Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Omari Confer
Stoic is the main reason Pirates plays better than Sweeny Todd(and the fact that there are pirates...but i digress) On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > I disagree that stoic won't play to modern audiences, but that's a convo > for another day. I already ranted about m

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I disagree that stoic won't play to modern audiences, but that's a convo for another day. I already ranted about my frustration with all this "modern audiences won't" talk earlier. Either way, my main questions really are based on how true to the source material Ritchie's film was. I had a

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Removes Macmillan Books

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
And this is another reason why I will never go totally to eBooks. Like any other kind of tech, it puts you at the mercy of the content provider. If I want a book from a publisher that's got beef with another company, i can still easily go to a bookstore, or (gasp!) the library and get a hard cop

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I didn't know that about the film cost, but even with alternatives, almost no one shoots in B&W nowadays. As for the effect of taking out some color, that's becoming more common. Movies like Terminator Salvation, Where the Wild Things Are, and The Book of Eli use those techniques to wash a lot o

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Don’t hold be to this. But Chris said there is no talk of 8 that he has heard of, but he has not done any work there since July. I tend to believe them, because someone we know there would have been saying something. Everybody seems to be buzzing about 7. He has a friend right below Balmer.

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Omari Confer
Stoic wont play to modern audiences in the way they wanted. Unless your making a Merchat Ivory filmcomplicated is the way to go. The protag needs to be vulnerable and unstoppable.Downy is perfect. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > But back to my point, is Holmes

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I used to recruit for them back in the day. Back then they had a very high retention rate. Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a similar impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do not start their own thing stay forever. Most of the people I meet there h

[scifinoir2] Amazon Removes Macmillan Books

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Black and white film is extremely expensive to develop now, because there are only a couple of places in the world (on a pro level) that still does it. The process uses mercury (toxic) and silver in it. $1k per 1 foot was the last quote I heard. What a lot of people are doing now is shooting in co

Re: [scifinoir2] Another racist camera?

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Thank you for pointing that out! (and for your story) I got into photography a couple of years ago and I can tell you that there is VERY little information on shooting people of darker skin. The imagery that we see is all geared toward light or white skin tones. All of the techniques from the old d

[scifinoir2] Star wars clone wars??

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
This week's episode was very cool, but now I'm confused. The Mandalorians are a new race of characters to the show, but the armor is very similar to Bobba Fett's armor. They are also mercenaries. I am wondering if the writers are playing around with canon here. They seem to be at the minimum relate

Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are supposed to be a "secret." After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
Thanks for the info. It's been years since I've seen a movie about Holmes. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:20:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock

Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Watching that episode prompted me to finally watch Inglorious Bastards last night. Not the best movie. I think the biggest complaints I have heard about the film was the pacing. My biggest complaint was the incomplete storyline and that there wasn't much historical facts to what happened. A nice r

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
My husband says that the release dates always slip out and they know they will. It is so common place that these leaks are pretty much included in the planning of the release. If you think back over the years, we have always had a heads up on the release dates From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
They are already saying he was combative, lecturing, overconfident…… However, The initial reaction was less on message, it may stick. But I’m not holding my breath. In the short-term, it was a glorious sight From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and overworking the Microsoft crew. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2]

Re: [scifinoir2] movie: The bad lieutenant?

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Its not a remake of the original, but the title is the same. At least that is what the quotes are on IMDB. I think that they started out making a remake then got lost along the way and decided to do something else. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > No, Mr Worf, for prec

Re: [scifinoir2] Stargate props up for auction

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
SG1 I understand, but was SG Atlantis canceled? On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Mr Worf, odds are that they've already gone partial green-screen for > Stargate: Universe and I don't really see the need for the producers of the > series to keep the SG-1 and Atlantis pro

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree that would totally change the fox and msnbc news coverage. However this may backfire into the "angry black man" situation that the media seems to love. (MTV loves to use it on Real world.) They may force him in a situation that no matter what he says or does would be wrong or bad. On Sat,

[scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
M$ is pissed! * Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release * Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's product releases schedule for the next three years.

RE: [scifinoir2] RE: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Actually: I agree with Jeff too. The best case scenario in my mind is we lose less of the lesser of two evils at election time. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2; jeffrey

RE: [scifinoir2] RE: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Tracey, we also have to hope that this works its way down to the sheeple in particular. I grant them no political affiliation, because they often go with the tide on issues, when they need to pay attention to the currents and set their rudders firm. Jeff, I couldn't agree with you more. Transp

[scifinoir2] RE: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
They have to finesse it to do it all the time because the Thugs know they got schooled and they know it. Fortunately, since that have been on his case and people are calling for it they may have no choice. It has no effect on the ditto head, they are still saying Obama is lying, even with factche

[scifinoir2] Mega Book Sale News: 50% OFF all books at ARE this weekend only!

2010-01-30 Thread Michelle Lauren
Sorry if I'm interrupting. I saw this on one of my reader groups and wanted to share with other book lovers. All Romance Ebooks is having a sale -- 50% off all books through this weekend! The coupon code is: *SBTBARe1* Site link: http://www.allromanceebooks.com I just used the code and it works

RE: [scifinoir2] Stargate props up for auction

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, odds are that they've already gone partial green-screen for Stargate: Universe and I don't really see the need for the producers of the series to keep the SG-1 and Atlantis props around, as I don't recall seeing any of them in the new show. "If all the world's a stage and all the peop

RE: [scifinoir2] "Wolf" Moon Tonight to be Spectacular--if you can see it

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Might've been an altitude thing. Lithonia is a little higher up than Atlanta. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Sherlock Holmes

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I can't say if this depiction of Holmes' rage in his fighting style is close to accurate in the Conan Doyle tales, because it's been years since I last touched them. Somewhere, I've got the entire collection in e-book format. Would take me from now until the end of Time to find it but, i

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Sherlock Holmes

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, now part of me is going to try to cast the role... _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
??? Not a fan, pal? _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Nothing but truth there. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:14:42 -0800

RE: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
You'll be getting a copy. No, two. One signed, in case I actually do become a writing legend, so that you can put it up on evilBay for big bucks. ;-) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com

RE: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
And that was everyone in the list. :-) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 1

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
I was about to question the "sand" part of that, but remembered that I somehow managed to pass on the new ep yesterday. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: s

RE: [scifinoir2] Question

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
LMNAO "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 201

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
I've never seen any catalog quotes on the prices of the two, but I daresay that gushing is less expensive. ;-) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2

RE: [scifinoir2] Tom Cruise Shocks Oprah (gif)

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
And, if you ask any German about it, they'll be PROUD to say that it was done. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Wouldn't surprise me at all, pal. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:41:

RE: [scifinoir2] that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
I will, Jeff, just as soon as time allows. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for > To: truthseeker...

RE: [scifinoir2] movie: The bad lieutenant?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
No, Mr Worf, for precisely those reasons AND because it's a remake. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.c

RE: [scifinoir2] that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
And I *had* to be away from the TV... thanks for the link, Tracey. I'll be drinking it in at first possible moment. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: dar..

RE: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I've always been able to see Holmes' emotional complexity, regardless of medium. He craves a challenge to drive him forward. Without it, he stalls, and he shows his vulnerability in his addiction to cocaine. Much like Downey, which is why I cheered his casting in the role. The two are li

Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe

2010-01-30 Thread L Freeman
I found it thought provoking. I am wondering if there is ever going to be more explanation of how this dude was still alive and, more importantly, YOUNG, all these years later.  The only change I would have made to the episode was to have Astrid do the takedown. I have often wondered how Nazis

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I think Depp would have been too intense and different in ways that'd have been distracting. He'd make a good Moriarity, though, if done right. - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:13:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Easter

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
But back to my point, is Holmes in the books as emotionally complicated as Downey's portrayal? The movies I've seen all have Holmes are more stoic than Downey. Not a Vulcan or anything, but more controlled. So, do you think Law in the role would have dictated a less demonstrative Holmes? -

[scifinoir2] Re: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Wright Kelwyn
I wish we had British "Question Time" here in American. Then we would get to see President Obama routinely clean the Republican clocks. http://twitter.com/ravenadal http://theworldebon.blogspot.com From: Tracey de Morsella To: " Lockhart, Daryle " ; afrikan

Re: [scifinoir2] Another racist camera?

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
This stuff goes on all the time, and is a combination of ignorance and a type of disregard. Back in the 90s my wife and I paid a lot of money to get portraits made at a fancy place here in Atlanta called Olan Mills. Olan Mills was the place people used for weddings and other important events. Ha

[scifinoir2] Re: that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Kelwyn
I wish we had British "question time" here in America. Obama would routinely clean the Republican clocks. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > I still don't trust the guy, but dayum it was good to see him run circles > around and smack down the Republicans

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I know. Shorts for cell phones and iPhones? I get that tastes change over the generations, that succeeding eras add more violence, nudity, action, sound, etc. I get that new generations thus start out used to more FX, faster action, sometimes less plot. They become inured to the blood and gore

[scifinoir2] Re: What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread B Smith
In another director's hands Law would have been a fine Holmes but like Omari said in Ritchie's hands Downey was an inspired choice. I'm still mad that Law wasn't cast as Ozymandias in Watchmen. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > It was just one of those "What if?" questio

[scifinoir2] that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I still don't trust the guy, but dayum it was good to see him run circles around and smack down the Republicans at their retreat in Baltimore.. As one commenter put it: "that's the !@@#$%$ guy I voted for" view the whole exchange at the link below: http://gawker.com/5460040/video-obama-pati

[scifinoir2] movie: The bad lieutenant?

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Did anyone see this film? This movie bounces somewhere between bad cop film and a twisted pulp fiction wannabe. There are some moments in the film where it gets just weird. Hallucinations of iguanas being one of them. Its like they were intentionally trying to make it into a cult film. Nicholas Ca

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spider-Man 4 definitely in trouble - Villian Dispute

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Baxter
I... I... wait... no. Thought I had a tear in me for them. That was just the flash of a car going up the street behind me. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
It was just one of those "What if?" questions. Just thought I might add a little whimsy into the conversation. :) Sort of like thinking about a Black Han Solo. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Omari Confer wrote: > > > Dep would not work in guy ritchie's version but i can see him in some other

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Omari Confer
Dep would not work in guy ritchie's version but i can see him in some other incarnation. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > I agree. It would have been completely different. There is something quirky > about Downey that makes it work. That X factor thing. > > I wonder if

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree. It would have been completely different. There is something quirky about Downey that makes it work. That X factor thing. I wonder if Johnny Depp would have worked in the role? On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Omari Confer wrote: > > > Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off She

Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in "Sherlock Holmes"?

2010-01-30 Thread Omari Confer
Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off Sherlock. Plain and simple. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > After seeing the movie last Sunday, I was wondering about the casting. > Downey and Law are really good, but why did Ritchie cast them that way? Law, > who's ta