Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: I write backports for EPEL and Repoforge from Fedora, and use a Fedora test environment to make sure my older packages will be forward compatible. The shift in init script management is going to be *fun*. Most of my linux users use Ubuntu rather tha

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:39:45AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Konstantin Olchanski > wrote: > > > > Another boring shuffle, yawn. ... > > It's not a boring shuffle. The systemd change will be a major one. > RT11->BBC basic->MSDOS->VMS->IRIX->Linux->WinNT->SunOS->Linux

Re: nfs client outbound ports

2012-04-09 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Elijah Buck wrote: Hello, I have an NFSv3 server that allows mounts from unprivileged ports, and a SL6 NFS client with untrusted users (but root is trusted). I want to prevent users from mounting the NFS share from an unprivileged port. My hope was that I could put iptable

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread zxq9
On 04/10/2012 02:22 PM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Bring popcorn. Fedora 17 is getting rid of /bin and /sbin, replacing the directories with symlinks to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. And don't be surprised if F18 merges "/usr/bin" and "/usr/sbin". This i

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Bluejay Adametz wrote: >> >> Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess they >> use Fedora as a thermometer. > > I wonder just how much the user base overlaps between Fedora and RHEL. > > Around my little part of the world, the overlap is z

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Adrian Sevcenco > wrote: >> On 04/09/12 23:10, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >> > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> >> >> It's RH's right as a distribution to decide to make us choo

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > The NetworkManager bug report for bridging is: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546197 > > and for bonding is: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540995 Thanks but this isn't bonding as is understood in creating NIC redun

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > On 04/09/12 22:36, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Konstantin Olchanski >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:03:33PM -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote: On 04/09/2012 12:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > That's

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> It's RH's right as a distribution to decide to make us choose between >> vi and nm-connection-editor > > Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess th

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Bluejay Adametz wrote: > > Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess > they use Fedora as a thermometer. > > I wonder just how much the user base overlaps between Fedora and RHEL. > > Around my little part of the world, the overlap is zero

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread zxq9
On 04/10/2012 10:22 AM, Bluejay Adametz wrote: Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess they use Fedora as a thermometer. I wonder just how much the user base overlaps between Fedora and RHEL. Around my little part of the world, the overlap is zero. The operations

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Bluejay Adametz
> Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess they use > Fedora as a thermometer. I wonder just how much the user base overlaps between Fedora and RHEL. Around my little part of the world, the overlap is zero. The operations I support would never be candidates for a shor

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Schanzle
On 04/09/2012 04:55 PM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: Given that rc.local does NOT work in F16 [snip] Umm, Adrian - are sure about that? Note /etc/rc.d/rc.local (not /etc/rc.local). $ systemctl -a | grep rc.local rc-local.service loaded active exited/etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibili

Re: iptables + vhost access

2012-04-09 Thread Terry Northren
Hi again, on Apache server, how do I allow users to access files in their home folders?

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > On 04/09/12 23:10, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> > >> It's RH's right as a distribution to decide to make us choose between > >> vi and nm-connection-editor > > > > Well, within l

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 05:57:29 PM Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 09, 2012 03:24:33 PM you wrote: > > Sadly, last time I saw every guide on how to setup virtual machines > > (KVM) in bridge configuration started with "turn off network manager".. > > Sadly, this is true even of the officia

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 03:24:33 PM you wrote: > Sadly, last time I saw every guide on how to setup virtual machines > (KVM) in bridge configuration started with "turn off network manager".. Sadly, this is true even of the official upstream documentation. The NetworkManager bug report for bridg

Re: iptables + vhost access

2012-04-09 Thread Terry Northren
Hey Tam, great help! I followed your suggestion and finally got my vhost authentication setting worked. Sorry about the confusion. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Tam Nguyen wrote: > Your question is not really clear me so I am interpreting it as 2 > different questions. First, your iptabl

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
On 04/09/12 23:10, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> It's RH's right as a distribution to decide to make us choose between >> vi and nm-connection-editor > > Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess they use > Fe

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
On 04/09/12 22:36, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Konstantin Olchanski > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:03:33PM -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote: >>> On 04/09/2012 12:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: That's right. Nm manager gui or vi. Our way or the highway. So you arr

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > > It's RH's right as a distribution to decide to make us choose between > vi and nm-connection-editor Well, within limits. Otherwise you have user rebelions, etc. I guess they use Fedora as a thermometer. > in the same way that it decided

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:44:42PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: >> On Monday, April 09, 2012 12:31:39 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:40:02AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: ... and the current NetworkManage

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:03:33PM -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote: >> On 04/09/2012 12:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >>> >>> That's right. Nm manager gui or vi. Our way or the highway. So you arrive >>> to a remote location >>> to fix

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Lamar Owen! On 2012.04.09 at 13:35:36 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote next: > In 2004, when NetworkManager first came on the scene, the opposite was true, > where any network connectivity required either distribution-specific tools or > text editing of config files, regardless of network technology

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Ken Teh wrote: >>> TUV needs an option in kickstart to turn off NM for designated cards. >>> Btw, >>> NM_CONTROLLED="no" in ifcfg-eth0 is not sufficient.

Re: iptables + vhost access

2012-04-09 Thread Tam Nguyen
Your question is not really clear me so I am interpreting it as 2 different questions. First, your iptables' syntax looks fine to me. Maybe someone in the forum will see something I may have missed. As for your HTTP configuration, the order is mismatch. Because you have: Order allow,deny > All

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Andras Horvath
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:39:49 -0700 Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 07:15:54PM +0200, ... wrote: > > > > livecd-iso-to-disk --format > > --reset-mbr /path-to-iso/SL-62-x86_64-2012-02-06-Install-DVD.iso /dev/sdc > > > > > This ought to be > "dd /path-to-iso/SL-62-x86_64-201

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 01:39:49 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > This ought to be "dd /path-to-iso/SL-62-x86_64-2012-02-06-Install-DVD.iso > /dev/sdc". If would be pretty nice if dd if=install.iso of=/dev/usb-stick worked indeed, but that's not quite there yet.

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 07:15:54PM +0200, ... wrote: > > livecd-iso-to-disk --format > --reset-mbr /path-to-iso/SL-62-x86_64-2012-02-06-Install-DVD.iso /dev/sdc > This ought to be "dd /path-to-iso/SL-62-x86_64-2012-02-06-Install-DVD.iso /dev/sdc". As I understand, Linux Mint ISO images alread

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 01:18:37PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 09, 2012 12:48:44 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > (I hope some day the SL installer will learn how to install RPMs from a > > directory > > instead of from an ISO image. On this happy day we will gain the ability to

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 01:02:00 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > As I say, > people who come up with this stuff do not think beyound "it works on my > laptop". In 2004, when NetworkManager first came on the scene, the opposite was true, where any network connectivity required either distribut

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:03:33PM -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote: > On 04/09/2012 12:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >That's right. Nm manager gui or vi. Our way or the highway. So you arrive to > >a remote location > >to fix broken network config and find that the mouse walked away, too, > >wel

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 12:48:44 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > (I hope some day the SL installer will learn how to install RPMs from a > directory > instead of from an ISO image. On this happy day we will gain the ability to > customise the installer by adding and removing packages as we wish

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Andras Horvath
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:09:25 -0700 Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 06:55:18PM +0200, Andras Horvath wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:48:44 -0700 > > Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > Since all the wiki pages about installing live usb creators, etc > > > bore me ... > > > >

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 06:55:18PM +0200, Andras Horvath wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:48:44 -0700 > Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Since all the wiki pages about installing live usb creators, etc bore me ... > > I suggest you to take a look at this thread in SL forum: > http://scientificlinuxf

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Pat Riehecky
On 04/09/2012 12:02 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: That's right. Nm manager gui or vi. Our way or the highway. So you arrive to a remote location to fix broken network config and find that the mouse walked away, too, welcome to vi. or nmcli Pat -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux Developer

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:44:42PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 09, 2012 12:31:39 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:40:02AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > > > > ... and the current NetworkManager doesn't handle many production server > > > networking task

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Andras Horvath
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:48:44 -0700 Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:52:00AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On Friday, April 06, 2012 10:16:45 AM you wrote: > > > Can someone explain what the problem is here? I really > > > don't care about creating a live Linux on a f

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:52:00AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday, April 06, 2012 10:16:45 AM you wrote: > > Can someone explain what the problem is here? I really don't > > care about creating a live Linux on a flash drive, just want to > > install without burning a D

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 09, 2012 12:31:39 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:40:02AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > > ... and the current NetworkManager doesn't handle many production server > > networking tasks, > > so upstream left the existing mechanism in place so choice is a

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:40:02AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > ... and the current NetworkManager doesn't handle many production server > networking tasks, > so upstream left the existing mechanism in place so choice is available. > No, they have not. In SL6, they have removed the old graphical

Re: 6.2 install -

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, April 06, 2012 10:16:45 AM you wrote: > Can someone explain what the problem is here? I really don't > care about creating a live Linux on a flash drive, just want to > install without burning a DVD but nothing I have tried so far > has met with success. I

iptables + vhost access

2012-04-09 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Terry_N?=
Hi, after so many attempts of unsuccessfully restricted and allowed specified domain from accessing my vhost, I tried the firewall. Firewall did not work. Not sure where I messed it up. See below, port 80, REJECT ip_address wasn't working. That IP address was my laptop: HTTP: DirectoryRoot

Re: network manager questions

2012-04-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 05, 2012 08:56:20 PM you wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Ken Teh wrote: > > > Is it true that the network manager service turns off the network when > > there is no activity? No. Only if not configured to be active for all users will it not come up on boot. There m