RE: [SA-list] Running Servers Alive as a Service

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
There are a couple of possibilities: * run the service as system account with desktop interaction and specify a username/password for the remote checks that need authentication * run the servie as a domain account -> interface will NOT be loaded and can't be called (as you don't have desktop int

[SA-list] Running Servers Alive as a Service

2007-03-26 Thread mdoyle
Can someone point me to a link that describes how to run Servers Alive as a service? I've been tinkering with this a bit today and not making much progress. I've tried setting the service up to start automatically using the local system account and enabling the service to interact with the

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Maybe someday. But this is not part of the make-over I was asking about. You're asking for a new feature... Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:51 PM To: Servers Alive

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Michael Shook
But, can it be done? Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent:

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
You have both group and dependencies, that's correct. But an entry depends on another entry OR is part of a group, not both. So this is not just a GUI change, but a logical change too. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Michael Shook
For me, the biggest impact would be to have 2 different ways of displaying and organizeing the checks. 1) by logical group 2) by dependencies Since you have both these data elements, let the GUI display both. Let me organize by logical group regardless of the physical dependencies, and let me ma

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Vogl, Tom
Dirk, My biggest requests would be this: 1) Separate out the GUI from the check engine. 2) Make the GUI just for handling the config and make it more robust. Let the check engine run as a service and let the GUI be a mechanism to manage the check configuration and

AW: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Thomas Speck
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RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Michael Shook
I wouldn't mind a *nix cron style of schedule input. We use taht elsewhere, so the team is fairly used to it. Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com (http

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Weigold, Greg
PLEASE!?!? From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Irene Warden Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:51 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over Hi Di

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Ronald Stamper
Ohh please for the love of god yes! Also would it be possible to make a changes wizard that allows us to clt+click or shift click, aka “highlight” multiple entries then click on a “MASTER EDIT” button that would pull up a normal edit window that would be blank, and anything we enter in that

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Tobie Fysh
I’ll second that! From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Irene Warden Sent: 26 March 2007 12:51 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over H

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Irene Warden
Hi Dirk When you are filing in the "Schedule" information, would it be possible to type in the actual times for the schedule, rather than try to select tiny little boxes? My eyesight seems to be getting worse by the day, so I really struggle to see what times I've selected using the current

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dolinar, Jon
In the schedule tab when you mouse over or maybe select a square could it display the time you have actually selected somewhere? That seems to be the hardest part of the gui figuring out the tiny little schedule boxes. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAI

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Mark Perry
You can still make changes using find/replace in a text editor though if not running beta. Making the obvious backup of oringial config first :) Only downside is you do need to restart the app or services as you then don't have direct access to the service / apps as config is cached internally.

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Mark Perry
To be fair I can't see that Dirk was being curt he was simply saying that many of the enhancements suggested were new features, that is not to say thay they would be ignored and not addresses but I believe the point was to ask for cosmetic suggestions and possibly examples. Features can always be a

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
In the "changes wizard" you can select to make to change on * all entries * all entries of checktype * all entries that are member of group * all entries were server name is (<- added after the release of v6 I think, so that is within the beta only) Di

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Steve Davis
Doesn't this just blanket change username and/or password? I have a mix of different credentials for different networks. Will they all get reset or can I choose which checks to apply them too? Steve -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
With the "changes wizard" you can update the username/password/authentication. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:31 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [S

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Steve Davis
Fair point - 80% of my checks are domain servers though and this would require me adding credentials to at least another 200 checks. Now, if we had a credentials manager :-) this wouldn't be such a daunting task. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PR

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
1) If you run it as local system account you can authenticated towards other remote systems too, that's why we provide the option to have a username/password for the authentication. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Tobie Fysh
Steve, Sorry mate but you are wrong, run as local service with desktop integration and supply credentials for each check, we do it, have a dedicated account for SA to use so you can audit logons and all works fine. Kindest regards Tobie -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Steve Davis
Dirk, 1) You cannot run the service with desktop interaction unless it runs as localservice. If it runs as localservice it cannot authenticate with any other windows servers. To be able to autheniticate with other Windows servers, the service needs to log in with a local or domain account and then

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Petr Bohac
Might be a new feat but it is falling under the GUI ... Could we have some button which shows only red alerts? -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:01 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
1. The GUI IS the service or IS the app, so it's interacting directly. If you run the service as system account with desktop interaction and call the gui via the system-tray icon then you're working directly on the service. 2. That's not a gui change that's a totally new feature 3. That's not a

RE: [SA-list] GUI make-over

2007-03-26 Thread Steve Davis
1) My biggest bugbear with the GUI is the fact you can't interact directly with the service. If running as a service I'd like to be able to go in and make changes but I have to stop the service, fire it up as an APP, make changes, shut down app, restart service. 2) Make if fully manageable via a w