Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

Randy, > well, actually, the discussion in april was walking around many of the > implications thereof. it is hard to discuss "do we keep/replace > AS[4]_PATH" as it is abstract and draws deep philosophical discourse > with no hard handles on technical decision points. I think you should remove

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

>> well, actually, the discussion in april was walking around many of >> the implications thereof. it is hard to discuss "do we keep/replace >> AS[4]_PATH" as it is abstract and draws deep philosophical discourse >> with no hard handles on technical decision points. > > I think you should remove

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

> i agree. but every time i say AS_PATH someone whacks me with AS4_PATH. > maybe this is why i like the NO_EXPLICIT_PATH :) well, you are normally consistent at asking people to read the documents :-). r. > randy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature _

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

Wed, May 23, 2012 at 06:22:33PM -0700, Wes Hardaker: > Rob Austein writes: > > > For those who didn't get to see the end of the "RPKI Over BitTorrent" > > presentation in today's SIDR meeting, the full slide deck is available > > at > > > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-si

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

> From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Randy Bush > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:09 PM > To: Murphy, Sandra > Cc: sidr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun > > > In the interim in San Diego, there were requests (fr

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

heasley writes: >> This sure smells to me like a solution in need of multicast (or, more >> accurately, "deployed multicast") with a fall back to something like >> bittorrent for bootstrapping or when you've missed session data and >> can't recover. Multicast as a data stream would be much more

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

Thu, May 24, 2012 at 06:36:51AM -0700, Wes Hardaker: > I didn't say only :-) . In fact, I pointed at bittorrent as a backup. I > simply said it would be more efficient when sending out *new* changes. understood; i'm registering/re-enforcing that if that is developed it must not be the only mathod

[sidr] [INTERIM MEETING 6/6] Agenda update

The 6/6/2012 (6/6/2012 for the EU folks or Jun 6 2012) meeting agenda looks like: * aspath not present - implications? - scudder's notes at previous meeting perhaps not all the bugs worked out/considerations made (not just tools, re-figuring the aspath on entrance/exit, ar

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:19 AM, George, Wes wrote: > However, in order to gain any benefit from the location, we probably need to > publicize the interim on the NANOG list, though the window for doing it > before travel plans are made is probably closing/closed. > Wasn't it on the NANOG agenda

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

heasley writes: > Thu, May 24, 2012 at 06:36:51AM -0700, Wes Hardaker: >> I didn't say only :-) . In fact, I pointed at bittorrent as a backup. I >> simply said it would be more efficient when sending out *new* changes. > > understood; i'm registering/re-enforcing that if that is developed it mu

Re: [sidr] [INTERIM MEETING 6/6] Agenda update

An astute reader notes that the original message: (additionally, until a moment ago the wiki doc for the meeting had this text copied/pasted into it...) Had the original timing data (full-day), the space and other constraints dic

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

Wes, On May 23, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > Bittorrent works well for sharing the load, but either requires a lot of > bittorrent start files (whatever they're called), which then becomes > hard to syncronize; or a small number of bittorrent files (one per > aggregation point) that in

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM, John G. Scudder wrote: > Wes, > > On May 23, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > >> Bittorrent works well for sharing the load, but either requires a lot of >> bittorrent start files (whatever they're called), which then becomes >> hard to syncronize; or a smal

Re: [sidr] sidrSlides for "RPKI Over BitTorrent" presentation

At Thu, 24 May 2012 17:11:55 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM, John G. Scudder wrote: > > Wes, > > > > On May 23, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > > >> Bittorrent works well for sharing the load, but either requires a lot of > >> bittorrent start files

Re: [sidr] [INTERIM MEETING 6/6] Agenda update

> * aspath not present - implications? > - scudder's notes at previous meeting > perhaps not all the bugs worked out/considerations made > (not just tools, re-figuring the aspath on entrance/exit, >are there other places where aspath is used/required? >confeds is o

[sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05.txt

The authors have stated that they believe that draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05 "Securing RPSL Objects with RPKI Signatures" is ready for a working group last call. The draft can be accessed at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05 and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-si

Re: [sidr] [INTERIM MEETING 6/6] Agenda update

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>   * aspath not present - implications? >>     - scudder's notes at previous meeting >>       perhaps not all the bugs worked out/considerations made >>       (not just tools, re-figuring the aspath on entrance/exit, >>        are there other pl

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05.txt

a quick read only. and sorry to wait for wglc, but that's life. at least i did not wait for ietf lc :) -- what is "RPSL"? it is not defined, nor is there a cite. -- 2.1. General Attributes, Meta Information in general, the format/syntax of the attribute part of many fields might be specifi

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05.txt

These are my comments on the draft draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05 In the Introduction (Para 3) it says: " A maintainer of such signed database objects MUST possess a relevant resource certificate which shows him/her as the legitimate holder of an Internet number resource" I'm afraid I'm confused o