[sage-combinat-devel] Categories review: the last ones?

2009-10-28 Thread javier
Hi there, I have been reviewing the last categories I had assigned. Here some comments ordered_sets.py Partially ordered or totally ordered? Why not to call it the appropriate way then? quotient_fields.py OK. Remove the # TODO: Algebras(R) right_modules.py -31 sage:

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Thierry Dumont
Jason Grout a écrit : ... - algorithm='scipy' -- call the scipy numerical integration routines (maybe make this the default if it is faster than gsl). .. I do not think that this is the only criterion... How do these methods compare from the numerical point of view? Making a

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Jason Grout
Thierry Dumont wrote: Jason Grout a écrit : ... - algorithm='scipy' -- call the scipy numerical integration routines (maybe make this the default if it is faster than gsl). .. I do not think that this is the only criterion... How do these methods compare from the numerical

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Thierry Dumont
Jason Grout a écrit : Thierry Dumont wrote: Jason Grout a écrit : ... - algorithm='scipy' -- call the scipy numerical integration routines (maybe make this the default if it is faster than gsl). .. I do not think that this is the only criterion... How do these methods compare

[sage-devel] Re: A question about the zero-th betti number computation with Sage

2009-10-28 Thread Philippe Saade
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: You can find suggested fixes here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ ticket/7323  John Hi John. Thanks for the patch ! I have an account on trac so i could review it but it would make a cyclic reference...

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: I'd appreciate if those people on this list who have different hardware or software (OSX, Solaris, PPC, Sparc) could compile the program and report back whether the program reports correct sizes for them. To

[sage-devel] One Cell Mode and HTML Cells.

2009-10-28 Thread Philippe Saade
I am using version 4.1.2 of Sage with Iceweasel. If I add HTML Cells in a document and switch to One Cell Mode, then HTML Cells stay for ever in an increasing stack position, as I pass them That is, if I have -- HTML-Cell-1 Sage-Cell-1 HTML-Cell-2 Sage-Cell-2

[sage-devel] Re: One Cell Mode and HTML Cells.

2009-10-28 Thread mhampton
I'm not seeing this behavior, which I think would be a bug. I am seeing html displayed as the first cell if it precedes all the sage cells, but it does not persist. Later html cells aren't showing up at all for me in one-cell mode with 4.1.2. Can you post a link to your worksheet, or one like

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
Laptop: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5300 @ 1.73GHz 8 0.023 7.611 16 0.046 2.018 32 0.093 2.034 64 0.289 3.097 128 0.641 2.216 256 0.744 1.160 512 1.542 2.073 1024 3.394 2.202 2048 7.826 2.305 4096

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread mhampton
I have a core 2 duo, 32k L1 on each, 3 MB L2, from the sage install this agrees: sage-4.2: grep cache size install.log checking the L1 cache size... 32768 Bytes checking the L2 cache size... 3145728 Bytes and: ./cache 8 0.017 1.877 16 0.024 1.353 32 0.045 1.911

[sage-devel] Re: One Cell Mode and HTML Cells.

2009-10-28 Thread Philippe Saade
Hi Marshall. I have just created an account on http://www.sagenb.org/ and I have published a worksheet that shows (for me, on Iceweasel, Debian Squeeze) the bug. The reference that sagenb gave me is : http://:8000/home/pub/870 (by the way, i think this is wrong because the host part is missing

[sage-devel] why do trac users have the power to close tickets?

2009-10-28 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I notice that people recently have been closing tickets, and those people are not release managers. In some cases, a regular user closed a ticket and then afterwards reopened the ticket. I think the Developers' Guide [1] clearly states that only release managers are to close tickets.

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread mhampton
Maybe a more interesting machine: Dual-Core Intel Xeon with a total of 4 cores, 32K of L1 cache, 4MB L2 cache per core. ./cache 8 0.010 2.045 16 0.019 2.000 32 0.041 2.084 64 0.096 2.368 128 0.336 3.491 256 0.790 2.352 512

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-28 Thread Maurizio
I have not taken any offense, on the contrary! Thank you very much for your detailed answer. Maurizio On Oct 27, 10:41 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: What about adopting a simpler strategy? What do you

[sage-devel] is there still a usable /scratch filesystem on bsd.math?

2009-10-28 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Upon logging into bsd.math, I navigated to /scratch but received the following: {{{ [mv...@bsd ~]$ cd /scratch -bash: cd: /scratch: No such file or directory }}} The output of df shows that the local disk is near capacity: {{{ [mv...@bsd ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread mhampton
OK, one more. This might be interesting or amusing - I am running your cache program with the virtualbox image of sage-4.1.2. Timings were somewhat inconsistent, probably because I was doing other tasks the first time I ran it. Second time it gave better results: 8 0.032 3.071

[sage-devel] Re: Doc of plot3d and a possible bug

2009-10-28 Thread Philippe Saade
Sorry fot that mail : it works in 4.1.2 but not in 4.1 I was on the wrong server... Phil On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Philippe Saade psa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. This works : var('u, v') h = lambda u,v: u^2 + 2*v^2 G = plot3d(h, (-1,1), (-1,1)) G.show() This does not work :

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: What about adopting a simpler strategy? What do you think about this: every 6 months (or 9, or 12 whatever), the developers are asked to focus on producing bugfixing instead of introducing new

[sage-devel] Re: A question about the zero-th betti number computation with Sage

2009-10-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 28, 2:08 am, Philippe Saade psa...@gmai l.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: You can find suggested fixes here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ ticket/7323  John Hi John. Thanks for the patch ! I have an account

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Thierry Dumont
I have looked at the quadrature routines: -in gsl: it seems that qags routine is called: this is a sophisticated procedure with step adaptation, and convergence acceleration with the epsilon-algorithm. This should integrate some singular functions and discontinuous functions. -in scipy: things

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Martin Albrecht wrote: Hi there, in the thread http://is.gd/4EMT8 David and I agreed that M4RI should have a better, more robust and cross- platform mechanism to check for cache sizes. Thus I wrote a little C program to check for the cache size using timings of random-ish

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Jason Grout
Thierry Dumont wrote: I have looked at the quadrature routines: -in gsl: it seems that qags routine is called: this is a sophisticated procedure with step adaptation, and convergence acceleration with the epsilon-algorithm. This should integrate some singular functions and discontinuous

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Albrecht
It would appear this cache program is not particularly good at guess cache sizes, but what is probably more important is that it is able to optimise the code so it works best on a particular processor. It is pretty irrelevant what it thinks that processor may or may not be. It's more

[sage-devel] Re: cache sizes

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Martin Albrecht wrote: It would appear this cache program is not particularly good at guess cache sizes, but what is probably more important is that it is able to optimise the code so it works best on a particular processor. It is pretty irrelevant what it thinks that processor may or may

[sage-devel] Re: is there still a usable /scratch filesystem on bsd.math?

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Upon logging into bsd.math, I navigated to /scratch but received the following: {{{ [mv...@bsd ~]$ cd /scratch -bash: cd: /scratch: No such file or directory }}} The output of df shows that the local

[sage-devel] Re: One Cell Mode and HTML Cells.

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:24 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing this behavior, which I think would be a bug.  I am One cell mode was implemented by Tom Boothby two notebooks ago, long before there *were* text cells. It has never been updated to account for them. I did

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread ggrafendorfer
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. ... and confusing because tab completion always pulls up both commands, and the instant question is, there must be some difference between these; which one is right for me? You are perfectly right, this is just confusing

[sage-devel] Smartly reconstructing series in Sage

2009-10-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody I am once more sending a draft of an idea to sage-devel, counting on your wealth of knowledge to tell me whether this idea is good/bad/already implemented or if some of you could be interested in helping me sorting this out :-) Recently, I had to work on polynomial

[sage-devel] Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, Currently when I try to build Maxima with ECL on Cygwin, I get the following error: ... Summary: ECL enabled. Executable name: ecl default lisp: ecl wish executable name: wish Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
(And, as usual Juan Jose or Robert Dodier -- if either you would like easy ssh access to a Cygwin Windows box to debug this, I can make you accounts.) On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Mike Hansen mhan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Currently when I try to build Maxima with ECL on Cygwin, I get

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Rubey
Mike Hansen mhan...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Currently when I try to build Maxima with ECL on Cygwin, I get the following error: it is the same error with FriCAS. ECL cannot compile-file on cygwin :-( would be nice indeed. Martin ecl -norc -eval '(progn (load

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Martin Rubey wrote: Mike Hansen mhan...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Currently when I try to build Maxima with ECL on Cygwin, I get the following error: it is the same error with FriCAS. ECL cannot compile-file on cygwin :-( would be nice indeed. Martin ecl -norc -eval '(progn

Re: [Ecls-list] [sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
This problem is trivial and does not have to do with cygwin. Just edit the file src/c/Makefile.in and remove the lines beginning with # Seems HP-UX is not really POSIX compatible. Juanjo On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Martin Rubey wrote: Mike

Re: [Ecls-list] [sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
The fix for this particular problem with HP-UX make is in the repository (GIT/CVS). Juanjo On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll juanjose.garciarip...@googlemail.com wrote: This problem is trivial and does not have to do with cygwin. Just edit the file src/c/Makefile.in and

[sage-devel] Re: numerical integration

2009-10-28 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 at 04:40PM +0100, Thierry Dumont wrote: I have looked at the quadrature routines: -in gsl: it seems that qags routine is called: this is a sophisticated procedure with step adaptation, and convergence acceleration with the epsilon-algorithm. This should integrate some

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Categories review: the last ones?

2009-10-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Javier, dear all, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:44:33AM -0700, javier wrote: I have been reviewing the last categories I had assigned. Here some comments Yippee! ordered_sets.py Partially ordered or totally ordered? Why not to call it the appropriate way then? Again,

[sage-devel] Vote on PIL dependencies -- libjpeg, libtiff

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
As stated in http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7273, PIL has dependencies on libtiff and libjpeg that can break the build. There are several options: (1) PIL can be crippled -- have libtiff and libjpeg disabled even if the local system has them, (2) libtiff and libjpeg be included as

[sage-devel] Re: Vote on PIL dependencies -- libjpeg, libtiff

2009-10-28 Thread mhampton
While I personally tend to want more things standard in sage, I realize that's related to the fact that I've never really tried to help port sage to things like Windows and Solaris. I think to be consistent we would need to have libtiff and libjpeg as optional packages for a while, and make them

[sage-devel] Re: new virtualbox image!

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to get virtualbox 3.0.8 to work on my mac.  Things work fine on my windows machine, I did a small test by adding the new biopython optional package and that worked well.  I am curious if anyone else can get

[sage-devel] Re: new virtualbox image!

2009-10-28 Thread Bill Page
William, Marshall, Have you tried recompiling the Virtualbox kernel headers? $ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup It also reloads the kernel module. I suppose that reasonably you should not have to do this immediately after an install but perhaps the install misses something subtle about the

[sage-devel] Re: new virtualbox image!

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: William, Marshall, Have you tried recompiling the Virtualbox kernel headers?  $ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup It also reloads the kernel module. I suppose that reasonably you should not have to do this

Re: [Ecls-list] [sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll juanjose.garciarip...@googlemail.com wrote: The fix for this particular problem with HP-UX make is in the repository (GIT/CVS). Any thoughts on the original LOAD: Could not load file

[sage-devel] freshmeat

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
Hi, It would be cool if somebody could figure out how to update this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/sage It lists Sage's last update as January 2007. -- William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org

[sage-devel] Re: freshmeat

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
I think you need to request ownership of the project -- link at right side of page. - Tim Joseph Dumol tim (at) timdumol (dot) com On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It would be cool if somebody could figure out how to update this:

[sage-devel] Re: freshmeat

2009-10-28 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: I think you need to request ownership of the project -- link at right side of page. The actual owner -- Timothy Clemans -- regularly reads this list. Tim -- can you somehow make it so other people can update the Sage