I agree with the character Maxwell Scott in the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty
Valance": "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
~rave!
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/access-hollywood-movie-misquotes.html
Top Ten Lasting Movie (Mis)Quotes
by Access Hollywood May 13, 2009
LOS AN
In order of enjoyability and repeat watchability, I'd rank these films as Star
Trek, Angels and Demons, and Wolverine. Trek is good scifi. Angels and Demons
is a bit slow in spots, but a decent thriller. Wolverine was actually boring,
the CGI and FX too obvious, and it had the same lobotomized s
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2587&p=.htm
Weekend Report: `Angels & Demons' Lights Up, `Trek' Maintains Thrust
by Brandon Gray
May 17, 2009
While Mona Lisa might frown at the more earthly sum, The Da Vinci Code sequel
Angels & Demons uncovered a spirited estimated $48 million on approximate
She was on techtv which merged with G4. They killed off almost all of the
computer focused shows. Now there are just a couple of shows remaining. Most
are low budget.
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:01 PM
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True… I think I have as a reflex, a negative reaction to revisiting old
material and not exploring new material. I had disdain for Trek as well, but
the preview got me
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Okay, now here I'm at a loss. What's the reboot in "Salvation"? Is it out of
synch with continuity from the first two movies or the TV series? I thought it
was in Cameron's vision, just telling a story of John's battle in the future
that hadn't been explored before...
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That's a topic that's long fascinated (no pun intended) me. My understanding is
that Vulcans don't *only* mate ever seven years, just that absolutely *have* to
mate at least once during that time. I think they can have intimate relations
whenever they want--or not. But during that one time it's
So am I.. and I had some disdain when I first heard about the reboot. I
told my husband, he HAD to take me.
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of George Arterberry
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:42 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir
I do agree with you here, Tracey. Martin, it isn't camp at all. It's a good
movie. As I've said ad nauseum, it's just changed a couple of core concepts in
ways I don't like. There are a couple of ha-ha joke scenes that I'd have
written out (Scotty in a transporter incident is silly slapstick), b
(Man's voice) "Male enhancement..."
(Female's wannabe sultry voice) "It increases that special part of a male's
anatomy"
I can't imagine anything worse than that entering my dreams!
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 200
For some strange reason I'm looking forward to this despite Bale and the Fox
excuse to show T&A and sci-fi.
Indeed. Whether it's USA, TNT, History, or SpikeTV, I told my wife one night,
"If I hear that commercial starting with 'Male enhancement' one more time I'll
scream!"
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From: "Mr. Worf"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:07:48 PM GMT -05:0
OK, that bothered me, because in my lifelong lust for Mr Spock, PonnFarr
fascinated me and repelled me at the same time. Please forgive me, I’m a
traitor.
But I have a question for you, How did Spock’s mom and dad get in on all those
years.
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
Yes, you did, Exalted List Goddess. I'm tired, and past time for my meds. On
this, I shall bow out.
Fair eventide, one and all.
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That Spock romance thing. He's in ponfar all the damn time now!
Hey--I thought Vulcans only "kissed" in public by rubbing two fingers against
each other!
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From: "Tracey de Morsella"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:34:28 PM GMT -05:00
I used to what Next Generation and some great Anime on their. I never watch now
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:42 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Didn't CNN anchor Erica Hill get her start on G4 TV?
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:52:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek' Director Open To Sequel With William
Shatner Or Khan
I mentioned that. I said…
“They have at least two more movies in them, even if the second is not that
successful . “
. I’m really lost now. How is the success or failure of other SF movies the
fault of Star Trek?
If Hollyweird stays true to form, a bunch of watered down copies will
Sickening!
You know what's drawing my attention on cable more nowadays? The History
Channel with "Battles BC", "Bible Battles", and "Life After People"...Discovery
Channel with "The Universe"...Cartoon Network with "Batman: The Brave and the
Bold", "Ben 10", "Secret Saturdays" and "Camp Laslo"
LMNAATWO
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From : Keith Johnson
To : scifinoir2@yahoogr
Camp was not introduced into Star Trek by Abrams, but by Roddenberry, and it
has appeared from time to time in all the other Treks. I hope I do not offend
you Martin, but I do not think you can speak knowledgably about the mix of
seriousness versus camp in the movie, without seeing it.---not in
Don't smile yet, Martin. In the new Abrahamic Trek universe, the Webb telescope
will probably be hijacked by renegade Andorians (now loosened on the galaxy
since the demise of Vulcan).
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2
Mr. Worf, I don't always sleep well at night, mostly owing to soem of ther
nastier interactions I deal with because of the meds I have to take. Having
those same commercials airing at all times freaks me out, because I can drop
off, sleep for three hours and awaken to the same infomercial.
Another thing that I find disturbing is the amount of infomercials at night.
Sometimes it is the same 2 or 3 commercials all running simultaneously. Last
night I was hard pressed to find something on tv.
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> Mr. Worf, I *used* to watch G4. I sto
Pardon me -- another e-mail in another pane made me Send too soon... this
possibility worries me because of J__l Sr's butchering of the
Bat-franchise. Because of his efforts to introduce camp into them, Bat movies
were laughed out of H'Wood until Chris Nolan's offering.
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Tracey, what happens if (*when*, IMO) the second Trek movie doesn't do as well,
and that, as I'm afraid will occur, the chances of more Trek (or possibly
*other* SF movies, hoping to get launched onto the big screen) are damaged? Who
do we blame? Abrams, for starting this? H'Wood, for buying int
Mr. Worf, I *used* to watch G4. I stopped for precisely the reasons you stated.
What's next? E! starting to air original political programming?
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I'd forgotten all about the "S-Word"-like show, Mr. Worf. Right now, I really
wish that all of the good stuff still on CN, especially "The Brave and The
Bold" (which I'm really starting to love) could be co-opted to another network,
leaving CN to the slow decline it seems to have devoted itself
Anyone here watch G4 tv? Remember how it was two years ago? It was video
games, electronics, and behind the scenes shows of video game making. Now it
is reruns of Cops and Cheaters all day long.
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> If Mr. Worf doesn't mind me answering for him,
Amazing! i don't even think they deserve the name "SyFy". Why didn't they just
go with something generic like "Beyond", which was an early contender? At least
then we wouldn't have to deal with the laughable incongruity of wrestling,
Punked-type shows, and reality crap on a station whose name ev
Which statement are you crying about. That I liked the red shirt death, That I
LOVE Galaxy Quest or That I like the Spock romance?
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:22 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I am smiling right now...
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Date : Sun, 17 May 2009 22:33:01 + (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Yeah, it's called the Webb teles
I meant to typify the show's "scavenger hunt" nature, not "treasure hunter"
nature...
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From: "Keith Johnson"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:20:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek' Director Open To Se
If Mr. Worf doesn't mind me answering for him, Keith, there's this
soon-to-arrive dreck. Thought that "Ghost Hunters" was the end of the horror?
No...
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/promotion_landing_page/theothersiders/index.html
Martin (putting cotton balls in ears, in anticip
They are doing a ghost hunting show, and something similar to survivor. I
think that there is one more as well. It may be to get kids interested in
things outside of the house though. I just don't want to see them turn into
mtv. :(
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Yeah, it's called the Webb telescope, scheduled for launch in four years:
http://webbtelescope.org/webb_telescope/
The James Webb Space Telescope is NASA's next orbiting observatory and the
successor to the Hubble Space Telescope. A tennis court-sized telescope
orbiting far beyond Earth's m
I beg to differ regarding this trek being a flash in thpan, regardless of
whether you like it on not, or if a series will make it . This is an
envigorated Franchise. They have at least two more movies in them, even if the
second is not that successful
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mail
I saw a bit of it and I think Amazing race is good. It is the exception
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:21 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek' Director Open To Seque
Et tu, Tracey? If I drank, I'd be crying in my cups right now :(
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From: "Tracey de Morsella"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:17:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Best Red Shirt Death EVER!
It was
I missed first run. I missed a lot of them first run, but eventually caught
them on DVD or TV
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:54 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Martin
The only reality show that's consistently given rave reviews by critics and
fans is "The Amazing Race". I've watched very little of it, but it's more fun,
more intelligent, and more "real" seeming by far, due to its treasure hunter
nature.
And something I find very intriguing about "The Amazin
(standing ovation)
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From : Keith Johnson
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I think BSG isn't a good
Well put. I can't argue a bit of what you said. Let me sum up my position
succinctly:
I really like the Star Trek movie, but am bothered by the unnecessary changes.
I respect and even look forward to the fact that it will spawn new films and
perhaps new series. But I will always miss and be sa
Well, said, and I can relate to everything you said in this movie. If only ten
of them and five series hadn't preceded it...
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From: "ravenadal"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:55:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2
Thanks, Keith. I didn't know that.
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From : Keith Johnson
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
There's an infrared tel
I think BSG isn't a good example, because it's a solid 70s franchise that had
only a small cult following. Even hardcore scifi fans like me weren't invested
in BSG. It hadn't spawned several series, movies, hundreds of books, etc. It
wasn't in the cultural zeitgeist like Trek. And as I pointed o
In recent days, my obstinate refusal to bend regarding "Star Trek" has made
many of you question my state of mind.
Here is where I make many of you, particularly those owning Y-chromosomes,
question that no longer, by asking this question.
WHO?
Further, allow me to say with pride that, in almo
Say what?? Please elucidate!
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From: "Mr. Worf"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:08:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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Even the cartoon ne
My fear as well...
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:54:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek' Director Open To Sequel With William
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Keith, I really
There's an infrared telescope being planned for the next few years, but I don't
think its scope is as vast as Hubble's. At least, not in terms of including
pics from the visible part of the EM spectrum.
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Tracey, yes, I have. Watched it whenever it came out on video, and I checked it
out both times it aired on Skiffy/Siffy during the Trekathon. I've seen them
all now, since catching Nemesis for the first time a couple of months ago on
AMC. That, I could've done without, even knowing the eventual
I saw that. :-).
That reminds me about a funny scene in the movie where Scotty was talking
about when he tried the long distance transport on Archer's dog. When they
asked how it worked, Scotty said something like "I'll tell you when he
reappears".
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From: scifinoir2@yaho
Considering how Hollyweird makes decisions about series, I hesitate to
disagree, but let me give you an argument for why Trek stands a better chance
than most.Here is why.
Both Abrams and Fuller get different promises for their shows than most other
producers get for their scifi shows. T
I think one of the most underdeveloped species was Species 257. I really liked
the little of the mythology of the species that they gave us
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:37 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups
I was watching the new Burger King commercial where the KINGons beam into a
young man's apartment and beam out with his both his Star Trek commemorative
glasses and his girlfriend. Once they are gone he looks down at his
neutralized dog (frozen in mid snarl) and says sarcastically, "Nice work,
It was wild. My husband and I did the same thing - great minds. Great
tribute death to all red shirts. I guess if had a brief moment of being the
"plucky comic relief" - any Galaxy Quest Fans here? I hope the give us a
great one in the sequel
I too really liked the Spock Uhuru connection.
I know. This is very similar, only the fan base in more dedicated, much
larger and has over 30 years of creative source material. So the resistance
should not be that shocking
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of George Arterberry
Sent: Sunday, May
You have not seen First Contact? I really liked that one.
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Martin---I'm Coming For you!!!
Oh, a
Argh!! I HATE REALITY TV!
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:23 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek' Director Open To Sequel With William
Shatner Or Khan
Ok:
But if you are coming let me know, so I can rent some dvds J
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Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:20 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Martin---I'm Coming For you!!!
As a long-time but not current subscriber, I anticipated this selection as soon
as Barack Obama was elected President. Like Obama, Ida (pronounced ee-da ) has
African ancestry (she was born in Tanzania) and one Caucasian parent (her
father). Unlike President Obama, Ida is not the first black P
I believe we are at a Trek impasse.
Here's where I find your position ironic. If not for the Abrams reboot, there
wouldn't even be a serious discussion about a possible new Trek TV show. No one
would be considering it after the horribleness of the last two series and the
failures of the last co
I don't have a problem with them creating a new reality for Trek if they stick
with the new canon. If they are going to reach over into the old universe to
pick up William Shatner--what was the point of abandoning it?
I always like new takes on stories. But I don't want to see the new darker
The pont is, though, DS9 is another thread in the broad canvas that was that
Trek universe. It was completely different in tone from anything that came
before or since. It veers a great deal from Gene's vision, but it was a logical
development, told logically, of a time of war. It is not *the* T
Folks balked at a Battlestar Galactica remake.
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From: tdemorsella
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Star Trek' Director Open To Sequel With William
Shatner Or Khan
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 7:52 PM
I waited until my 20 year-old son returned home from college to see the new
Star Trek movie with him this weekend. Apparently, the movie is still going
strong, at least at the upscale IPIC theater where we saw it in adjacent
reclining Barcaloungers. We were unable to get adjacent seats at eith
Oh, and Tracey -- the last Trek movie I saw first-run was "Wrath of Khan".
Everything since was on video or cable.
As for my resistance to see this one... it's my Little Voice talking. Despite
every persuasive argument I've had handed to me, it still says, "No." And I
trust it. Last time I igno
(sighing sadly...)
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From : "Mr. Worf"
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Even the cartoon network is doing
When you walk out of the room for two minutes and return to see an e-mail
titled thusly, one's first instinct is to buy a one-way ticket...
Tracey, odds are that I wouldn't watch a series out of this, not out of
protest, but because, of late, I tend to choose the series I watch based on the
tea
Even the cartoon network is doing multiple reality shows starting in June.
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
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Naught but truth in that, Mr. Worf. Reality TV costs less and makes money. :-(
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From : "Mr. Worf"
To : sci
They also don't like to spend money on them. Look at how many scifi shows
that were started and canceled mid-season or after only one season in the
last 4 or 5 years. Some had really good ratings. Out of all of them, Lost
and Heroes, and are the only survivors.
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Mar
Keith, I really don't think that a series spun off from this movie would
succeed. (Not me being negative again, folks.) H'Wood has a track record of not
following through on series. We can sit here for weeks, rattling off the names
of great series that died too soon because the networks that car
There was talk about time wars in the last series (Enterprise). I haven't
seen the new movie yet, but they could mine that for material.They could
also make up new characters as well.
I would love to see the origins of the Borg. Or the species 257 from the
Voyager show.
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Keith, I'm with you all the way on this. These days, H'Wood seems to be fixated
on remaking the classics with an eye toward "re-invigoration", making the
subject matter more relevant to the fans of today (read people 16-25, who buy
the lion's share of tickets). In pandering to them, yes, they ma
I hate to say it, Keith, but, when Hubble finally breaks down beyond repair,
nothing will go up to replace it. Lots of weird little projects fluttering
around, and the money just won't be there for Hubble, which has already proven
itself as being worth far more than any other project running, IM
Exactly, Daryle. In DS9, Quark gave us the now-infamous
"Federation-as-a-glass-of-root-beer" analogy. Maybe that's what appealed to me
about it, as much as the characters.
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