Re: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread André Cantin
Title: Re: ShopTalk: Backweighting I still have a copy of the article. Some of those sets are MOI matched as well. There is a 0 handicap, a 1,6 handicap, a 2 handicap,a 12 or so and a 14 I believe. I have never tried backweighting but apparently it helps the golfer with quick hands or the

Re: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread André Cantin
Title: Backweighting GS also recommends cutting the shaft a 1/2 shorter if using the CForce grip. http://www.golfsmith.com/products/181750 And here is more on the topic: http://www.balance-certified.com/pages.php?page=02/11/19/0150711 Take some leave some.

Re: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Alan Brooks
A 1/2 inch bolt also fits the ID of most graphite shafts and a 9/16 bolt fits the ID of steel shafts. As you said, a couple wraps of electrical tape to tighten the fit works great. Cut the bolt to the length to get the weight you want. I use long bolts to get unthreaded shaft weights. Regards,

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 08:44 PM 8/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think back weighting is all about feel. I have to believe this is the case. That's because there's nothing in physics that says there will be a big difference in result, given the same swing. I've run Max's SwingPerfect program, which uses

ShopTalk: Club Lie

2006-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was asked to take part in a club fitting session. An individual was setting up a custom club fitting business (henry griffin). The mentor was there to show and assist him in club fitting. Long story short is my 5 iron is 61 deg. and after expertmenting I was hitting one with a lie of 63

Re: ShopTalk: Club Lie

2006-08-15 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 8/15/06 10:25:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to come up an alternative in getting the lie changes. I play 5-pw only Go to a clubmaker and have him adjust your present clubs after doing a lieboard test before bending them. The cost should

Re: ShopTalk: Club Lie

2006-08-15 Thread Don M
I had a Henry-Griffitts fitting and bought the clubs, back in ~1998. That experience got me interested in clubfitting and clubmaking. HG sets are quite unique in ways not worth going into now. Anyway, there is a problem with your assumption that changing your lie angle to 63 is going to get you

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Don M
--- Dave Tutelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your belief based on? I'm not baiting you, I'd simply like to know. :-) Fair enough. It's just a gut feeling. I guess it's based on the fact that even among good golfers, a specification or feature that helps or is liked by one golfer,

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Mark A Patton
As a FYI, 1 of the chapters in Jorgenson's book notes that possibly a better club set would be one that matches in Swing Weight, MOI and Total weight. He nuts out how to do this. If you want to get real specific on the measurements (he recommends a Looser fit), he notes backweighting as the

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Alan Brooks
What's difficult to do in the models is to accurately model all of the possible variations in muscle contraction that are possible. Most of the force/torque models in the physics models are relatively simple (constant, triangular, square, sloped, etc.). Whereas we humans can apply a very

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 02:10 PM 8/15/2006, Don M wrote: I guess it's based on the fact that even among good golfers, a specification or feature that helps or is liked by one golfer, hurts or is disliked by another. The human element seems to play such a huge role that attempts to reduce it to science seem to me to

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 04:22 PM 8/15/2006, Alan Brooks wrote: What's difficult to do in the models is to accurately model all of the possible variations in muscle contraction that are possible. Most of the force/torque models in the physics models are relatively simple (constant, triangular, square, sloped,

RE: ShopTalk: Backweighting

2006-08-15 Thread Alan Brooks
Hi Dave, At 06:22 PM 8/15/2006 -0400, you wrote: At 04:22 PM 8/15/2006, Alan Brooks wrote: What's difficult to do in the models is to accurately model all of the possible variations in muscle contraction that are possible. Most of the force/torque models in the physics models are relatively