Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
Biju Chacko wrote: [...] OK, time for a quick, unscientific, politically-incorrect poll: How many brown people on this list have been hassled at security? How many white people on this list have been hassled at security? Those of you who can't fit yourself into one category or other: please go b

Re: [silk] Fwd: *Hit by headlines*

2006-09-05 Thread savita rao
anyone following the newspaper coverage of the Pakistan ball-tampering controversy in cricket? The Hindu headline said 'Hair Needs Conditioning'. For those who dont follow cricket: Hair is the umpire that accused Pak of ball-tampering. On 9/2/06, Nishant Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I went to m

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/6/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't suppose you have even spent Christmas eve in a business establishment or hospital in Bradford in the UK? I don't know why, but I was holidaying in the UK in June and it just never occurred to me to go to Bradford. No, I haven't spent Christ

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/6/06, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, time for a quick, unscientific, politically-incorrect poll: How many brown people on this list have been hassled at security? Once, at Delhi, because some threads that were part of the binding of my passport were frayed. The nice gentlemen

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/6/06, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quick side swipe, eh? ;-) Just a device to increase list traffic. I was planning to put in a after that line, but linguistic scruples overcame me. Ram

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/6/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where did I say that anyone on this list has been blindly critical of something? You didn't. My mistake. Where have I done that? I suspect that you are confusing offline statements I have made with what I have said on this list. I did respond to

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/6/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But in India security agencies need to be able to work in an environment unfettered by political interference and corruption so that known criminal aand known crimianl activity can be curbed. For India the question of Agreed. But any security agency

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread sastry
On Tue September 5 2006 8:43 pm, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: > I have worked for two large employers in India. One was a state-owned > life insurance company, with over a 100,000 employees. The other was a > family-owned business. > > In both, every time a Hindu religious festival came around (wh

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Biju Chacko
On 05/09/06, ashok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: apart from that, i have been detained for shorter durations both in india and in another country in africa ...so i guess the frequency of detentions is quite high. Maybe you're just a suspicious looking character. :-) I've never been hassled at

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Biju Chacko
On 05/09/06, Ramakrishnan Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/5/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By blindly being critical of anti-terrorist action some people in India are > weakening the people within and outside the security forces (in India) who I may have missed some earlier p

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread sastry
On Tue September 5 2006 8:43 pm, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: > On 9/5/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may have missed some earlier posts, but has anyone on this list been > _blindly critical_ of anything, ever? Where did I say that anyone on this list has been blindly critical of so

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread sastry
On Wed September 6 2006 2:00 am, Dave Long wrote: > Is it not preferable for innocents to get away, criminals to get > incriminated, and everyone to be spared from terror? I don't think anyone can argue with this - which is the ideal situation. But let me use this opportunity to try and explain w

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Long
Hindu dominated India has some peculiar problems of its own resulting in a caste system of criminals. Certain criminals always get away, and certain people are always spared from terror. Certain people always get incriminated and another group always is at greatest risk from terror. OK -- no

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Thaths
On 9/5/06, ashok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: in 2000 i was stopped while entering nairobi for carrying a 'day-of-dead tableau' in my luggage (not the george romero 'day of the dead' but the mexican festival of holy communion). the tableau had a bunch of small clay skeletons climbing out of co

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread ashok
i think arbitrary detentions at airports and in airplanes have been happening all the time, its just that we hear about them nowadays because many of the detentions nowadays appear to be triggered by terror perceptions. in 2000 i was stopped while entering nairobi for carrying a 'day-of-dead tabl

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 9/5/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By blindly being critical of anti-terrorist action some people in India are weakening the people within and outside the security forces (in India) who I may have missed some earlier posts, but has anyone on this list been _blindly critical_ of anyt

Re: [silk] India At The Forefront Of Knowledge Commons Debate

2006-09-05 Thread Aditya Kapil
>By just moving the gene, it doesn't mean that somescientist has invented any gene. It is in the commons," she added.I think this is trivializing the effort quite a bit. This is also a clever use of semantics: 'invented' Vs 'discovered'. To 'move' the gene you have to find it first. It can take up

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread sastry
On Tue September 5 2006 5:32 pm, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=593708&page=31&pp=15 Hey thanks for the link, The email (if genuine) basically corroborates what was said when the 12 were interviewed on TV except the "Al Qaeda in Africa" bit shi

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
sastry wrote: > Northwest Airlines has said nothing in public about the incident - other than > stating what the air marshals thought the passengers were doing. If you > Google for passenger misbehavior on aircraft, using cellphones and exchanging Nothing officially. But there's a thread on fly

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread sastry
On Tue September 5 2006 4:42 pm, Anil Kumar wrote: > Third, when the western world is suspicious of Muslims > behaving irresponsibly to choose to deliberately fall into that category is > rank stupidity. But if you insist let it be at your own risk. h... But it's karan thapar isn't it? So be

Re: [silk] security and choosing sides

2006-09-05 Thread Anil Kumar
On 9/5/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:33:04 +0530From: sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [silk] security and choosing sidesTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8On Tue September 5 2006 8:22 am, Krage

[silk] India At The Forefront Of Knowledge Commons Debate

2006-09-05 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
India At The Forefront Of Knowledge Commons Debatehttp://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=389&res=1680_ff&print=0 By Frederick Noronha for Intellectual Property WatchNEW DELHI - What do seeds have in common with software? Or age-oldmedicines with copyright lawyers? And, what's the link between a