Nick Alexander
I have no idea if this is already done or anybody cares, but here's a quick and dirty implementation of div and curl in 3 dimensions: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3021 If someone cares to make the variable handling more clever, I'd be pleased to have it merged. Nick --~--~

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread Nick Alexander
> Personally, I prefer the Mathematica notation because I can actually > read it. I have (serious!) trouble reading the current notation that > Sage uses and I can barely read the Maple notation either. With the > Mathematica notation it is totally completely obvious to me what is > going on. +

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial derivatives > in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. I am afraid, we might never reach a conclusion in this regard :-) It seems to be a classic case wh

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dr. David >> Kirkby wrote: >>> In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which >>> I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've >>> submi

[sage-devel] Re: polymake and other optional spkg

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM, maxthemouse wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 3:57 pm, William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In case anybody cares about the optional Sage polymake spkg, I've >> moved it from optional to experimental, since it doesn't work at all. >>  See below.    Also, note that the fricas

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Just set it up on the google app engine itself, then people can play with it. >>> >>> Ok, it's u

[sage-devel] Re: arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Craig Citro wrote: > > My vote is for arcsin. > +1 >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 >> > > +1 +1 (sorry, couldn't resist). And I have no idea why we used sin^(-1)(x) before. Not even Maxima does that by default: (%i5) asin(sin(x)); (%o5)

[sage-devel] Re: arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread Craig Citro
My vote is for arcsin. >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 > > +1 > +1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit t

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> >>> Just set it up on the google app engine itself, then people can play with >>> it. >> >> Ok, it's up: >> http://live.codenode.org >> >> The backend "kernel" is complet

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > Excellent! > > Once/if you get Sage running on it, will students of mine (<100 total) > be able to use it > and share their assignments with me? You can't run Sage on the Google Ap Engine. William > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM, A

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:45 PM, John Cremona wrote: > > 2009/6/14 Burcin Erocal : >> >> Hi again, >> >> There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial derivatives >> in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. The >> previous thread is here: >> >> http://groups.g

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread David Joyner
Excellent! Once/if you get Sage running on it, will students of mine (<100 total) be able to use it and share their assignments with me? On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: > > Hi, > >> >> Just set it up on the google app engine itself, then people can play with it. > > Ok, it

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:45:11 +0100 John Cremona wrote: > > 2009/6/14 Burcin Erocal : > > > > Here is what MMA does: > > > > In[1]:= D[F[x], x] > > > > Out[1]= F'[x] > > > > In[2]:= TeXForm[%] > > > > Out[2]//TeXForm= F'(x) > > > > In[3]:= D[F[x], x, x, x, x, x] > > > >         (5) > > Out[3]=

[sage-devel] Re: arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread Nick Alexander
>>> My vote is for arcsin. >>> >> >> +1 > > +1 +1 Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread Tim Lahey
On Jun 14, 2009, at 3:45 PM, John Cremona wrote: > > 2009/6/14 Burcin Erocal : >> >> Hi again, >> >> There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial >> derivatives >> in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. The >> previous thread is here: >> >> http://group

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: > > Hi, > >> >> Just set it up on the google app engine itself, then people can play with it. > > Ok, it's up: > http://live.codenode.org > > The backend "kernel" is completely running on google app engine, > (that is to say, all abitrary code

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread John Cremona
2009/6/14 Burcin Erocal : > > Hi again, > > There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial derivatives > in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. The > previous thread is here: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7479c3eeb96348a2

[sage-devel] Re: notebook on the app engine

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Clemesha
Hi, > > Just set it up on the google app engine itself, then people can play with it. Ok, it's up: http://live.codenode.org The backend "kernel" is completely running on google app engine, (that is to say, all abitrary code executing is in the hands of google, not us, which is a wonderful thing

[sage-devel] typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi again, There were long discussion about the typesetting of partial derivatives in the new system, but I don't think we got to a conclusion yet. The previous thread is here: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7479c3eeb96348a2 I agree that this is annoying and triv

[sage-devel] Re: arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread John Cremona
2009/6/14 Tim Lahey : > > > On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> With the switch to pynac, the way we typeset arcsin and friends >> changed. >> >> sage: version() >> 'Sage Version 4.0.1, Release Date: 2009-06-06' >> sage: latex(arcsin(x)) >> \arcsin\left(x\right) >>

[sage-devel] Re: arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread Tim Lahey
On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > Hi, > > With the switch to pynac, the way we typeset arcsin and friends > changed. > > sage: version() > 'Sage Version 4.0.1, Release Date: 2009-06-06' > sage: latex(arcsin(x)) > \arcsin\left(x\right) > > as opposed to: > > sage: version()

[sage-devel] arcsin or sin^{-1}

2009-06-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, With the switch to pynac, the way we typeset arcsin and friends changed. sage: version() 'Sage Version 4.0.1, Release Date: 2009-06-06' sage: latex(arcsin(x)) \arcsin\left(x\right) as opposed to: sage: version() 'Sage Version 3.4.2, Release Date: 2009-05-05' sage: latex(arcsin(x)) \sin^{-1

[sage-devel] Re: polymake and other optional spkg

2009-06-14 Thread maxthemouse
On Jun 14, 3:57 pm, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > In case anybody cares about the optional Sage polymake spkg, I've > moved it from optional to experimental, since it doesn't work at all. >  See below.    Also, note that the fricas spkg no longer works (unless > the user has clisp systemwide)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: >> In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which >> I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've >> submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information is provided than

[sage-devel] polymake and other optional spkg

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
Hi, In case anybody cares about the optional Sage polymake spkg, I've moved it from optional to experimental, since it doesn't work at all. See below.Also, note that the fricas spkg no longer works (unless the user has clisp systemwide) because we switched to ECL for our lisp. I've tested a

[sage-devel] Re: Stochastic matrices and Markov processes

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Vincent Delecroix<20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > It seems that SAGE does not yet have an implementation for modeling > stochastic matrices and Markov processes. Am I right ? Is there a > possible SAGE extension which can do that ? Does anybody plann

[sage-devel] Stochastic matrices and Markov processes

2009-06-14 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hi, It seems that SAGE does not yet have an implementation for modeling stochastic matrices and Markov processes. Am I right ? Is there a possible SAGE extension which can do that ? Does anybody planned to work on it ? Cheers, Vincent --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post

[sage-devel] Re: Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: >> >> I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with >> things like >> >> $ make -j 10 >> >> will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which > I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've > submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information is provided than > here. > > Essentially th

[sage-devel] Re: atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > The fix suggested by Clint to allow ATLAS to build (namely making > GuessSmallNB return 28) does indeed allow ATLAS to build. > > I could crate a patch file for that, which is only applied on Solaris, > but clearly this is not a long-te

[sage-devel] Re: Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dr. David >> Kirkby wrote: >>> I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with >>> things like >>> >>> $ make -j 10 >>> >>> will often break them, so I tend

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread Craig Citro
Hi David, > atlas-3.8.3.p2 (needed hack suggested by ATLAS developer) > > Note blas is not in that list. But linbox is trying to build, which > claims to need blas > Actually, isn't ATLAS providing our BLAS? So maybe somehow the linbox script can't find it after whatever changes were made to the

[sage-devel] Re: I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > 2009/6/13 Dr. David Kirkby : >> What's the process of marking this as to need a review, and to find a >> reviewer? > > Just put > > "[with patch; needs review]" I've done that. I thought I'd repost the link, then made a mess of the link, as I gave it to one file, not a d

[sage-devel] Re: atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The fix suggested by Clint to allow ATLAS to build (namely making GuessSmallNB return 28) does indeed allow ATLAS to build. I could crate a patch file for that, which is only applied on Solaris, but clearly this is not a long-term solution, as I assume it will degrade performance on Solaris.

[sage-devel] Re: Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: >> I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with >> things like >> >> $ make -j 10 >> >> will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, and >> does work in some cases, but i

[sage-devel] Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information is provided than here. Essentially the following packages are now installed on my attempts at building

[sage-devel] Re: Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with > things like > > $ make -j 10 > > will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, and > does work in some cases, but in others one just ends up with

[sage-devel] Re: gp2c and #258

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Nick Alexander wrote: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/258 is a very old ticket > dealing with gp2c.  It had positive review for a year.  I think it is > wontfix.  Could others please weigh in? > I've posted a comment, then closed as wontfix. William

[sage-devel] Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with things like $ make -j 10 will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, and does work in some cases, but in others one just ends up with a mess. But Sage is a big program, and takes a *long* time to compi

[sage-devel] Re: Determining platform when building an spkg

2009-06-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Stephen Hartke wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:13 AM, William Stein wrote: >> >> 2009/6/12 Stephen Hartke : >> > What is the recommended way of determining which platform Sage is >> > running on? >> >> Look at the output of the uname command.  You can find exam