[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello !! With this release I cannot building the doc ends with this : [calculus ] Exception occurred: [calculus ] File "ecl.pyx", line 337, in sage.libs.ecl.ecl_safe_eval (sage/libs/ecl.c:4352) [calculus ] RuntimeError: ECL says: Module error: Don't know how to REQUIRE MAXIMA. [calculus ] The f

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:11:21 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > New beta is out now, get it while its hot ;) > On two OS X 10.9 machines, I'm getting timeouts on some doctests. Here is a sample of the output from "make ptestlong": -

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-07 Thread Volker Braun
These are all due to the Singular interface.. I also see them relatively often but usually its only one or two that fail. There was a bug in pexpect that got fixed in beta3, maybe you can try that version and report back. On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:42:41 PM UTC+1, John H Palmieri wrote: > > >

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:49:43 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > These are all due to the Singular interface.. > > I also see them relatively often but usually its only one or two that > fail. There was a bug in pexpect that got fixed in beta3, maybe you can try > that version and report ba

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-08 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-06-07, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:49:43 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> These are all due to the Singular interface.. >> >> I also see them relatively often but usually its only one or two that >> fail. There was a bug in pexpect that got fixed in beta3,

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-09 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:09:50 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:49:43 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> These are all due to the Singular interface.. >> >> I also see them relatively often but usually its only one or two that >> fail. There was a bug in

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-09 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, June 9, 2014 1:50:17 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:09:50 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:49:43 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: >>> >>> These are all due to the Singular interface.. >>> >>> I also see them r

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-09 Thread Volker Braun
Thanks for the investigative work! Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can and will occasionally (rarely) be interleaved with the stdout. Did I mention that I hate pexpect ;-) -- You received this m

[sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, June 9, 2014 3:55:52 PM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > Thanks for the investigative work! > > Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as > often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can and will > occasionally (rarely) be interleaved with

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Francois Bissey
Would need the maxima build log as that kind of stuff means that building maxima.fas and installing it failed. Francois On 26/05/2014, at 22:41, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello !! > > With this release I cannot building the doc ends with this : > > [calculus ] Exception occurred: > [calculus ]

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Would need the maxima build log as that kind of stuff means that building > maxima.fas and > installing it failed. O_o I do not remember the install saying that anything went wrong... O_o Will give you this asap. Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Ralf Stephan
sage -f ecl, followed by sage -f maxima did it for me. On 26 May 2014 12:41, "Nathann Cohen" wrote: > Hello !! > > With this release I cannot building the doc ends with this : > > [calculus ] Exception occurred: > [calculus ] File "ecl.pyx", line 337, in sage.libs.ecl.ecl_safe_eval > (sage/libs/e

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread John Cremona
I had the same problem. As I was in no hurry I just did a distclean (doc-clean was not sufficient). John On 26 May 2014 11:58, Ralf Stephan wrote: > sage -f ecl, followed by sage -f maxima did it for me. > > On 26 May 2014 12:41, "Nathann Cohen" wrote: >> >> Hello !! >> >> With this release I

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> sage -f ecl, followed by sage -f maxima did it for me. Did the job for me. Thanks ! :-) nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-release" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Peter Bruin
Alternatively, build with SAGE_UPGRADING=yes (this will check dependencies and reinstall Maxima after ECL has been updated). Peter Op maandag 26 mei 2014 13:23:37 UTC+1 schreef Nathann Cohen: > > > sage -f ecl, followed by sage -f maxima did it for me. > > Did the job for me. Thanks ! :-) > >

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Alternatively, build with SAGE_UPGRADING=yes (this will check dependencies > and reinstall Maxima after ECL has been updated). What is the reason for not making this the default ? Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-release" group. To un

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:17:18 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > Alternatively, build with SAGE_UPGRADING=yes (this will check > dependencies > > and reinstall Maxima after ECL has been updated). > > What is the reason for not making this the default ? > Lazyness? -- You received this m

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Lazyness? You are not lazy, and neither am I. Do we change that ? It seems that setting this to False does not help in any way, least of all if it is the default behaviour. My problem is that I do not know how to change such things. Do you ? Nathann -- You received this message because you a

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: Alternatively, build with SAGE_UPGRADING=yes (this will check dependencies and reinstall Maxima after ECL has been updated). What is the reason for not making this the default ? I cannot currently edit your ~/.bashrc (nor your ~/.sage/sagerc *) ... Whether we should mak

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile has been > discussed a couple of times in the past years, and IIRC most agreed we > should do so, but so far even 'sudo open a ticket' failed. I really do not know how such things are changed ... Nathann -- You received this mess

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile has been discussed a couple of times in the past years, and IIRC most agreed we should do so, but so far even 'sudo open a ticket' failed. I really do not know how such things are changed ... E.g. by simply a

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> E.g. by simply adding the lines > > SAGE_UPDGRADING ?= yes > export SAGE_UPGRADING I know how to fix "my" problem, I just don't know how to fix Sage. > (And I originally only wanted to add an additional target 'upgrade', setting > the variable to 'yes' and depending on 'build'. When 'yes' is t

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:39:33 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile has been > > discussed a couple of times in the past years, and IIRC most agreed we > > should do so, but so far even 'sudo open a ticket' failed. > > I really d

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Open a ticket and someone might feel less lazy :) I don't believe in opening tickets without writing the patch and setting them to needs_review :-P Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-release" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: E.g. by simply adding the lines SAGE_UPDGRADING ?= yes export SAGE_UPGRADING I know how to fix "my" problem, I just don't know how to fix Sage. To the top-level *Makefile* that is. ('?=' is not [ba]sh syntax AFAIK.) (And I originally only wanted to add an additional

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, May 26, 2014 4:14:56 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > Open a ticket and someone might feel less lazy :) > > I don't believe in opening tickets without writing the patch and > setting them to needs_review :-P > Set them to "blocker". That will get the release manager attention.

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yoo !! >> Why would we need a buggy upgrade script ? > > Backwards compatibility. And I personally don't want ATLAS to get rebuilt > just because someone decided to change the spkg-install script of readline > such that Python gets rebuilt upon which unfortunately ATLAS depends, just

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: (And I originally only wanted to add an additional target 'upgrade', setting the variable to 'yes' and depending on 'build'. When 'yes' is the default, I don't know what the opposite target should be called; 'quick-and-dirty-upgrade-not-really-rebuilding-dependent-packages'

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: Yoo !! Why would we need a buggy upgrade script ? Backwards compatibility. And I personally don't want ATLAS to get rebuilt just because someone decided to change the spkg-install script of readline such that Python gets rebuilt upon which unfortunately ATLAS

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Volker Braun
You have my attention. We can of course wait with any future releases until somebody fixes this. In an ideal world we would have reliable library versioning, so you wouldn't need to rebuild maxima UNLESS the ecl library version changes in an incompatible way (which can be read off from the name

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-26 Thread Ralf Stephan
I have reread this thread and I'm asking myself if the ecl upgrade shouldn't have simply bumped the package-version.txt of maxima at patchlevel, thus forcing a rebuild. I mean the author of that ticket surely had the same fail when testing, and the reviewer too? Please tell what I'm missing. Reg

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:02:20 AM UTC+2, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > I have reread this thread and I'm asking myself if the ecl upgrade > shouldn't have simply bumped the package-version.txt of maxima at > patchlevel, thus forcing a rebuild. I mean the author of that ticket surely > had the same

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread P Purkayastha
On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:08:19 PM UTC+8, leif wrote: > > Nathann Cohen wrote: > >> Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile has > been > >> discussed a couple of times in the past years, and IIRC most agreed we > >> should do so, but so far even 'sudo open a ticket' f

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread Ralf Stephan
John Palmieri recently helped me with a ticket (#16350) where the spkg-install of a package was changed but that was not enough to trigger the necessary rebuild. That could be accomplished by adding '.p0' to the package-version.txt because patch level changes don't change the actual version string

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread leif
P Purkayastha wrote: On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:08:19 PM UTC+8, leif wrote: Nathann Cohen wrote: >> Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile has been >> discussed a couple of times in the past years, and IIRC most agreed we >> should do so, but s

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread leif
Ralf Stephan wrote: John Palmieri recently helped me with a ticket (#16350) where the spkg-install of a package was changed but that was not enough to trigger the necessary rebuild. That could be accomplished by adding '.p0' to the package-version.txt because patch level changes don't change the

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread Peter Bruin
Hello, John Palmieri recently helped me with a ticket (#16350) where the > spkg-install > of a package was changed but that was not enough to trigger the necessary > rebuild. That could be accomplished by adding '.p0' to the > package-version.txt > because patch level changes don't change the ac

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:09:11 AM UTC-7, leif wrote: > > P Purkayastha wrote: > > On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:08:19 PM UTC+8, leif wrote: > > > > Nathann Cohen wrote: > > >> Whether we should make it the default in the top-level Makefile > > has been > > >> discussed a co

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-05-27 Thread leif
John H Palmieri wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:09:11 AM UTC-7, leif wrote: P Purkayastha wrote: > Just use "sage --upgrade" Yes, that's what ordinary users should use (and developers /pulling/ a new [devel] version, instead of 'git pull ... && make'). I just tried this: I w

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-07 Thread leif
John H Palmieri wrote: On Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:11:21 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: New beta is out now, get it while its hot ;) On two OS X 10.9 machines, I'm getting timeouts on some doctests. That's presumably because it's no longer hot. Do you also get (the same?) timeouts when rer

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread John Cremona
On 9 June 2014 23:55, Volker Braun wrote: > Thanks for the investigative work! > > Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as > often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can and will > occasionally (rarely) be interleaved with the stdout. > > Did I men

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread leif
John Cremona wrote: On 9 June 2014 23:55, Volker Braun wrote: Thanks for the investigative work! Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can and will occasionally (rarely) be interleaved with the stdout.

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread John Cremona
On 10 June 2014 09:53, leif wrote: > John Cremona wrote: >> >> On 9 June 2014 23:55, Volker Braun wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the investigative work! >>> >>> Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as >>> often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can an

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread leif
John Cremona wrote: On 10 June 2014 09:53, leif wrote: John Cremona wrote: On 9 June 2014 23:55, Volker Braun wrote: Thanks for the investigative work! Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution, maybe it doesn't fail as often but it cannot work all the time. The terminal echo can an

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread John Cremona
On 10 June 2014 10:23, leif wrote: > John Cremona wrote: >> >> On 10 June 2014 09:53, leif wrote: >>> >>> John Cremona wrote: On 9 June 2014 23:55, Volker Braun wrote: > > > Thanks for the investigative work! > > Using the terminal echo isn't really a solution,

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.3.beta2 released

2014-06-10 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:53 AM, leif wrote: > R isn't used in Sage library code AFAIK. > There is one place in sage/stats/r.py which basically go away and be replace by an rpy2 call. > Not sure whether the library interfaces offer the full functionality [yet]. rpy2 can do everything what R ca