Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 8:20:45 PM UTC+1, William wrote: >> >> Following up on this, that we don't fully support people doing >> development for Sage by creating independent pip-installable packages > > > Where is the problem, I did th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 8:20:45 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > Following up on this, that we don't fully support people doing > development for Sage by creating independent pip-installable packages Where is the problem, I did that before and it works just fine. Of course sage isn't on py

Re: [sage-devel] incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-01-11 17:26, William Stein wrote: Hi, For what it is worth I'm highly supportive of Sage development moving to github. I like trac (especially the way Sage uses it) a lot better than github. What I mostly dislike about github is that "issues" and "pull requests" are different things.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:52 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> But if you want to use the github issue tracker then that wouldn't work as >>> easily. I don't think we even can import our current trac database, not to >>> mention that some

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM, kcrisman wrote: > >> >> >> But if you want to use the github issue tracker then that wouldn't work as >> easily. I don't think we even can import our current trac database, not to >> mention that some fields (e.g. Reviewer) are missing. >> > > There's also the non

[sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread kcrisman
> > > But if you want to use the github issue tracker then that wouldn't work as > easily. I don't think we even can import our current trac database, not to > mention that some fields (e.g. Reviewer) are missing. > > There's also the non-trivial (though not blocker, probably) issue that zilli

[sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread Volker Braun
As William already said, there is the github<->trac bot. Even without that, you can just copy branches over. So if you want to do the review on github and then stick it into trac thats easy to do. But if you want to use the github issue tracker then that wouldn't work as easily. I don't think w

Re: [sage-devel] cython string problem

2016-01-11 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-01-10 21:20, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2016-01-10 18:26, Daniel Krenn wrote: >> This shows that the problem is += in >>s += self.separator.join(E) > > Are you sure? I already get a problem here: Nevermind; already solved. Thanks Daniel -- You received this message because you are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: cython string problem

2016-01-11 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-01-10 20:36, Volker Braun wrote: > 1) don't cdef class attributes, it just makes debugging unnecessary > hard. Unless you are wrapping C-level types where you can't avoid it, of > course. Just keep it in python, maybe use cpdef if you must. Ok. > 2) I'd recommend using __cinit__ instead o

Re: [sage-devel] incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread Bill Page
On 11 January 2016 at 11:26, William Stein wrote: > > For what it is worth I'm highly supportive of Sage development moving to > github. >... > Anyway what github have accomplished in the last few years is very > impressive. > +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [sage-devel] incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread William Stein
Hi, For what it is worth I'm highly supportive of Sage development moving to github. However, I think the release manager should be completely 100% in charge of where Sage dev happens. It's much more important that we have a solid process for doing sage releases than anything else. Robert Brad

[sage-devel] incremental migration to github?

2016-01-11 Thread Ralf Stephan
Can you think of ways to move development step-by-step to github? What would be wrong with accepting pull requests for *some parts of Sage, then review, followed by submission to trac by an intermediary? This would need a second repository I guess. Permissions to merge could be given on request.

[sage-devel] Re: plugins.startup_modules error

2016-01-11 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le lundi 11 janvier 2016 12:38:50 UTC+1, Volker Braun a écrit : > > Its not really an error, but one should strive to not add unneccessary > modules. > > > Yes, I thought this was taken into account by using only lazy_import, as we do (except in sage.all, where the import from sage.manifolds.

Re: [sage-devel] plugins.startup_modules error

2016-01-11 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le lundi 11 janvier 2016 12:35:36 UTC+1, vdelecroix a écrit : > > Hello Eric, > > The plugin is very naive: it just looks for new modules on startup. And > you added one. You should not worry about it. The patchbot green light > is not at all mandatory to get a ticket reviewed. > > OK, I see.

[sage-devel] Re: plugins.startup_modules error

2016-01-11 Thread Volker Braun
Its not really an error, but one should strive to not add unneccessary modules. On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:55:36 AM UTC+1, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > > Hi, > > On the ticket > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18529 > the patchbots report a failed plugins.startup_modules: > http://patchbo

Re: [sage-devel] plugins.startup_modules error

2016-01-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello Eric, The plugin is very naive: it just looks for new modules on startup. And you added one. You should not worry about it. The patchbot green light is not at all mandatory to get a ticket reviewed. Vincent On 11/01/16 06:55, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: Hi, On the ticket http://trac.sage

[sage-devel] plugins.startup_modules error

2016-01-11 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, On the ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18529 the patchbots report a failed plugins.startup_modules: http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/18529/ Clicking on "diff", one gets the report == plugins.startup_modules == --- 7.0.beta3 +++ 7.0.beta3 + #18529 -Total count: 2

[sage-devel] Extracting documentation

2016-01-11 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
1) Is it easily possible to extract documentation without testable parts from Sage source code? For example from def foo() """ Return 42. EXAMPLES: Basic usage:: sage: foo() 42 """ return 42 one could get Return 42. Basic usage: 2) Can Sage compute L

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Notebooks from admin viewpoint

2016-01-11 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016, Nils Bruin wrote: I would argue the opposite, making local accounts is exactly what you usually do to let users run their own programs (i.e. execute arbitrary code).  I would agree with that. However, one would also expect that a notebook server that can manage accounts

Re: [sage-devel] Notebooks from admin viewpoint

2016-01-11 Thread mmarco
Where is that interface available? El sábado, 9 de enero de 2016, 22:15:51 (UTC+1), William escribió: > > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016, Jori Mäntysalo > wrote: > >> I am basically just a sysadmin. >> >> For normal users and normal processes I can for example userdel -r to >> totally remove a u