Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Justin Mohareb
Count me as no longer watching. Season one was going well, but it ran out of gas at the end and season two was almost unwatchable. I think my wife I still have half of season three on our PVR, alone, unwatched and unloved. Justin On 2009-09-21, at 9:57 AM, Keith Johnson

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Wow, sounds like what I've heard from others. Wonder what the problem is? I know there have been lots of changes to the creative team, due to people taking other jobs, and due to creative differences resuling in poeple either getting sacked, or leaving voluntarily. - Original Message

[scifinoir2] Nigeria bans District 9 - demands apology

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
http://io9.com/5363286/nigeria-bans-district-9-demands-apology My son and I saw District 9 and, being oblivious to some not-so-subtle prejudice and slander against Nigerians and a former Nigerian President, we simply(?) enjoyed it as a dystopian SF meditation on apartheid and illegal

[scifinoir2] Re: Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
My problem with Heroes is that it always premieres on the same night as Monday Night Football (you gotta have priorities!). So I end up taping it, stockpiling a bunch of episodes and, eventually, erasing them because I need the space on my DVR. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,

[scifinoir2] Kirby Estate to Marvel Movie Studios - We Want It Back!

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
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[scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
http://io9.com/5363196/do-dc-and-marvel-need-a-special-victims-unit One of my pet peeves in all fiction but especially in television/soap opera fiction (where one would be hard-pressed to name a single major female character who has NOT been raped or date raped) is the near obligatory

RE: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella
They have some of the schizophrenic identity issues that Enterprise issues. Some of the same things we discussed yesterday are happening. Poorly developed characters, villains and storylines that go nowhere. It’s a big mess. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

[scifinoir2] SF Parent Alert: Cloudy Is The Cherry On Top Of This Summer

2009-09-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella
http://io9.com/5363018/cloudy-is-the-cherry-on-top-of-this-summer After an early helping of movie disappointment this summer followed by a second course of much better from D9, Cloudy http://io9.com/tag/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs/ With A Chance of Meatballs is the sweet cherry on top of

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread George Arterberry
Ravendal,   I do the same thing.But to be honest outside of Sylar , the other characters are just not interesting. --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Re: [scifinoir2] J.J. Abrams Says 'Star Trek' Will Boldly Go Allegorical

2009-09-21 Thread George Arterberry
I hop e the reboot fleshes out those ealry TOS storylines that were only alluded to: The first Earth/Romulan War, and the like. --- On Sun, 9/20/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] J.J. Abrams Says 'Star Trek' Will Boldly

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that one of the things that bugs me about some scifi shows is that they often get into ridiculous situations because of a lack of planning. Then they have to rally all of their friends and allies to solve the problem. It is a bit predictable and frustrating. So over time the plot doesn't

RE: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
The question arises -- who does the actual policing? During 52, if memory serves, Superman was under Max Lord's mental control. What if he'd compelled Supes to attack women? (Answering my own question, sort of -- Batman, even though he was under a mental compulsion of his own. And raising a

RE: [scifinoir2] SF Parent Alert: Cloudy Is The Cherry On Top Of This Summer

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
I know I want to see it, along with my niece. Would've taken it in this weekend, had tiem allowed. Hoping for the next. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

RE: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Then I didn't, and won't, miss anything. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 21

Re: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Daryle Lockhart
And now, my display of geek kung fu. *stance* GL polices Batman, which is why Bruce hates Hal so. Only the Corps can effectively be everywhere at once, which is Bruce's dream situation. Hal let everyone down by giving into his emotions, but only a Green Lantern can effectively keep

Re: [scifinoir2] J.J. Abrams Says 'Star Trek' Will Boldly Go Allegorical

2009-09-21 Thread Augustus Augustus
George, i totally agree with u.  i would love 2 see how the federation and the romulans met up.  in the books, kirk's father disappears while on a mission where he meets his first romulan.  he thought he was a vulcan, but later learned differently.  kirk's father and the romulan became pretty

RE: [scifinoir2] Kirby Estate to Marvel Movie Studios - We Want It Back!

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
At face value, I'm saying Good luck with that, heirs of Kirby. I've always wondered why the various productions Marvel allows of its properties are so dissimilar to the comics themselves. In many cases, there's so little to link the movies to the properties that any lawsuit might be laughed

RE: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Your geek kung-fu is much more powerful than mine... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Mon,

RE: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Honestly, Keith, not a whit. I even change the channel if I fall across a commercial for the show. I'll probably begin watching it in two years, when it lands in syndication, just to see if I actually missed anything. Which I doubt'll be the case. If all the world's a stage and all the people

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
This brings up a question that I heard on the radio last night. Is scifi dying? Has writers in modern times forgotten what really makes scifi tick is not a dependence on gadgets or powers but the story behind it. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Maneuvering to the side of the geekfu artists. This article does touch on a lot of different issues that seem to rarely be discussed. Nor followed up on. I remember reading that Wonder Woman was raped a couple of years ago. I don't follow the comic but I have been wondering if she had any

Re: [scifinoir2] Nigeria bans District 9 - demands apology

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that if I was Nigerian I might be offended by the film, but then again I cringe a little every time I see a black gansta on screen. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://io9.com/5363286/nigeria-bans-district-9-demands-apology My son and I saw

[scifinoir2] FRINGE S02E01 - A New Day in the Old Town [1 Attachment]

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
For the people that missed the first episode last week. SPANISH SUBTITTLES ATTACHED IN SEPARATE FILE You'll need Pando to open this attachment. Get Pando free

[scifinoir2] The Mailman's Last Day

2009-09-21 Thread Augustus Augustus
THE MAILMAN'S LAST DAY It was the mailman's last day on the job after 35 years of carrying the mail through all kinds of weather to the same neighborhood. When he arrived at the first house on his route he was greeted by the whole family there, who congratulated him and sent him on his way with

[scifinoir2] Re: Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
Wait a minute! Are you asking Who watches the Watchmen? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: The question arises -- who does the actual policing? During 52, if memory serves, Superman was under Max Lord's mental control. What if he'd compelled

[scifinoir2] H. G. Wells birthday, today

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
As anyone who has googled today knows: today is H. G. Wells birthday. ~rave!

[scifinoir2] Dead Like Me Finale: Haunted

2009-09-21 Thread Kelwyn
I saw this, the final broadcast episode of the original SHOWTIME series, this past weekend. Haunted seems to encapsulate all the deadpan charm and whimsy of the series by juxtaposing a milquetoast serial killer over a Halloween night and having the no-so-merry reapers collect the victim's

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
that's funny! - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:53:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care? My problem with Heroes is that it always

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Unconsciously guilty as charged. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:05:16 +

RE: [scifinoir2] H. G. Wells birthday, today

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
rave, despite repeated googling today, I did *not* know that until seeing this post in my inbox. And, just to add my personal touch of synchronistic weirdness on it, I've spent most of my time in out of the rain working on a time-travel story I've had in my head for the last ten years. Martin

RE: [scifinoir2] The Mailman's Last Day

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Now... I worked for the Post Office for several years, and I didn't get that kind of retirement package. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

RE: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
I think that Wonder Woman was raped, but I'm not sure, as I haven't read her book in ages. As for a superhero therapist, I suspect that that might make for a nice little Wildstorm mini-series. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
And my last post reminded me that there is sort of a superhero police force already. The Boys, a Wildstorm/Dynamite book from the mind of Garth Ennis. This is one scary outfit. Keep wanting to pick up the book, but never remember to do so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_%28comics%29

RE: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
I do believe that, Mr Worf. heck, even *I* forget it sometimes, and I say so to everyone I meet who rails against the genre. My Last Ex and I had our first fight over SF. I couldn't convince her that it was all about ideas. She only saw Star Wars, Trek and the show I was then watching every

RE: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Too quick with the Send. Addendum -- she only saw the flashing lasers and the zippy spaceships, not the deep thought and moral/ethical implications of the work. Not even LeGuin's Earthsea works could move her away from her stance. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players,

Re: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
So true. Thank goodness, in television nowadays, though, that kind of assault is diminishing in popularity. I remember in the soap world, the famous Luke and Laura love story was billed as one of the greatest of all time--despite the fact Luke was a former mob hitman who'd assaulter Laura

Re: [scifinoir2] J.J. Abrams Says 'Star Trek' Will Boldly Go Allegorical

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
The first Earth/Romulan war took place a century *before* Kirk and Spock's era, and sometime after Archer's time as Captain of the Enterprise, so the movies shouldn't be dealing with it. Of course, now that they've jacked up the timeline, maybe there'll be a second war between the two

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
true - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:20:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care? I think that one of the things that bugs me about

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Sorry to hear that, but I guess I will catch up on season two on the Net... Let me know how this season is, if you watch it - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:19:15 PM GMT

Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns--Does Anyone Care?

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
It may get watered down here and there, especially in America. But there's always good fare from countries like the UK and --despite its racist angle--District 9. We have the great Mexican directors like Del Toro and Cuaran (sp?). I do think american scifi is a bit weaker in terms of more of a

Re: [scifinoir2] Nigeria bans District 9 - demands apology

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
I'm not a Nigerian, and I was extremely offended by their portrayal in the film. i spoke to a guy from the Ivory Coast, and his response was a sanguine, Oh well, everywhere you go in Africa or Europe, that is the opinion about Nigerians. Still doesn't make me feel any better at an

[scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

2009-09-21 Thread Keith Johnson
I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support. And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I

Re: [scifinoir2] Nigeria bans District 9 - demands apology

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Unfortunately, they are the source of the bank account scam that has been going on for over 30 years now. I wonder where all that money goes? But I agree. That bothers me about folks attitude about an entire race of people. Black (asian and mexicans, hell, just about every race) people here

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

2009-09-21 Thread Mr. Worf
I think a lot of it has to do with the republicans using the distrust of the media to their advantage. It is something that has been gaining momentum since regan was in office. He would make a sly comment or gesture as if it were an inside joke. Now we have the same thing going on and it is