Re: SL6 won't boot. Is this related to xorg issue?

2012-07-18 Thread zxq9
On 07/18/2012 12:03 PM, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, William Lutter wrote: Wouldn't you know it, I just rebooted my SL6.0 or 6.1 linux PC prior to leaving town for a week and it hangs on all 3 of the available kernels. I see a black screen with white letters Scientific

Re: X11 server won't start after yum upgrade

2012-07-18 Thread Malcolm MacCallum
I downloaded (using Firefox under Windows XP) xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.7-29.el6.i686.rpm xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.7-29.el6.i686.rpm from the 6.1 i386 os filestore, http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/i386/os/Packages/ I then ran rpm with (if I recall well) rpm --oldpackage -i rpm

Re: What's diff btw yum-autoupdate and yum-cron?

2012-07-18 Thread Winnie Lacesso
Stephen_Isard wrote Hope that's helpful. It was very helpful, thank you. The info you cited seems true for SL5, though; SL6 appears quite different. In SL6, root@vm-37-00 rpm -ql yum-autoupdate /etc/cron.daily/yum-autoupdate /etc/sysconfig/yum-autoupdate Whereas yum-cron contains many more

Re: X11 server won't start after yum upgrade

2012-07-18 Thread Malcolm MacCallum
I knew about and used ifup (the device is wlan0). It did not solve the problem. Malcolm - Original Message - From: zxq9 z...@zxq9.com To: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov Sent: Tuesday, 17 July, 2012 11:02:38 AM Subject: Re: X11 server won't start after yum upgrade On 07/17/2012 05:41

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi, On 07/11/2012 03:44 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: I'm perhaps being unclear, An announcemenbt that goes out at the same time as the release itself is not helpful. They've selected as a Mirrors know about the upcoming release well in advance - remember that we seed in excess of 1200 external

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/11/2012 02:01 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it. erm. No. Thats not how CentOS does it. SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they have with each other point release. Would love to see this testing

Re: X11 server won't start after yum upgrade

2012-07-18 Thread zxq9
On 07/18/2012 07:28 PM, Malcolm MacCallum wrote: I knew about and used ifup (the device is wlan0). It did not solve the problem. Wireless can be a bit different. Are you using NetworkManager? If so, what is the output of nm-tool? If not, is wpa_supplicant running on boot? In any case, what is

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread James Holland
On 18/07/12 13:36, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/11/2012 02:01 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it. erm. No. Thats not how CentOS does it. SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they have with each other point release.

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread zxq9
On 07/18/2012 09:36 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/11/2012 02:01 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it. erm. No. Thats not how CentOS does it. SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they have with each other point

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/18/2012 01:58 PM, James Holland wrote: Would love to see this testing process/code documented somewhere and what the implications are. So we might be able to better and improve the process in CentOS as well. Is there a place where you document the CentOS processes? we are starting

SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Semi
1) When the SL6.3 is expected? Centos 6.3 already exists. 2) When I run update from Centos I also updating the release number. For example: from Centos 5.2 yum update I'll get Centos 5.8 and SL doesn't raises the release version ?

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hey! On 07/18/2012 02:00 PM, zxq9 wrote: I'm sure Connie or Pat would be the people to ask about the QA process and probably happy to discuss is -- the site/wiki isn't always the focus at SL, it seems (forums aside, I think a lot of us here read/edit your wiki over at CentOS for non-dev

significance of indicating root partition location in bot process

2012-07-18 Thread anuraag chowdhry
Hi all, in the following print from grub.conf: title Scientific Linux (2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686 ro root=UUID=8ea0b46d-4a99-4e10 -a40b-6c265ae4a09e what is the above root= line indicating and what is the significance of this in the

Re: significance of indicating root partition location in bot process

2012-07-18 Thread Mark Stodola
On 07/18/2012 08:37 AM, anuraag chowdhry wrote: Hi all, in the following print from grub.conf: title Scientific Linux (2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686 ro root=UUID=8ea0b46d-4a99-4e10 -a40b-6c265ae4a09e what is the above root= line

Re: Different cpu usage between Fedora and SL6 guests

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/17/2012 05:59 PM, zxq9 wrote: On 07/18/2012 07:46 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 07/17/2012 04:17 PM, zxq9 wrote: On 07/18/2012 06:55 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: While staring at top on my kvm server waiting for it to crash, I noticed that my idle Fedora kvm guests appear to be consuming

Re: significance of indicating root partition location in bot process

2012-07-18 Thread anuraag chowdhry
thanks for replying. but the files needed to boot i.e stage1, stage2, initram disk image and kernel are present in boot partition, right? and /boot can be on different hard disk partition too, right? are you referring to /sbin/init or /etc/syconfig/init files that reside in / partition ? if i

Re: Different cpu usage between Fedora and SL6 guests

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/17/2012 09:28 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote: Hi Orion Poplawski! On 2012.07.17 at 16:46:19 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote next: That depends heavily on what version of Fedora they are (particularly Rawhide instances), and what services they are running. Well, I have a Fedora 17 instance

Re: Different cpu usage between Fedora and SL6 guests - SOLVED

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/18/2012 08:56 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 07/17/2012 09:28 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote: Hi Orion Poplawski! On 2012.07.17 at 16:46:19 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote next: That depends heavily on what version of Fedora they are (particularly Rawhide instances), and what services they

Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread James Holland
On 18/07/12 14:24, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/18/2012 01:58 PM, James Holland wrote: Would love to see this testing process/code documented somewhere and what the implications are. So we might be able to better and improve the process in CentOS as well. Is there a place where you document

Re: server crashing out of memory

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/17/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Our SL6.2 KVM and nfs/backup server has been crashing frequently recently (starting around Fri 13th - yikes!) with Kernel panic - Out of memory and no killable processes. The server has 48GB ram, 2GB swap, only about 15GB dedicated to VM guests.

Re: significance of indicating root partition location in bot process

2012-07-18 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:37 AM, anuraag chowdhry eila...@gmail.com wrote: in the following print from grub.conf: title Scientific Linux (2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-131.0.15.el6.i686 ro root=UUID=8ea0b46d-4a99-4e10 -a40b-6c265ae4a09e what is the

Re: server crashing out of memory

2012-07-18 Thread David Sommerseth
On 18/07/12 18:35, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 07/17/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Our SL6.2 KVM and nfs/backup server has been crashing frequently recently (starting around Fri 13th - yikes!) with Kernel panic - Out of memory and no killable processes. The server has 48GB ram, 2GB

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread David Sommerseth
On 18/07/12 15:37, Semi wrote: 1) When the SL6.3 is expected? Centos 6.3 already exists. *sigh* do you read these mails in the thread you just replied to? Again, here's a couple of pointers which might give you a better clue:

Re: server crashing out of memory

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/18/2012 11:32 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: On 18/07/12 18:35, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 07/17/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Our SL6.2 KVM and nfs/backup server has been crashing frequently recently (starting around Fri 13th - yikes!) with Kernel panic - Out of memory and no

Re: server crashing out of memory

2012-07-18 Thread Steven J. Yellin
The fact that both free and total swap are said to be 0kB seems so unreasonable that it may mean I just don't understand the output. Another possibility is that there's a hardware error on the drive containing the swap data, in which case perhaps the computer would stay up after the error

is the drop to fsck visual fixed in 6.3?

2012-07-18 Thread Todd And Margo Chester
Hi All, Any of you working with 6.3 beta know is the bug where you drop to fsck at boot and its gives no visual indication is fixed? (One of these days I am going to just flip the power off thinking it is crashed and ...) Many thanks, -

Re: server crashing out of memory

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/18/2012 01:36 PM, Steven J. Yellin wrote: The fact that both free and total swap are said to be 0kB seems so unreasonable that it may mean I just don't understand the output. Another possibility is that there's a hardware error on the drive containing the swap data, in which case

Re: Different cpu usage between Fedora and SL6 guests - SOLVED

2012-07-18 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Orion Poplawski! On 2012.07.18 at 09:15:39 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote next: Also running powertop and comparing wakeups/sec and general output on guests might give some hint. powertop was a good suggestion. It appears that toggling the Autosuspend for USB device QEMU USB Tablet

Re: Different cpu usage between Fedora and SL6 guests - SOLVED

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/18/2012 02:09 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote: Hi Orion Poplawski! On 2012.07.18 at 09:15:39 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote next: Also running powertop and comparing wakeups/sec and general output on guests might give some hint. powertop was a good suggestion. It appears that toggling

Re: is the drop to fsck visual fixed in 6.3?

2012-07-18 Thread Connie Sieh
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Todd And Margo Chester wrote: Hi All, Any of you working with 6.3 beta know is the bug where you drop to fsck at boot and its gives no visual indication is fixed? (One of these days I am going to just flip the power off thinking it is crashed and ...) Can you please

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Semi! On 2012.07.18 at 16:37:31 +0300, Semi wrote next: 1) When the SL6.3 is expected? Centos 6.3 already exists. *sigh* I like SL mailing lists so much because people here are very thoughtful and there isn't storm of similar questions, irritated people and rude answers like during

Re: is the drop to fsck visual fixed in 6.3?

2012-07-18 Thread Todd And Margo Chester
On 07/18/2012 01:24 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Todd And Margo Chester wrote: Hi All, Any of you working with 6.3 beta know is the bug where you drop to fsck at boot and its gives no visual indication is fixed? (One of these days I am going to just flip the power off thinking

Re: is the drop to fsck visual fixed in 6.3?

2012-07-18 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Todd And Margo Chester! On 2012.07.18 at 13:50:13 -0700, Todd And Margo Chester wrote next: I don't know the exact number, I think it is 27 reboots, your boot will automatically drop to an FSCK. In RHEL5, your would see a status bar showing you progress. In 6, you get no

Re: is the drop to fsck visual fixed in 6.3?

2012-07-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/18/2012 02:50 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote: I don't know the exact number, I think it is 27 reboots, your boot will automatically drop to an FSCK. In RHEL5, your would see a status bar showing you progress. In 6, you get no indication that an FSCK is happening and you think you

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Federico Alves
I used to have RHEL subscription for years, but they suddenly changed the services available, and guess what, I used to have access to email support, now there is no more basic support. So what they are trying to do is charge for the updates and block access to the knowledge base, which is made

Re: X11 server won't start after yum upgrade

2012-07-18 Thread Joseph Areeda
Thank you Malcolm. I'm runn 64bit but I'll bet I can find something close that might work. Joe On 07/18/2012 02:11 AM, Malcolm MacCallum wrote: I downloaded (using Firefox under Windows XP) xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.7-29.el6.i686.rpm xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.7-29.el6.i686.rpm from the 6.1 i386

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread zxq9
On 07/19/2012 06:15 AM, Federico Alves wrote: I used to have RHEL subscription for years, but they suddenly changed the services available, and guess what, I used to have access to email support, now there is no more basic support. So what they are trying to do is charge for the updates and

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread Federico Alves
You are wrong in all directions. Dell resells RHEL subscriptions, for a little over $300 x server, but they are not otherwise involved or provide any services, just sell it any client that has a Dell account. Until last year, Red Hat provided real support, via email, and it did work. I solved a

Re: SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-18 Thread zxq9
On 07/19/2012 09:52 AM, Federico Alves wrote: You are wrong in all directions. Dell resells RHEL subscriptions, for a little over $300 x server, but they are not otherwise involved or provide any services, just sell it any client that has a Dell account. Until last year, Red Hat provided real