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From: "jna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rowley, Michael (M.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnson, Wayne'"
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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Wireless LAN question
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> You guys might like to check out the isp-wireless mailing list. Your
> discussion would go over well there.
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> Lots of very knowledgeable individuals.
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> Be warned though, you might want to subscribe for the digest, and not
> the real-time list. It is high traffic.
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> Je
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From: "Williams, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:36 PM
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
> It's more true to say that both signals need to be amplified, whether that
happens
te from further away than others, and a gain
antenna (node with a beam or dish) will also increase the distance.
-Original Message-
From: Jason Lewis
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:17
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Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
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> given that "the other wlan
ly 02, 2002 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Wireless LAN question
there was a recent article in 2600 about how to use a pringles can and
for about $5 and some creativity, get 3-5 miles Jmiller
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From: "Christopher Rector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> given that "the other wlan device" is equipped with a directional
> antenna, too..
>
Nope. You can amp your signal and use a directional antenna and the other
end can be using a low power antenna. It is a common belief that both
ends need to use the same antennas or be amplified. This is n
Hi
I have a xair point to point wireless system. It's like 2 boundled single
wireless bridges.
http://www.bintec.net/en/index.php?r=prod/XAir&m=navbar.html&c=index.html
or www.artem.de
It works very fine.
Regards Christian
On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, jna wrote:
> Hello,
>
> All this talk about wireles
Hello,
All this talk about wireless LAN stuff leads me to ask the consortium on the
new UST 22 MBPS Wireless systems. Does anyone have any experiences with
this, is it any good? I am looking to wire my whole neighborhood so to
speak, "Without Wires" and I am looking for wireless solutions the hav
Michael Rowley
Security Consultant
-Original Message-
From: Johnson, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
I doubt it. A GPS device is a receiver, not a transmitter. Unless he
sends his GPS data ov
ssarily reflect those
of my employer.
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Allerdice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:51 PM
To: Johnson, Wayne; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
Here is a crazy and untested idea. Suggestions from readers as to ho
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless LAN question
> You might want to re-think the 100 yards statement, 802.11b has a
> theoretical limit of 21 miles. I know of wireless hotspots that can be
> reached from almost a 1/4 mile away without any external antennas
1, 2002 6:12 AM
> To: 'David Laganière'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
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>
> We are talking about 2 completely unrelated technologies here. Unless there
> is some part of the spec that I don't know about. Besides, you can be
> assured
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:12 AM
> To: 'David Laganière'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
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>
> We are talking about 2 completely unrelated technologie
x27;; 'Tim Donahue'
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Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
In SF. In the hills, the DOC was able to use a directional antenna to hit
networks over 20 miles away.
Sincerely;
Robert J. Lupo
Network Security Engineer
MCSE, CCSA, CCSE, Internet Security C
No need to apologize, were all here to learn from others experience.
That's what this forums all about.
Basics for secure wireless computing.
1. Disable SSID broadcasts.
2. Enable WEP encryption.
3. Use Mac filtering if possible.
4. Know your wireless footprint.
Explanations:
1. By disabling S
> You can do what your trying to do but you might have to
> create some of your own code. For true directional finding (DF'ing)
> you would need a reciever and a doppler DF system that can recieve at
> 2.4ghz (aka the wireless card for the reciever). Netstumbler allows
> you to view clie
Hi,
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tim Donahue wrote:
> Besides, you can be assured that the intruder is within a 100 yards or
> so of the acess point.
no, you can't. with a 24db yagi (directional antenna) i have been able to
connect to wlan access points as far away as 300-400 meters (900-1200
yards) wit
Fax: (214) 853-5045
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:12 AM
> To: 'David Laganière'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
>
>
> We are talking about 2 completely unrelate
Well since its a transmitting/receiving relationship, you need to find the
carrier frequency of the WLAN and perhaps run around with a Field Strength
Meter tuned to this frequency. For this to work properly of course, you'll
need to be able to turn off all the other transceivers. Or else, you will
You might want to re-think the 100 yards statement, 802.11b has a
theoretical limit of 21 miles. I know of wireless hotspots that can be
reached from almost a 1/4 mile away without any external antennas on the
unit. Add a decent directional antenna to the unit and a clear line of
sight and your ea
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
I doubt it. A GPS device is a receiver, not a transmitter. Unless he sends
his GPS data over your network :)
It occurs to me that you could do a little preparation work with a wireless
laptop. By
59 AM
To: 'David Laganière'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
David,
GPS is a passive device, it only listens for timing signals from satellites,
it doesn't transmit. You are left w
>I know work has been done to roughly triangulate a cell phone users
position
>based on signal strength received at 3-4 cell towers (I believe to fulfill
>upcoming 911 legislation). It seems to me you would need 3-4 access points,
>but could do the same thing with 802.11. But somehow I don't think
To: 'David Laganière'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
We are talking about 2 completely unrelated technologies here. Unless there
is some part of the spec that I don't know about. Besides, you can be
assured that the intruder is within a 100 yards or so
Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LAN question
I doubt it. A GPS device is a receiver, not a transmitter. Unless he
sends
his GPS data over your network :)
It occurs to me that you could do a little preparation work wi
We are talking about 2 completely unrelated technologies here. Unless there
is some part of the spec that I don't know about. Besides, you can be
assured that the intruder is within a 100 yards or so of the acess point.
Tim Donahue
-Original Message-
From: David Laganière [mailto:[EMAI
I doubt it. A GPS device is a receiver, not a transmitter. Unless he sends
his GPS data over your network :)
It occurs to me that you could do a little preparation work with a wireless
laptop. By walking around your wireless coverage area you could identify
public areas that have good signal stre
David,
GPS is a passive device, it only listens for timing signals from satellites,
it doesn't transmit. You are left with the wireless NIC, which does
transmit.
I know work has been done to roughly triangulate a cell phone users position
based on signal strength received at 3-4 cell towers (I
Netstumbler Wireless Locator
www.netstumbler.com
CERT Advisery 94-01
http://www.cert.org/advisories/index.html
Robert Grahams Sniffer FAQ
http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/sniffing-faq.html
Christopher Klaus Packet Analyzer FAQ
http://xforce.iss.net/security_library/faqs/packcapt.php
PersonalTelc
Hi,
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, David [iso-8859-1] Laganière wrote:
> Say an intruder connect himself to my wireless LAN, is there a way with
> a GPS and it's signal to know where he is physically? Where can I get
> more documentation on that?
since 802.11b (aka wavelan, wlan, airport network, etc.) u
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