Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Anne Schilling
On 1/29/11 2:13 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 05:11:13AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: Following your suggestions I uploaded a new patch which addresses the issues of representation and latex methods for spin crystals. They now have a new method _repr_ using the signature

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 02:21:14AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: How quickly could you get the graphs_color_by_label-nt.patch polished and merged? In principle, it should be just an hour or two of work. So it's all about prioritizing it with the rest of the backlog. In other words: adding a

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Anne Schilling
On 2/1/11 4:02 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 02:21:14AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: How quickly could you get the graphs_color_by_label-nt.patch polished and merged? In principle, it should be just an hour or two of work. So it's all about prioritizing it with the rest

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 04:31:03AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: Could you open a trac ticket for it so I can refer to it? Done: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10723 Cheers, Nicolas -- Nicolas M. Thiéry Isil nthi...@users.sf.net

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Anne Schilling
On 2/1/11 5:00 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 04:31:03AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: Could you open a trac ticket for it so I can refer to it? Done: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10723 Thank you. Does your patch depend on other patches in the sage-combinat

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 06:50:53AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: Thank you. Does your patch depend on other patches in the sage-combinat queue? I think the answer is yes, since moving it in the series file to before the crystal patches gives an error. Which ones? Would you include them into

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: tickets 10632 and 10485

2011-02-01 Thread Anne Schilling
On 2/1/11 8:42 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 06:50:53AM -0800, Anne Schilling wrote: Thank you. Does your patch depend on other patches in the sage-combinat queue? I think the answer is yes, since moving it in the series file to before the crystal patches gives an error.

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread luisfe
On Feb 1, 3:41 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 01/30/11 03:27 PM, Jonathan wrote: Put another way, there should be a discussion about what Sage needs, how urgent it is, and a plan drawn up. I thought porting Sage to Windows via Cygwin was seen as important, as it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread David Roe
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 03:27, luisfe lftab...@yahoo.es wrote: On Feb 1, 3:41 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 01/30/11 03:27 PM, Jonathan wrote: Put another way, there should be a discussion about what Sage needs, how urgent it is, and a plan drawn up. I thought

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Volker Braun
While I use Sage daily on my research I decided that I could not use sage on my classes for freshmen students until it works on windows. Showing your students that there is more to computing than the Xbox ecosystem is more important than Sage or undergrad calculus or whatever your freshman

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Emil Widmann
While I use Sage daily on my research I decided that I could not use sage on my classes for freshmen students until it works on windows. I am curious, why is using the virtual machine image not feasable? On new computers it should run with acceptable speed. In classroom it should be even

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 2:27 AM, luisfe wrote: I would like to introduce someone to Sage, but I'm wasting my time if she needs to learn Linux, Solaris, or buy a Mac first. So I'm suggesting she use Mathematica on Windows. As much as I don't like that idea, I don't feel able to recommend Sage. If there was a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/ 1/11 08:50 AM, David Roe wrote: I think most people agree that a Windows port is important. But there's no plan for Sage, which sets out priorities and reasonable estimates of time. But it still hasn't happened. My impression is that the reasons for that are primarily that it's 1)

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 8:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: We should also have status reports. See for example some of the archived FreeBSD status reports. http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2009-04-2009-09.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-10-2008-12.html

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi Volker, On Feb 1, 12:15 pm, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Upon a closer look at the symmetrica spkg I noticed a lot of other oddities. Particularly ironic is the fact that the binary that fails to link on your machine is actually not used. I've updated my spkg

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Volker Braun
Delete any cached symmetrica spkg from $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/optional/symmetrica*.spkg if it exists and then sage -f http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spkg/symmetrica-2.0.p6.spkg -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I don't know how hard it is, but I got the impression from William only a few months back that it did not need a lot of work. But I've come very suspicious about time estimates from many Sage developers. I don't

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread rjf
On Jan 31, 4:26 am, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 1/29/11 9:52 AM, rjf wrote: Even assuming that the junk-submitter takes no time at all from project management on the front end, the need to review contributions is certainly a drain.  Realizing, and then explaining

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:53 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: William Stein, for example,  says His [RJF's] experience is not based on him actually successfully having led any nontrivial open source software development projects.  He has no credentials at all there, as far as I know.   Yet, he

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 02/ 1/11 08:50 AM, David Roe wrote: Some of the problems seem to be firmly in the hands of people who have written code in the Sage library, which simply does not work properly on Cygwin. They should be able to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby  * No documented plan  * No real documented estimates of time scales  * No status reports for the project as a whole. If you think a plan as you describe it for overall Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread daly
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 08:40 -0800, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby * No documented plan * No real documented estimates of time scales * No status reports for the project as a

[sage-devel] review ot ticket #10720

2011-02-01 Thread mario
Hi, in ticket #10720 nth_root for power series is added; two bugs in sqrt are pointed out; reviews are appreciated. Thanks Mario -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

[sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-01 Thread jtyard
Thanks Georg, Before I posted my question, I had tried an earlier build with SAGE64=yes, but (of course) that didn't work and I received the same error that I posted. Then I had set SAGE64=no, tried again and got the same error. I then ran make clean and got the same error. I even rebooted and

[sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-01 Thread jtyard
Dima, It looks like it is getting set pretty early, so I'm just posting here the beginning of the install.log, rather than the whole huge file. But it sounds to me that somehow the problem is that make clean leaves too much behind. For instance, it seems to want to start building r right away,

[sage-devel] ANN: mpmath 0.17 (Python 3 support and more)

2011-02-01 Thread Fredrik Johansson
Hi all, Version 0.17 of mpmath is now available on the project website: http://code.google.com/p/mpmath/ It can also be downloaded from the Python Package Index: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mpmath/0.17 Mpmath is a pure-Python library for arbitrary-precision floating-point arithmetic that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Paul Leopardi
OK. Your revised spkg builds and install correctly now, as far as I can tell. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread rjf
On Feb 1, 8:22 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: .. Some history.. http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Twenty_Years_of_Berkeley_Unix:_From_A... According to that page you were one of 14 people who co-authored a grant.. I was the principal investigator for the grant, and wrote the

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread kcrisman
I respectfully submit that this part of the discussion should move to sage-flame. Incidentally, the title of the thread is very relevant to the Cygwin port. I would say that there are *lots* of people who would like it, but the intersection of that set and those with the relevant (extremely

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 5:12 PM, kcrisman wrote: Maybe a few of us should get together and offer a bounty... Or write a grant! Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Eviatar
This is a very interesting idea. I was too thinking about a way to easily implement Sage interacts into webpages. I believe this could be a very useful feature; imagine giving the viewers of your page easy access to the full power of Sage! Not only would it be easy to implement mathematical

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Eviatar
Firefox, OpenOffice and FreeBSD are all successful open-source projects, but have a documented plans with at least projected time scales. If dates are regularly missed, then one needs to determine if they were unrealistic, and so allow more time for future plans. IMHO, Sage lacks a real

[sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi William and others, what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found some commits like: http://code.google.com/p/purplesage/source/detail?r=2ebfec09070b4a9a549c2a51e8e9dcde9a832925# I am thinking how to best store

Re: [sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi William and others, what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found some commits like:

Re: [sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:07 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi William and others, what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found