Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-09 Thread Soren Hilmer
On Thursday 09 June 2005 11:58, Danny Angus wrote: > Are you going to ApacheConEU? We could arrange to brainstorm the > implementation details. Unfortunately not ;-( Great, we are totally on the same track then! --Søren -- Søren Hilmer, M.Sc. R&D manager Phone: +45 72 30 64 00 T

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-09 Thread Danny Angus
Soren, > I like your proposal for fastfail, very much in line with my own thoughts. > I only have minor comments. Yeah I think with Noel's comments and your's we seem to be approaching a consensus on this one. Are you going to ApacheConEU? We could arrange to brainstorm the implementation details

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-09 Thread Soren Hilmer
Hi Danny, > > My own idea config would look like: > > > > > > MAIL > > > FROM > > > > 5xx > foo-barred > > > > 220 > OK > > > > > I like your proposal for fastfail, very mu

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
> 550 5.7.1 User unknown Yeah OK. > I think (as I said in past) that allowing full smtp reply code control at > this level will be an error. I don't think it is up to us to dictate how James users chose their installations to behave. OTOH I don't think we need to mandate configuration of respon

DSNStatus (Was: Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail)

2005-06-06 Thread Stefano Bagnara
> By the way, did I miss a patch where you changed the bounce > mailet? I'm seeing the DSNStatus inner class still there, as > well as the new copy of it that is in mail/dsn/DSNStatus. > > --- Noel My DSNBounce is totally different from the one in trunk. Actually I named my bounce handli

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-06 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano, > I wouldn't like the SMTP server to read the "code" that an handler returns > and decide how to behave dependently on the first char of that code. I agree with that concern, which isn't generally exposed in the my version of the fast-fail proposal. In the case where I show a general ca

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-06 Thread Stefano Bagnara
> your configuration example: > > > > > [...] > 220 > > > [..] > > 5xx > > > 220 > > [..] I just added ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES support to james smtp server. So you should take care to add a DSN status to every smtp reply and not only

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-06 Thread Danny Angus
Alexander, your configuration example: MAIL FROM accept 220 ... Looks just fine, very close to what I imagined. What I can't understand is how you could use "Matchers" before you have a complete "Mail". My own idea config would look

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering

2005-06-06 Thread Danny Angus
Noel wrote: > Although the scope of "validation" covers that neccessary to determine that > we will accept the responsibility for delivery, which can lead to some other > things. For example, I would probably configure virtual user mapping within > the protocol handler, which would allow me to r

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alexander Botov wrote: > thanks for the update. It really clarifies the fast-fail mechanism for me. > I have couple of questions (regarding fast-fail): > - Which branch from the svn should I checkout? We've recently moved into subversion and completed a version merger so that trunk/ is the curre

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-05 Thread Alexander Botov
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:10:49 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote > Alexander (and others interested in Fast-Fail), > > Danny has some information on http://wiki.apache.org/james/FastFail > for his proposal. That is one of several that have come up over the > past couple of years. I just posted mine th

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering

2005-06-04 Thread Stefano Bagnara
> I would probably configure virtual user mapping within the > protocol handler, which would allow me to reject unknown > users in-protocol instead of via bounce notices. But this > should be a configurable choice, ideally using the same code. If you run VirtuserTable in the protocol handler

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering

2005-06-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Danny Angus wrote: > In my opinion (There may be some disagreement about where we're going > with this!) Fast Fail is about extending the SMTP protocol to include > validations +1 Although the scope of "validation" covers that neccessary to determine that we will accept the responsibility for de

RE: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alexander (and others interested in Fast-Fail), Danny has some information on http://wiki.apache.org/james/FastFail for his proposal. That is one of several that have come up over the past couple of years. I just posted mine there, too. Danny and I are largely in agreement on on having some for

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail

2005-06-04 Thread Alexander Botov
OK, there are many enthusiastic people out there willing to contribute to James project, so I'm wondering if there is need for more, but still... My name is Alexander Botov and I'm undergraduate student studying computer science in Technical University of Sofia, Bulgaria. I've been using James in

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering - My observation

2005-06-03 Thread Danny Angus
HI, > Handler receives data, and forms > approriate commands and call doXXX to handle these commands. One > possible clustering approach here is to distribute these > commands to different processes (in different JVM as well). We currently assign each socket conenction to a handler and each handl

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering - My observation

2005-06-03 Thread Stefano Bagnara
> Could any developers verify my observations and give some > comments ? I am really interested in implementing clustering > feature for James. I would look here, too: http://sourceforge.net/projects/james-ha/ Stefano - To un

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering - My observation

2005-06-03 Thread Nguyen Trong Hung
I dont know the intention of james clustering proposal but I have been reading james source code for 2 days and trying to find places that clustering can be applied. As far as I know, each Handler of any kind represents socket connection with other party. Handler receives data, and forms approri

Re: Summer of Code - JAMES Fastfail and Clustering

2005-06-03 Thread Danny Angus
I suggest you subscribe to server-dev@james.apache.org and get involved in the discussions there. I don't know anything about the clustering proposal. I think the google summer of code is intended to be a three month "engagement" and I suspect that three months full-time is more than plenty time t