And the main question: Does this really concern that much packages? If the
number
would be countable on one hand, it should really be considerd.
This sort of thing has been on our wish list since I started working with
Sage, anyway, and the problem is not so much the number of packages
Yes we do, but not as completely as x86. For instance the last version that
has an arm binary in the download page is 5.13.
The Wolfram language, which is something like a strpped version of
Mathematica, is included in the raspbian distribution. So, would raspberry
pi support fit into the
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote:
Yes we do, but not as completely as x86. For instance the last version that
has an arm binary in the download page is 5.13.
The Wolfram language, which is something like a strpped version of
Mathematica, is included in the
On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:25:56 PM UTC+1, William wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es javascript:
wrote:
Yes we do, but not as completely as x86. For instance the last version
that
has an arm binary in the download page is 5.13.
The Wolfram
Hi!
Concerning the support problematic for ARM, Windows etc:
We should ask ourselfs if we need a more minimal Sage distribution, which
is easily portable to
ALL Platforms. The main problem with Sage on many platforms is, that some
packages often fail to build.
Especially C based packages as
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM, maldun dom...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi!
Concerning the support problematic for ARM, Windows etc:
We should ask ourselfs if we need a more minimal Sage distribution, which is
easily portable to
ALL Platforms. The main problem with Sage on many platforms is, that
I don't know.
Is it harder to support a full Sage on a variety of different platforms
which are needed,
or to make a reduced Sage, where testing of the sub-distribution can be
fully contained,
in the main framework?
Additionally to that, we have to keep in mind that while sage grows in
Le vendredi 5 décembre 2014 21:14:54 UTC+1, maldun a écrit :
I don't think that the functionality of Sage is the big problem, in fact
Sage has a great features for zero cost.
Nothing is really free.
My estimate for a google search is an energy cost of 16Wh per search
(equivalent to 7g
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
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Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 14:44:55 UTC+1, parisse a écrit :
Le vendredi 5 décembre 2014 21:14:54 UTC+1, maldun a écrit :
I don't think that the functionality of Sage is the big problem, in fact
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
http://www.planetoscope.com/electronique/980-emissions-de-co2-par-les-recherches-sur-google.html
7g CO2/request.
Google's own published
Hi,
On 2014-12-08, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 d=C3=A9cembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a =C3=A9=
crit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:24 AM, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
Hi,
On 2014-12-08, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 d=C3=A9cembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a =C3=A9=
crit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 17:56:14 UTC+1, William a écrit :
If the question is to compute the energy used per request, it is
unfair to compute the energy used by *all* of the internet (the
energy used outside google in the net!). That can only give you a
very non-tight upper bound.
From my point of view, the sage-devel list is turning a bit funny. Ok,
this is the end of the year but I do not think that people have started
to drink (at least, they certainly do not drink in front of their computer).
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
2014-12-08 19:27 UTC+01:00, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr:
From my point of view, the sage-devel list is turning a bit funny. Ok,
this is the end of the year but I do not think that people have started
to drink (at least, they certainly do not drink in front of their
computer).
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 19:27:27 UTC+1, tdumont a écrit :
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
interesting (my lab is a member of the association EcoInfo in France,
so...). But be careful: people can rapidly decide that a discussion list
is polluted,
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, parisse
bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 19:27:27 UTC+1, tdumont a écrit :
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
interesting (my lab is a member of the association EcoInfo in France,
so...).
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
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On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:53:51 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote:
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
We do support ARM, don't we?
At least I'm able to compile Sage from scratch on a Raspberry Pi and on
armv7+ as well.
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:53:51 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote:
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
We do support ARM, don't we?
At least I'm able to compile Sage from scratch on a
Again, as this thread is titled User Survey, let's say that the
survey question might be: Do you *care* about support for Sage on ARM
devices such as Raspberry Pi, etc.?
Or *quick* usage on Internet-enabled devices that may not be able to run
Sage very quickly (i.e., continuing updates
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