[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Alex Ghitza
I find the current behaviour (which is fairly new) rather clear on this topic: -- | Sage Version 4.1.1.rc0, Release Date: 2009-07-29 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Alex Ghitza wrote: > I find the current behaviour (which is fairly new) rather clear on this topic: > > -- > | Sage Version 4.1.1.rc0, Release Date: 2009-07-29 | > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() fo

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Alex Ghitza wrote: >> I find the current behaviour (which is fairly new) rather clear on this >> topic: >> >> -- >> | Sage Version 4.1.1.rc0, Release Date: 2009-07-29  

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Timothy Clemans wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: >> Alex Ghitza wrote: >>> I find the current behaviour (which is fairly new) rather clear on this >>> topic: >>> >>> -- >>> | Sage Version 4.1.1.

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 2, 8:32 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > Timothy Clemans wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > > wrote: > >> Alex Ghitza wrote: > >>> I find the current behaviour (which is fairly new) rather clear on this > >>> topic: > > >>> --

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John H Palmieri wrote: >> I tried arguing this one before, but I appeared to have lost. > > No, last time you seemed to agree with it -- see the previous thread: > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/b3e57f934ee83c79?tvc=2 > > As far as the new suggestion ("WARNING ..

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 2, 11:19 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > > If there were only pre-release versions of Sage available, and no stable > release, then a less prominent message may be ok. But when there are > stable releases, and someone is using one that has not had much testing, > I believe that should be d

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John H Palmieri wrote: > On Aug 2, 11:19 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> If there were only pre-release versions of Sage available, and no stable >> release, then a less prominent message may be ok. But when there are >> stable releases, and someone is using one that has not had much testing,

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Tim Lahey
On Aug 2, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I can imagine a scenario where a user installs a pre-release > version, as > it fixes a problem he has. If Sage is working well for him, he > probably > wont bother updating it. Then others use his software, and don't give > the warning

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > John H Palmieri wrote: >> On Aug 2, 11:19 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" >> wrote: >>> If there were only pre-release versions of Sage available, and no stable >>> release, then a less prominent message may be ok. But when there are >>> stable

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Kwankyu
I like Tim's suggestion. "Warning" in small letters sounds a little timid. Kwankyu Lee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.c

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tim Lahey wrote: > How about, > > WARNING: This is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable. > > That way, it stands out, but is still easy to read. > > Cheers, > > Tim. It's an improvement I would agree. I also agree lower case is easier to read, but one is a bit less likely to read

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > John H Palmieri wrote: > >>> I tried arguing this one before, but I appeared to have lost. >> >> No, last time you seemed to agree with it -- see the previous thread: >> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/t

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-02 Thread David Kirkby
2009/8/3 Minh Nguyen : > I find that words in all capitals are much harder to read than words > with title case. My comment about "hurting my ears" was in relation to > using all capitals to denote shouting out loud. One of the down sides > of text-based communication is that one needs to first t

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-03 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > John H Palmieri wrote: >> On Aug 2, 11:19 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" >> wrote: >>> If there were only pre-release versions of Sage available, and no stable >>> release, then a less prominent message may be ok. But when there are >>> stable releases, and someone is using one

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-03 Thread slabbe
Hi, My feeling is that adding the sentence "WARNING - DO NOT TRUST ANY RESULTS FROM THIS BUILD OF SAGE" to a prerelease but not for a stable Sage version evokes that we can trust all the results from the stable one. But I'm sure there is still one bug to be fixed even in a stable Sage version.

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-03 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:29 AM, slabbe wrote: > > Hi, > > My feeling is that adding the sentence > > "WARNING - DO NOT TRUST ANY RESULTS FROM THIS BUILD OF SAGE" > > to a prerelease but not for a stable Sage version evokes that we can > trust all the results from the stable one. > +1. It definit

[sage-devel] Re: Warnings on development releases

2009-08-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Aug 2, 2009, at 11:52 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Aug 2, 11:19 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> >> If there were only pre-release versions of Sage available, and no >> stable >> release, then a less prominent message may be ok. But when there are >> stable releases, and someone is u