On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael Orlitzky
wrote:
[...] Gentoo Prefix [...] Nix [...]
Guix and spack could also work.
I guess there are several requirements we need
1. Support for all major OS/architecture
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael Orlitzky
wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:49 -0700, William Stein wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> > of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
> > and I'm very
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:12:45 AM UTC-7 kcrisman wrote:
As an example, how old of a Windows computer could one install the current
Sage on? I mean from scratch - not necessarily from source - using WSL,
which I guess is now the main supported way to do so?
One needs Windows >= 10
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:21 PM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:49:50 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote:
>
> To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> of these problems? [...]
> I also think this section
>
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:07:44 AM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote:
> and took 5.8GB disk instead of the 3GB disk of the Sage mac app).
Yes, conda packages usually come with batteries included which means
packages come with their
optional build time dependencies installed. That's usually not
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:49:50 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote:
To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
of these problems? [...]
I also think this section
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:59:22 AM UTC-7 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 2023-04-26 19:59:01, Matthias Koeppe wrote:
> Just as a data point, eliminating the spkg and only supporting system
PARI
> 2.15.x would have the effect to eliminate support of:
> - all versions of Ubuntu except for
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:49 -0700, William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
> and I'm very optimistic.
This isn't the first time the idea has come up. Burcin got
Isuru,
Thanks for answering all my questions. I just want to reiterate that
I'm thrilled with what you are doing and greatly appreciate it!
William
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:07 AM Isuru Fernando wrote:
>
> > it fails with "└─ sage is uninstallable because there are no viable
> > options"
> it fails with "└─ sage is uninstallable because there are no viable
options"
We don't have a python 3.11 version of sage in conda yet. I started a PR
manually as the automatic update
failed for some reason.
> What is it doing that first time, and why is it silent? It's very
unnerving.
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 08:38 -0700, Nils Bruin wrote:
>
> But another problem before was that the different packages would not
> develop in lockstep. Some components might need one specific version of
> prerequisites and others another. So one could run into genuine version
> conflicts.
In
On Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 03:59:22 UTC-7 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
It's not the end of the world if users on a distro with old
dependencies have to stick to an older version of sage. Ideally, they
would be getting sage from their distro in the first place. A problem
only arises when you try
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:12 -0700, kcrisman wrote:
>
> As an example, how old of a Windows computer could one install the current
> Sage on? ...
>
> In any case, it would be very helpful for people who may be actively using
> Sge in less-resourced environment to chime in here.
>
My desktop
Hi,
To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
and I'm very optimistic.
I looked at
https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html
and I would love some further discussion of that and
As of today, it is plausible that such situations still exist.
I am wondering about such situations existing in less-resourced areas
globally (which would include less-resourced parts of developed countries).
One big advantage of Sage-the-distribution historically was the ability to
make
On 2023-04-26 19:59:01, Matthias Koeppe wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:37:17 PM UTC-7 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
> Just as a data point, eliminating the spkg and only supporting system PARI
> 2.15.x would have the effect to eliminate support of:
> - all versions of Ubuntu except for
I fully agree.
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/34420
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/32133
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/32143
On Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 11:12:31 UTC+2 Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 at 06:25, 'Martin R' via sage-devel
> wrote:
> >
> >
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 at 06:25, 'Martin R' via sage-devel
wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 21:06:30 UTC+2 Oscar Benjamin wrote:
>>
>> One thing Sage could do with SymPy's RootSum is to call doit which
>> will expand using radical formulae if possible:
>>
>> x**2/(3*a**2 + 3*a*b*x**3) +
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 2:15 AM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
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> A previous sage-devel thread led to this question, which I think is important
> and timely to discuss.
>
> **What was/is/will be the *purpose* of maintaining the Sage distribution?**
> (Historically; as of today; and looking forward by a
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