[sage-devel] Re: git diff branch1..develop

2014-05-01 Thread leif
you'd only need to do git trac config --user USERNAME --pass 'PASSWORD' once, and it will store the data somewhere... Somewhere...?! I wouldn't recommend anyone to use that feature; it's IMHO odd it's even there. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cur

[sage-devel] Re: git diff branch1..develop

2014-05-01 Thread leif
Simon King wrote: Why am I asked for my trac password when I just pull? Shouldn't a password only be required for pushing, but not for pulling? Depends on the configured protocol (I think); git://... vs. ssh://git@... -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -

[sage-devel] Re: R graphics and pkg-config (trac #15742)

2014-05-01 Thread leif
François Bissey wrote: On Thu, 01 May 2014 23:06:53 leif wrote: François Bissey wrote: On Thu, 01 May 2014 22:58:47 leif wrote: Felix Salfelder wrote: pkg-config --variable pc_path pkg-config That doesn't always work. (See my other post on how to get it.) Using configure is certai

[sage-devel] Re: R graphics and pkg-config (trac #15742)

2014-05-01 Thread leif
François Bissey wrote: On Thu, 01 May 2014 22:58:47 leif wrote: Felix Salfelder wrote: pkg-config --variable pc_path pkg-config That doesn't always work. (See my other post on how to get it.) Using configure is certainly a good option. +1, I like it. Sage's top-level 'co

[sage-devel] Re: R graphics and pkg-config (trac #15742)

2014-05-01 Thread leif
Felix Salfelder wrote: pkg-config --variable pc_path pkg-config That doesn't always work. (See my other post on how to get it.) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-de

[sage-devel] Re: R graphics and pkg-config (trac #15742)

2014-05-01 Thread leif
ning /{print substr($3,2,length($3)-2)}' /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig /usr/lib/pkgconfig /usr/share/pkgconfig -leif On 2/05/2014, at 5:38, William Stein wrote: Hi, I just spent a while trying to figure out how to get R png graphics to work again in Sage-6.2rc0 on Ubuntu 14.04. Note th

[sage-devel] Re: git diff branch1..develop

2014-05-01 Thread leif
ng to the /state of the ticket/)? Just asking... -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[sage-devel] Re: Problem compiling sage 6.2.rc0-develop with macosx/mavericks

2014-05-01 Thread leif
been released). -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@g

[sage-devel] Re: error installing top com

2014-04-30 Thread leif
John H Palmieri wrote: On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:20:25 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:45:35 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: leif wrote: > Volker Braun wrote: >> there is no separate spkg in sage >= 6, its is an optional

[sage-devel] Re: error installing top com

2014-04-29 Thread leif
leif wrote: Volker Braun wrote: there is no separate spkg in sage >= 6, its is an optional pkg but lives in the git tree. But the first error seems to be that $SAGE_ROOT/upstream/ doesn't exist (because it's a binary distribution of Sage I guess), and after that error, sage-spkg

[sage-devel] Re: error installing top com

2014-04-29 Thread leif
ds the legacy TOPCOM spkg, and attempts to install that. Oskar, you may try to delete the TOPCOM *spkg* in /Applications/sage/upstream/, and instead place http://www.sagemath.org/packages/upstream/topcom/topcom-0.17.4.tar.bz2 there. Afterwards retry 'sage -i topcom'. -leif On Tu

[sage-devel] Re: Problem compiling sage 6.2.rc0-develop with macosx/mavericks

2014-04-29 Thread leif
seful) "Merged:" field filled. Similar for the changelog entries in SPKG.txt files; they provide[d] different (namely usually higher-level), and easier to access information than commit logs (and diffs) do. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received t

[sage-devel] Re: optional_packages, install_package, etc. are completely broken in sage-6.2.rc0

2014-04-27 Thread leif
could take hours, fail, and render your Sage install useless!! We don't recommend, but we also don't prevent people from running os.system("sage -b") or os.system("make") from the Sage prompt. -leif On Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:42:36 PM UTC+1, Willia

[sage-devel] Re: Error: environment variable $HOME is not set.

2014-04-26 Thread leif
t we should probably just require HOME to be set *unless* DOT_SAGE is already set. (Using Sage shouldn't need $HOME, while building Sage might still, e.g. ECL by default wanted to look into $HOME when building Maxima, because we [used to] run it without '--norc'...) -leif -- ()

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-24 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: Do you have a URL for me of the bug / fixes? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/968766 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/972648 -leif On 20 April 2014 16:26, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: Jan Groenewald

[sage-devel] Re: Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-23 Thread leif
Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:42:44 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: >> (Release of 4.9.0 is scheduled for Tuesday, so we'll presumably face it >> soon in some distros.) I'm updating an Ubuntu LTS and it seems gcc 4.9 is shipped with it (I did n

[sage-devel] Re: Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-22 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Is there already a ticket for issues with GCC 4.9? I think I'll open a (small) metaticket soon. Did so: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16208 Although it's (currently) not a metaticket; I also haven't pushed the patches yet, but will do so soon. B

[sage-devel] Re: Problems in the computation of hyperbolicity.

2014-04-22 Thread leif
ces/ (7) is the limiting factor. -leif 2014-04-22 12:56 UTC+02:00, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com>: Hello Miguel, If you need support in Sage you should use the sage-support googlegroups or ask.sagemath.org. The sage-devel mailing list is about development and bug re

[sage-devel] Re: Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-21 Thread leif
leif wrote: Is there already a ticket for issues with GCC 4.9? I think I'll open a (small) metaticket soon. (Release of 4.9.0 is scheduled for Tuesday, so we'll presumably face it soon in some distros.) Depending on when Sage 6.2 gets released, we may also release some 6.1.2

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread leif
esting, it would presumably be best to just (try to) install Sage from the PPA onto a *virgin* Tahr (and/or Pangolin etc.) [picture that!], and optionally run the full test suite, or just play with it. -leif On 21 April 2014 11:28, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: Jan

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: I am suprised at these not being contained in sage: Ahem, run that from within a Sage subshell? (We don't set DT_RUNPATH, but currently rely on sage-env setting up LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately.) 0 root@kontiki:/usr/lib/sagemath/local/bin#for i in *; do ldd $i | egrep

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: P.S.: Beat the Ubuntu guys for not releasing fixed versions of Ubuntu/Linaro GCC 4.6.3 for Precise. (They still ship the broken 1ubuntu5 IIRC, although the fixes had been there two yea

[sage-devel] Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-20 Thread leif
ken w.r.t. '-O3' and AMD's XOP instructions, but that's a different story.) More to come... -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To uns

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: Depends: build-essential, gfortran [probably also m4] Are build-essential and m4 not only from-source build dependencies? I would maybe move them to Suggests: Is there runtime functionality, a fu

[sage-devel] Re: more optional package weirdness

2014-04-19 Thread leif
. not installed Type 'sage -i package_name' to download and install a package. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-19 Thread leif
Kannappan Sampath wrote: On Apr 19, 2014, at 11:17 PM, leif wrote: Kannappan Sampath wrote: Hah, nice catch! I did not try either of them and that helps find out more: Apples-MacBook-Pro:~ apple$ sage --kash /Users/apple/sage/local/bin/kash: line 4: ./kash3: Bad CPU type in executable I

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-19 Thread leif
leif wrote: Kannappan Sampath wrote: Apples-MacBook-Pro:~ apple$ sage --kash /Users/apple/sage/local/bin/kash: line 4: ./kash3: Bad CPU type in executable I get the above. I am using Sage Version 6.2.beta7, Release Date: 2014-04-08. So, how do I proceed with this one. Replace the CPU? (No

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-19 Thread leif
-08. So, how do I proceed with this one. Replace the CPU? (No idea. Probably upload the build log of the kash spkg somewhere, such that the Darwinists can take a look at.) I also don't know how to solve (or avoid) the precision error PARI throws (once kash works). -leif On Apr 19,

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-19 Thread leif
n other distros like Arch Linux and OpenSuSE). -leif Where Depends is strict, to even start the program, while Recommends is for all but outlier cases, e.g. a lot of functionality could be broken, all usual installations come with those, and Suggests is for what many people would use with it. Ca

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-19 Thread leif
sh3-2008-07-31.p0'] Did you check whether $ ./sage --kash and sage: from sage.interfaces.all import kash work? (And btw., which version of Sage are you using?) -leif P.S.: sage: K.galois_group('gap') Galois group Transitive group number 9 of degree 13 of the Numb

[sage-devel] Re: more optional package weirdness

2014-04-17 Thread leif
bviously isn't taken care of everywhere. -leif salvus@salvus-base: ~ salvus@salvus-base:~$ sage -f database_gap Found local metadata for database_gap-4.7.4 Found local sources at /usr/local/sage/sage-6.2.beta8/upstream/database_gap-4.7.4.tar.bz2 Checksum: 6e5f63df55881

[sage-devel] Re: Why I can not install sqlalchemy any longer?

2014-04-12 Thread leif
leif wrote: Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-04-12 18:08, Simon King wrote: So, is rm -rf "$SAGE_LOCAL/lib/python/site-packages/SQLAlchemy*" the wrong thing to do, i.e., a bug? Yes, it is wrong, the * in the quotes will not be expanded. And that's in Sage's original spkg-i

[sage-devel] Re: Why I can not install sqlalchemy any longer?

2014-04-12 Thread leif
should at least fix that. Sorry for blindly copy-pasting the broken 'rm' line, didn't notice at all... m) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" g

[sage-devel] Re: Why I can not install sqlalchemy any longer?

2014-04-12 Thread leif
Simon King wrote: How can I get the checksum.ini file right? ./sage --sh -c sage-fix-pkg-checksums (May take a while; so you may take a look at $SAGE_ROOT/src/bin/sage-fix-pkg-checksums and just do what's done there for sqlalchemy-0.9.4 ... ;-) ) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Cam

[sage-devel] Re: Why I can not install sqlalchemy any longer?

2014-04-12 Thread leif
ust do what Sage's spkg-install does, namely rm -rf "$SAGE_LOCAL/lib/python/site-packages/SQLAlchemy*" before installing SQLAlchemy 0.9.4 from a Sage subshell, as you did before. But that way you might end up with again Sage's old version if you later upgrade other parts of

[sage-devel] Re: Installing sage: Error ... -- bash broken due to Sage's outdated libreadline

2014-04-11 Thread leif
leif wrote: On 10.04.2014 04:03, 张彪 wrote: I follow the steps in the "Git the Hard Way" of http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/manual_git.html. but an Error occurs. -- My computer and operating system: 4 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470S CPU

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Cannot start Sage after upgrading to 6.2.beta7

2014-04-10 Thread leif
Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 2014-04-10, leif wrote: [...] Yep, it doesn't "figure it out", it hardcodes 'libtool' on Darwin: ix86Mac-darwin) AC_CHECK_LIB(dl, dlopen) if test "$ac_cv_lib_dl_dlopen" = yes; then

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Cannot start Sage after upgrading to 6.2.beta7

2014-04-10 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Volker Braun wrote: It builds fine on bsd with 10.6. Maybe you need to update your XCode? I guess his libtool in PATH is simply not Apple's... So presumably an upstream bug. P.S.: From Singular's spkg-install: if [ "$UNAME" = "Darwin

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Cannot start Sage after upgrading to 6.2.beta7

2014-04-10 Thread leif
leif wrote: Volker Braun wrote: It builds fine on bsd with 10.6. Maybe you need to update your XCode? I guess his libtool in PATH is simply not Apple's... So presumably an upstream bug. P.S.: From Singular's spkg-install: if [ "$UNAME" = "Darwin" ]; then

[sage-devel] Re: Cannot start Sage after upgrading to 6.2.beta7

2014-04-10 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: It builds fine on bsd with 10.6. Maybe you need to update your XCode? I guess his libtool in PATH is simply not Apple's... So presumably an upstream bug. -leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: I am stuck on singular on OSX 1

[sage-devel] Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-10 Thread leif
services using OpenSSL. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-deve

[sage-devel] Re: Installing sage: Error installing package sqlite-3.7.17.p1

2014-04-10 Thread leif
et another instance of "Sage's readline breaks programs linked to a newer system libreadline"? (If so, we'd have to once again update the "logic" in readline's spkg-install. Or finally make readline a prerequisite...) -leif real

[sage-devel] Re: Heartbleed -- OpenSSL 1.0.1 security issue

2014-04-09 Thread leif
older releases which still use 0.9.x versions aren't affected. -leif [1] https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-0160 -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel&

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-06 Thread leif
7;,\` .section __DATA,__const')"],POST) OBJECT_FORMAT="-f macho64" ;; *-w64-mingw*|*-*-cygwin*) OBJECT_FORMAT="-f x64" ;; -leif On 6 April 2014 18:03, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: leif wrote: Ok,

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-06 Thread leif
leif wrote: Ok, here's minimalist's quick'n'dirty temporary solution; minimally-invasive in that it touches only one file and affects only Darwin x86_64 :-) : --- mpir-2.7.0-alpha2/configure.ac +++ mpir-2.7.0-alpha2/configure.ac @@ -2843,15 +2843,18 @@

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-05 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Bill Hart wrote: I don't know how to fix that. The line in question is: .section .data.rel.ro.local,"aw",@progbits Ahem, that's an *ELF* section name (along with its attributes)... It is complaining that .data.rel.ro.local is too lo

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-05 Thread leif
leif wrote: Bill Hart wrote: I don't know how to fix that. The line in question is: .section .data.rel.ro.local,"aw",@progbits Ahem, that's an *ELF* section name (along with its attributes)... It is complaining that .data.rel.ro.local is too long. Yeah,

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-05 Thread leif
by past versions of their assembler! It probably should be reported as a bug to the binutils people, since it is going to stop a lot of code compiling on Macs. The linker hint should have been chosen with a shorter name. Well, if at all, to Apple... B) -leif On 5 April 2014 23:14, leif mailt

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-05 Thread leif
CXX="g++" CXXFLAGS="-m64 -O2 -march=core2 -mtune=core2" MPN_PATH=" x86_64/nehalem/westmere x86_64/nehalem x86_64 generic" (This is bsd.math at UW; [vanilla] MPIR 2.6.0 passed 'make check' (without --enable-cxx) with this configuration.)

[sage-devel] Re: [mpir-devel] Re: MPIR-2.7.0-alpha1, testing needed

2014-04-05 Thread leif
alphas unpack into mpir-2.7.0/ . And the HTML links for alpha2 refer to the alpha1... ;-) [Shouldn't make a difference on systems other than Windows though, I guess, and for those there's a zip file without an HTML link.] -leif Cygwin/MinGW/Cygwin64/MinGW64: wget http://mpir.org/m

[sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-06-29 Thread leif
Dox wrote: I could try to change something... However, What is the way to provide a patch? Is it through github? http://sagemath.org/doc/developer/walk_through.html#submitting-a-change -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you

[sage-devel] Re: graph theory: clarify the purpose of keyword "directed" in degree() of CGraphBackend

2013-06-29 Thread leif
makes me wonder whether being neighbouring is (ir)reflexive... (Some of my alter egos agree, while some of course don't, depending on whether they know each other and/or themselves.) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because yo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.10 : (unfathomable) problem compiling singular.

2013-06-24 Thread leif
leif wrote: Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: Trying to compile sage on an old laptop (Toshiba Core2 + 2 Gb RAM + Debian testing). I'm compiling with MAKE="make -j2 -l 3". End of the (second attempt to) compilation :

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.10 : (unfathomable) problem compiling singular.

2013-06-24 Thread leif
ular compilation log, but I cant join them now (the damn "attach files" dialog doesn't appear in my Google page, probably because I just joined this group...). Any pointers ? That's an upstream bug, see #14737 (preliminary .p8 spkg available there). -leif -- () The ASC

[sage-devel] Re: Error in compiling sage 5.10 in mageia 3

2013-06-24 Thread leif
ecially it doesn't break *building* Sage. (Besides that, the cause of the error is pretty obvious I think -- in contrast to the PPL issue.) -leif On Monday, June 24, 2013 10:36:54 AM UTC-4, leif wrote: And the only other spkg that frequently causes trouble (although recently much le

[sage-devel] Re: Error in compiling sage 5.10 in mageia 3

2013-06-24 Thread leif
used if present and recent enough). -leif On Monday, June 24, 2013 9:53:34 AM UTC-4, leif wrote: The PPL spkg should really make sure it doesn't break (the system-wide) GCC before installing its libraries... (and perhaps otherwise create symlinks to the system-wide PPL libs

[sage-devel] Re: Error in compiling sage 5.10 in mageia 3

2013-06-24 Thread leif
the system-wide) GCC before installing its libraries... (and perhaps otherwise create symlinks to the system-wide PPL libs; not sure whether the headers would be compatible, i.e., if Sage's could be used in case ppl-devel isn't installed). -leif On Monday, June 24, 2013 7:3

[sage-devel] Re: Error in compiling sage 5.10 in mageia 3

2013-06-24 Thread leif
ost the "config.log"? Yes, please... ;-) (/home/phantogom/sage-5.10/spkg/build/pynac-0.2.6/src/config.log) -leif > Found package pynac-0.2.6 in spkg/standard/pynac-0.2.6.spkg > pynac-0.2.6 > > Extracting package /home/ph

[sage-devel] Re: New doctest continuation ....:

2013-06-23 Thread leif
for the sake of no trailing whitespace, there's none. Well, one trailing blank is actually part of the prompt of the empty continuation line, so you presumably shouldn't remove it. Or did I get you wrong? -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You rec

[sage-devel] Re: New doctest continuation ....:

2013-06-23 Thread leif
[1] such reports end up on is meanwhile linked to from the Sage trac wiki page though.) -leif [1] http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pCwvGVwSMxTzT6E2xNdo5fA (It seems we even get error reports for the *other* Sage software there! XD ) -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail

[sage-devel] Re: The 2013 Spies Prize winner is...

2013-06-22 Thread leif
grats! -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.

[sage-devel] Re: python triggers virus scanner

2013-06-21 Thread leif
/issue17843 quote: "Apparently the file triggers a warning in several anti virus programs because it looks like a zip bomb." Can we update to python 2.7.5? That would fix this problem: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7.5/ That's #14600, merged into Sage 5.11.bet

[sage-devel] Re: New doctest continuation ....:

2013-06-20 Thread leif
leif wrote: Keshav Kini wrote: Stefan writes: I'd ask for p[6:], that's the expected use and consistent with the previous line which tests for '... ' (note the space). I agree with that - I was just miming the .lstrip() after 'sage:' found in previous li

[sage-devel] Re: New doctest continuation ....:

2013-06-20 Thread leif
Keshav Kini wrote: Stefan writes: I'd ask for p[6:], that's the expected use and consistent with the previous line which tests for '... ' (note the space). I agree with that - I was just miming the .lstrip() after 'sage:' found in previous lines. I'll f

[sage-devel] Re: find_stat in Sage, the combinatorial_map decorator and its consequences

2013-06-20 Thread leif
kcrisman wrote: The shrillness level has gotten a little higher than really necessary, certainly than customary on this list. We haven't seen illustrations of the effect of the @bushy_tail decorators yet... :P -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -

[sage-devel] Re: find_stat in Sage, the combinatorial_map decorator and its consequences

2013-06-20 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: Right now there is not really anything, thats a question of what the find_stat roadmap is. But I don't see a need for that unless there is any need for it. +1 -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because yo

[sage-devel] Re: New ore_algebra Sage package is available

2013-06-18 Thread leif
available / listed in the "experimental" category.] Or maybe (haven't looked at it yet) it violates the conventions for spkgs (in that it modifies the Sage library)? -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you ar

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Cygwin

2013-06-18 Thread leif
tions, too.) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegr

[sage-devel] Re: Error in compiling Sage 5.9 in Fedora 18

2013-06-16 Thread leif
ing Sage's toolchain failed (unless perhaps '-k' was given to 'make'). -leif On Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:02:33 AM UTC-4, Wai Man Chung wrote: Dear all, I am building Sage 5.9 from source code

[sage-devel] Re: Using ssh for port-forwarding

2013-06-13 Thread leif
mmarco wrote: Thanks, that seems to work. sudo -u mmarco update {wiki,faq,Installation_Guide,...} -leif On 12 jun, 04:02, "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 03:54:58AM -0700, mmarco wrote: I tried to do that, and it gives some problems. I don't know wh

[sage-devel] Re: Singular fails to build in Sage 5.9

2013-06-13 Thread leif
.c:13: ../factory/cf_gmp.h:2501:28: fatal error: bits/c++config.h: No such file or directory #include ^ compilation terminated. make[4]: *** [weight0.o] Error 1 This is an upstream Singular bug; see #14737 [1]. -leif [1] http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrading to recent beta from the 5.8 ones

2013-06-12 Thread leif
table 5.7, or 5.9.beta4+) version to upgrade from. But the final 5.10 will (hopefully) get out soon anyway (although you could upgrade from 5.10.rc1, say, later, too). I'd recommend building 5.10.rc1 from scratch (and upgrading /that/ later) though... ;-) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbo

[sage-devel] Re: recompilation with "sage -clone"

2013-06-11 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: leif wrote: Looks like reinstalling the Sage library spkg would meanwhile also trigger the rebuild of *all* extension modules; not sure since when though... (seen with Sage 5.10.beta5 at least) Yep. This is because #14570, merged into Sage 5.10.beta4, completely

[sage-devel] Re: recompilation with "sage -clone"

2013-06-11 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Looks like reinstalling the Sage library spkg would meanwhile also trigger the rebuild of *all* extension modules; not sure since when though... (seen with Sage 5.10.beta5 at least) Yep. This is because #14570, merged into Sage 5.10.beta4, completely breaks sage-sync

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread leif
(i.e., shipping links to *system* libraries, or including /some/ version). -leif The current answers look more like the usual "No, because it's different from what we do now!" than like a technical discussion... Snark on #sagemath -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Hel

[sage-devel] Re: R build error in 5.10 was Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-09 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: leif wrote: Ursula Whitcher wrote: ... gcc -std=gnu99 -shared -fopenmp -o libR.so CConverters.o CommandLineArgs.o Rdynload.o Renviron.o RNG.o agrep.o apply.o arithmetic.o array.o attrib.o base.o bind.o builtin.o character.o coerce.o colors.o complex.o connections.o

[sage-devel] New major release of R (3.0.1)

2013-06-09 Thread leif
and a trivial patch to the Sage library). -leif [1] http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14706 -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: Should already built static ATLAS libraries get discarded?

2013-06-08 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: On Saturday, June 8, 2013 6:31:40 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: ... which isn't tuned for the specific machine. au contraire, full tuned. Of course using some pre-tuned values, for which you need a recent enough Core i7. So you're saying they're shipping

[sage-devel] Re: Should already built static ATLAS libraries get discarded?

2013-06-08 Thread leif
are different implementations / libraries only work (or worked, tried that a while ago) with *static* ATLAS libraries. The ATLAS documentation (or website at least) is a mess as well, so I'm unable to provide links here. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You re

[sage-devel] Re: Should already built static ATLAS libraries get discarded?

2013-06-08 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: On Saturday, June 8, 2013 5:23:57 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: Btw., there's still not even a script to save the once built [shared] ATLAS libraries for use by another Sage installation. And such a script would be totally pointless if there were static libraries flo

[sage-devel] Re: Static libraries considered harmful

2013-06-08 Thread leif
a script to save the once built [shared] ATLAS libraries for use by another Sage installation. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: Using ssh for port-forwarding

2013-06-08 Thread leif
TERM setting. -leif This makes the pexpect interface fail. On 7 jun, 16:41, leif wrote: mmarco wrote: On a different (but related) subject: is it possible to interface instances of Maple/Mathematica/etc on a different machine through ssh? That /should/ transparently work if you just cre

[sage-devel] Re: A file-based Cc in Trac

2013-06-08 Thread leif
lso reuse parts of the patchbot code.] > Or if this was a feature that more than one person would use, someone > could write a checker and mailer into the post-receive hook in trac's > repo. Well, I will probably use it a lot, so why not implementing it too ? :-) A server-side solut

[sage-devel] Re: Using ssh for port-forwarding

2013-06-07 Thread leif
@host -c program_name' (for each of the programs you want to use remotely). -leif It would be a good thing to have, for example, for people using the virtualbox appliance, but have these programs installed on their host machine. -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Ma

[sage-devel] Re: A file-based Cc in Trac

2013-06-07 Thread leif
would be a cool feature That shouldn't be too hard to implement (I'm not volunteering though). On the other hand, you currently don't even get a notification when someone adds/changes an attachment to a ticket you're already cc'ed on... ;-) -leif P.S.: An

[sage-devel] Cython archeologists: sage/rings/complex_double_api.h?

2013-06-06 Thread leif
What is this file (for), where does it originate from, do we still need it? It's in .hgignore, and dates back to July 9th 2012. Cf. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13245#comment:19 . Thanks, -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received

[sage-devel] Re: incorrect spelling in a function name

2013-06-06 Thread leif
John Cremona wrote: On 6 June 2013 15:28, leif wrote: John Cremona wrote: While reviewing #13591 I noticed that two functions on point on elliptic curves over number fields are spelled incorrectly: schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_point.py:2600:def archimedian_local_height(self

[sage-devel] Re: incorrect spelling in a function name

2013-06-06 Thread leif
issues... The most prominent perhaps being Möbius, where we have moebius (correct) as well as mobius, both with many more occurrences than archimedian. -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

[sage-devel] Re: R build error in 5.10 was Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Ursula Whitcher wrote: ... gcc -std=gnu99 -shared -fopenmp -o libR.so CConverters.o CommandLineArgs.o Rdynload.o Renviron.o RNG.o agrep.o apply.o arithmetic.o array.o attrib.o base.o bind.o builtin.o character.o coerce.o colors.o complex.o connections.o context.o

[sage-devel] Re: R build error in 5.10 was Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
leif wrote: Ursula Whitcher wrote: ... gcc -std=gnu99 -shared -fopenmp -o libR.so CConverters.o CommandLineArgs.o Rdynload.o Renviron.o RNG.o agrep.o apply.o arithmetic.o array.o attrib.o base.o bind.o builtin.o character.o coerce.o colors.o complex.o connections.o context.o cov.o cum.o dcf.o

[sage-devel] Re: R build error in 5.10 was Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
FLAGS="-L/home/whitchua/sage-5.10.rc0/local/lib" ./sage -i spkg/standard/r-2.15.2.p2.spkg and if that worked, resume the normal build with $ make (Or before reissuing 'make' / 'sage -i ...', do e.g. 'export MAKE="make -j8"' to speed up things

[sage-devel] Re: error compiling sage

2013-06-05 Thread leif
Jeff wrote: Tried a 3 GB swap file, same error. I will wait for the official release of 5.10. Thanks for the suggestions though. Note that you could [try to] build 5.10.rc0 now, and when the final gets out, simply run 'sage --upgrade' (which shouldn't involve much rebuil

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
pparently not building in parallel, which requires exporting MAKE='make -jN', N the max. number of jobs.) On the bright side, I haven't had any ATLAS errors yet! On the other hand, we have no idea [yet] what went wrong in the first place... ;-) Out of curiosity: What does 

[sage-devel] Re: tee: write error

2013-06-05 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: For the record, the end of install.log is exactly the same excluding the "tee: write error". On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:45:32 AM UTC+1, leif wrote: Cosmic ray? I just re-ran the whole build and got it again Weird. Did you change anything w.r.t. previ

[sage-devel] Re: Making gf2x a standard package

2013-06-05 Thread leif
s NTL is a standard spkg, it would be nice to skip the step "gf2x is an optional spkg (and we provide an optional NTL spkg using it)". Just for the record: There's a new NTL spkg (only fixing hardcoded 'make') at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14692 (Curr

[sage-devel] Re: Packages using make instead of $MAKE

2013-06-05 Thread leif
leif wrote: Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Just for information, these packages still use make instead of $MAKE: - atlas (upstream all over the place) - boehm_gc (in spkg-install) - cliquer (in spkg-install) - iml (in spkg-install, #748) - ntl (upstream) Fixed NTL spkg coming soon (#14692). (Now

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
/home/release/sage-5.10.rc0/sage-5.10.rc0.tar tar xf sage-5.10.rc0.tar cd sage-5.10.rc0 make If you just want the new ATLAS spkg: $ ./sage -i http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/release/sage-5.10.rc0/sage-5.10.rc0/spkg/standard/atlas-3.10.1.p0.spkg $ make -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Cam

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS build error on CentOS

2013-06-05 Thread leif
.log The file appears to be truncated (although about 19 MB); the interesting parts should be at the end... You may try reinstalling ATLAS with SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH=fast or SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH=base though (see [1]), i.e. $ export SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH=... $ make -leif [1] http://sagemath.org/d

[sage-devel] Re: error compiling sage

2013-06-05 Thread leif
h it but I will try it today. If you're not compiling a sage with a very recent libm4rie, 1GB+0.5GB will *not* be enough. Let me remind you what Leif wrote earlier: M4RIE got upgraded in Sage 5.10.beta1. Unfortunately the new spkg at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14336 also need

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [Bug-gsl] test release for gsl 1.16

2013-06-04 Thread leif
nux ppc64) I get one failure (not noise?!) with GCC 4.6.3 (but not 4.3.4): make[2]: Entering directory `/home/leif/src/gsl-1.15.90-build.silius-gcc-4.6.3/poly' FAIL: z1.real, 15th-order polynomial (-1.00044 observed vs 1 expected) [159] FAIL: z2.real, 15th-order polynomial (1.

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