[sage-devel] Math typesetting for inputs in the notebook

2012-03-17 Thread Yukun
Hi all, I'm a 1st year CS student interested in doing a GSoC project this summer. I played around with the Sage notebook, and I think it would be convenient if math typesetting is available for input (like in mathematica), as it'll make it much easier to input long and complicated functions. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:48:48 UTC+8, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > > On Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:14:17 PM UTC+1, Jeh Agarwal wrote: >> >> thats great! everything can be packed then..but will an app that heavy be >> acceptable??? >> > > well, why not. But regardless of that, you would still e

[sage-devel] Re: Making simplification safe

2012-03-17 Thread kcrisman
For more discussion of nearly exactly this same issue in Maxima itself, see the thread of which http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2012/028130.html is representative. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Eviatar
@Jonathan Thank you for the ideas. I had previously just implemented it by copying the current NIST values (the same way SciPy does it), but an automatic update would be good. What would be a good way to store a cache? Maybe in a separate text file as a Python dictionary? This would save the tr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > Just to rephrase things, there should be > a) a new ring analogous to RIF that does error propagation (instead of > interval arithmetic) > b) the elements of this ring should have units attached and check that they > match in ring operations

[sage-devel] Re: distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Mike Hansen writes: > There is a patch at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12659 > which builds the Sage library in place just using distutils. Yup, I'm subscribed to the ticket :) I just found out about distutils2 and thought I'd mention it here. -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM, David Roe wrote: > That sounds really useful actually.  I still don't think it's enough for a > GSOC project; is there something related we could add? > David This sounds like arithmetic with *random variables*, which is something a probabilistic should implement

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Igor Deryabin
Okay, but what's the practical using? суббота, 17 марта 2012 г. 21:09:55 UTC+3 пользователь William написал: > > 2012/3/17 Igor Deryabin : > > Yes, it's back. > > I have a question: why is the HTML there in the list of > > languages? > > Because HTML is a language. > > > http://ybex.com/d/xx2ckemr

[sage-devel] Re: new list?

2012-03-17 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, I've created https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-gsoc H On Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:58:10 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > > Would anyone else like to see all this google stuff moved to a > different mailing list? > > John > -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread William Stein
2012/3/17 Igor Deryabin : > Yes, it's back. > I have a question: why is the HTML there in the list of > languages? Because HTML is a language. > http://ybex.com/d/xx2ckemr2eow7vvfiihaql5udutpa6gzd1t02pg9.html > It doesn't understand styling, by the way :) > > суббота, 17 марта 2012 г. 17:11:19 UT

Re: [sage-devel] new list?

2012-03-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:58 AM, John Cremona wrote: > Would anyone else like to see all this google stuff moved to a > different mailing list? YES! > > John > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-d

[sage-devel] Mathematical Function Library [GSoC 2012]

2012-03-17 Thread Croitoru Dan
Hello, I'm a second year Computer Science student. I'm interested in "Mathematical Function Library" project idea, because it corresponds to the requirements, except cython . Where can I look up for already implemented functions, or a list of them. Is there a to-do list of functions which to be imp

[sage-devel] new list?

2012-03-17 Thread John Cremona
Would anyone else like to see all this google stuff moved to a different mailing list? John -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Hansen
There is a patch at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12659 which builds the Sage library in place just using distutils. --Mike On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Hmm. What is this? http://stackoverflow.com/a/6522905 Maybe it's worth > looking into using this new thin

[sage-devel] Re: distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Hmm. What is this? http://stackoverflow.com/a/6522905 Maybe it's worth looking into using this new thing? -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+u

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Igor Deryabin
Yes, it's back. I have a question: why is the HTML there in the list of languages? http://ybex.com/d/xx2ckemr2eow7vvfiihaql5udutpa6gzd1t02pg9.html It doesn't understand styling, by the way :) суббота, 17 марта 2012 г. 17:11:19 UTC+3 пользователь Keshav Kini написал: > > Igor Deryabin writes: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread David Roe
That sounds really useful actually. I still don't think it's enough for a GSOC project; is there something related we could add? David On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:23, Volker Braun wrote: > Just to rephrase things, there should be > a) a new ring analogous to RIF that does error propagation (inst

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le samedi 17 mars, Harald Schilly a écrit: > > > On Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:14:17 PM UTC+1, Jeh Agarwal wrote: > > > > thats great! everything can be packed then..but will an app that > > heavy be acceptable??? > > > > well, why not. But regardless of that, you would still either have a > cl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:14:17 PM UTC+1, Jeh Agarwal wrote: > > thats great! everything can be packed then..but will an app that heavy be > acceptable??? > well, why not. But regardless of that, you would still either have a clumsy command-line or the full blown notebook in your tiny web

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Jeh Agarwal
thats great! everything can be packed then..but will an app that heavy be acceptable??? On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > Yes, Android ARM ( != Linux ARM) > > On the plus side, Google recently increased the maximum app size to 4GB so > at least we would be able to pack every

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Volker Braun
Yes, Android ARM ( != Linux ARM) On the plus side, Google recently increased the maximum app size to 4GB so at least we would be able to pack everything into an apk ;-) -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sag

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Volker Braun
Just to rephrase things, there should be a) a new ring analogous to RIF that does error propagation (instead of interval arithmetic) b) the elements of this ring should have units attached and check that they match in ring operations On Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:45:58 AM UTC-4, Keshav Kini wro

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Igor Deryabin writes: > The server is down now, by the way :) Is it back? It seems to be up for me (if you mean http://sagenb.org/ ). -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Keshav Kini writes: > Jonathan writes: > Is this sufficient for your purposes? You could store a Gaussian > distribution with mean m and standard deviation s as RIF(m-s, m+s), say. Wait, what am I saying... of course standard deviation doesn't behave in the same way as Real Interval bounds when

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Jonathan writes: > As a scientist who would actually use this for research if it worked well, I > have some thoughts. The thing that would make me use this instead of my > personally maintained list of constants is if there were a command to update > the constants automagically from the NIST datab

[sage-devel] Re: Basing new development versions of Sage on the previous development version

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Jeroen Demeyer writes: > On 2012-03-16 14:01, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: >> For the same reason you started releasing 5.0 prealphas while >> finishing up 4.8. It makes sense to continue working on closing >> various fixes + improvements/features, but you shouldn't be doing this >> to code that is bein

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Keshav Kini
Igor Deryabin writes: > Yes, I've already registered and created a worksheet. > Sage Notebook looks like similar to Wolfram Mathematica :) > Where can I join the mailing list? It is at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-notebook . -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net

Re: [sage-devel] Physical constants

2012-03-17 Thread Jonathan
As a scientist who would actually use this for research if it worked well, I have some thoughts. The thing that would make me use this instead of my personally maintained list of constants is if there were a command to update the constants automagically from the NIST database. You should also

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Basing new development versions of Sage on the previous development version

2012-03-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le samedi 17 mars, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit: > On 2012-03-16 14:01, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > > For the same reason you started releasing 5.0 prealphas while > > finishing up 4.8. It makes sense to continue working on closing > > various fixes + improvements/features, but you shouldn't be doing > > th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Basing new development versions of Sage on the previous development version

2012-03-17 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-03-16 14:01, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > For the same reason you started releasing 5.0 prealphas while > finishing up 4.8. It makes sense to continue working on closing > various fixes + improvements/features, but you shouldn't be doing this > to code that is being prepped for release. Except

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Igor Deryabin
The server is down now, by the way :) суббота, 17 марта 2012 г. 13:02:03 UTC+3 пользователь Harald Schilly написал: > > > > On Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:00:02 AM UTC+1, Igor Deryabin wrote: >> >> Hello! >> I'm third-year student of Immanuel Kant Baltic Federal University >> (Russia) and I'm in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Igor Deryabin
Yes, I've already registered and created a worksheet. Sage Notebook looks like similar to Wolfram Mathematica :) Where can I join the mailing list? суббота, 17 марта 2012 г. 13:02:03 UTC+3 пользователь Harald Schilly написал: > > > > On Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:00:02 AM UTC+1, Igor Deryabin wr

[sage-devel] Re: Regarding GSOC 2012

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel Krenn
Hello Am 2012-03-16 20:41, schrieb Vivek Hamirwasia: > Sir, >I was going through SAGE project proposals for GSOC 2012. I am highly > interested in mathematics and programming and wish to learn more about > the level of mathematics that SAGE deals with. I am currently pursuing > my B.Tech in Co

[sage-devel] GSoC 2012 Kick-off

2012-03-17 Thread Animesh Garg
Hello Nathann and Team, Greetings I am Animesh, currently a PhD student in operations research at UC Berkeley. I have skimmed through the ideas page for the GSoC 2012. I find interest in the project listing :Optimization I have a undergraduate education in Manufacturing and Automation from Univ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage android project

2012-03-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le vendredi 16 mars, Dima Pasechnik a écrit: > On Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:23:47 UTC+8, Volker Braun wrote: > > > > I see the arm port as complimentary to the sage app. At one point > > we'll probably want to have an optional server that you can run on > > your device, and fall back to sagemath.o

[sage-devel] GSoC 2012 Kick-off

2012-03-17 Thread Animesh Garg
Hello Team and Nathan, Hello Nathann and Team, Greetings I am Animesh, currently a PhD student in operations research at UC Berkeley. I have skimmed through the ideas page for the GSoC 2012. I find interest in the project listing :Optimization I have a undergraduate education in Manufacturing

[sage-devel] GSoC proposal: Bipartite, planar, interval... graphs

2012-03-17 Thread Lukáš Lánský
Hello! It's great that Sage is part of GSoC. I'm a CompSci student at Charles University in Prague. I already (in last few months) submitted some patches that fixed ~dozen of minor flaws of Sage graph library: see tickets #10135, #12325, #9786 for example. Most of them are already merged. This y

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:00:02 AM UTC+1, Igor Deryabin wrote: > > Hello! > I'm third-year student of Immanuel Kant Baltic Federal University (Russia) > and I'm interested in Sage Notebook UI Enhancements. > I'm enjoying freelance for a 4 years and have skills in HTML5 and > JavaScript. >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:47:14 AM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > It would be good to understand whether this is feasible for me. Is it OK > to have NTU (Singapore) as affiliation? > > affiliations don't matter, it's up to the organizations themselves who they trust to be a mentor. ever

[sage-devel] Re: Sage goes GSoC

2012-03-17 Thread Igor Deryabin
Hello! I'm third-year student of Immanuel Kant Baltic Federal University (Russia) and I'm interested in Sage Notebook UI Enhancements. I'm enjoying freelance for a 4 years and have skills in HTML5 and JavaScript. Is there something that I need to know about this task except the info from the Ide

[sage-devel] Re: Basing new development versions of Sage on the previous development version

2012-03-17 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> "R. Andrew Ohana" writes: >>> This makes it obvious that I'm against having later versions of sage >>> be based upon previous versions, however, I am completely for later >>> versions of sage