On 07-Sep-06, at 7:08 AM, sastry wrote:
But India IS Hindu dominated isn't it? Why fight the fact? One
needs to sit
back, accept it and allow the fact to sink in. The only question I
asked was
was whether the US or UK are Christian dominated or not.
I don't buy that. If it was Hindu domina
On 06-Sep-06, at 9:22 PM, sastry wrote:
But please tell me, how can civil society get involved at this stage?
You may want to talk to organisations like the Alternative Law Forum
(in Vasanthnagar; www.altlawforum.org) and CASUMM (in Basavanagudi;
no website). They make it their business to
On 06-Sep-06, at 6:05 PM, Badri Natarajan wrote:
Yeah, plus Islamophobia. Note that if there had been a reliable
(visual)
way to ascertain if you were Muslim or not, you would probably not
have
been hassled at all at airports. The point being that although
there is
certainly racism & xenoph
A great example of the Butterfly Effect - little actions having big
consequences.
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Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
So far, scopolamine / its more recent variants, and lie detector tests
(which the locals keep calling "brain mapping")
There are a lot of differences between the traditional lie-detector
test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygr
On Thu September 7 2006 8:59 am, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> I'm curious - was this "narcotest" ordered by the government?
Ram everyone in India is now undergoing narcotests and it's all happeneing
here in Bangalore. What I find amazing is that the tapes are actually being
broadcast. Talk abo
On 9/7/06, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So far, scopolamine / its more recent variants, and lie detector tests
(which the locals keep calling "brain mapping") do seem to be admissible
as evidence.
From Wikipedia, on Scopolamine:
The use of scopolamine as a truth drug wa
Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
>
> Is it really possible that Indian TV broadcast someone "confessing"
> under "truth serum", or as they called it, "narco-"something?
>
> Isn't this illegal and anyway not admissible in court?
>
So far, scopolamine / its more recent variants, and lie detector test
On 9/7/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Coincidentally Sharad Pawar was in the news yesterday - also named by Abdul
Rehman Telgi in the Rs 30,000 crore ($6.7 billion) stamp paper scam.
I was watching that tape yesterday on TV.
Is it really possible that Indian TV broadcast someone "confe
On Thu September 7 2006 1:47 am, Badri Natarajan wrote:
> But that's precisely the point - my problem is that I think the
> authorities (both the airline staff and Dutch authorities) massively
> overreacted - basically because these guys had brown skin. If the plane
> had had 12 English football ho
Indrajit Gupta wrote:
You need to speak to my Dad, who's ex-IP (not IPS). Keep about
three hours in hand, though.
Indrajit Gupta
'Ramsharan', 396, TT Krishnamachari Road,
Teynampet,
Chennai 600 018.
+914455511138
+919884375777
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On Wed September 6 2006 10:05 pm, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> At 18:10 06/09/2006, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> > On office expense. A company owned by a secular government. In which
> >
> >case it should either celebrate all festivals equally (and therefore
> >have no time for work) or celebrat
On Wed September 6 2006 10:26 pm, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> shiv, i think you are conflating two rather different types of crime, and
> of criminals. on the one hand, you rightly state that india has a high
> level of corruption, and the rich and powerful can get away with
> crime. law enforceme
>
> Those were just irritants. To behave stupidly, as our twelve heroes did,
> in an international flight, during a particularly tense period, is
> simply asking for it. I don't see what being Muslim has to do with it. I
> think they could just as easily have been from some other corner of
> Ind
I'm afraid I agree with the article. There've been thousands of times, in Indian domestic flights, when either the obviously rich or well-connected have gone on and on with their cell-phones and ignored the cabin crew's efforts at getting them to shut down, or people have disobeyed instructions and
You need to speak to my Dad, who's ex-IP (not IPS). Keep about three hours in hand, though. Nandkumar Saravade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sastry wrote: I am tempted to bleat that it is up to us the public to address the problem. But long before "we the public" can help correct the problem we
shiv, i think you are conflating two rather different types of crime, and
of criminals. on the one hand, you rightly state that india has a high
level of corruption, and the rich and powerful can get away with
crime. law enforcement is clearly soft on the rich and powerful. to claim
_from th
At 2006-09-06 18:35:20 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [...]
Rishab, why on earth do so many of your posts end up with the silklist
address mentioned twice in To:?
-- ams
sastry wrote:
But please tell me, how can civil society get involved at this stage?
The draft is currently with the Drafting Committee, headed by Soli
Sorabjee. It is bound to be put up for comments from the public, once
the Government decides to start preparing for introducing in th
At 18:10 06/09/2006, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> On office expense. A company owned by a secular government. In which
case it should either celebrate all festivals equally (and therefore
have no time for work) or celebrate no festivals at all (which I
personally prefer).
or... admit to being
On 9/6/06, sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
staff. Nevertheless Christmas is celebrated in the workplace with the same
festive cheer and genuine goodwill that it is in any other part of the
country.
As is Onam in Kerala, by all communities, and that is not my point.
I write this to make th
> On Wed September 6 2006 6:06 pm, Nandkumar Saravade wrote:
>> civil society needs to get involved at this stage itself
>> to put in its point of view, especially on issues of police
>> accountability, oversight and complaints redressal. Please visit
>> http://mha.nic.in/padc.htm for more detail
On Wed September 6 2006 6:06 pm, Nandkumar Saravade wrote:
> civil society needs to get involved at this stage itself
> to put in its point of view, especially on issues of police
> accountability, oversight and complaints redressal. Please visit
> http://mha.nic.in/padc.htm for more details.
Th
Badri Natarajan wrote:
Is it correct to say that it is essentially the same problems that plague
the police today? That is, if the report were implemented now, it would
still do a lot of good, right? Or do you think things have changed a lot
in the last 20 years, and we need a different ap
> That is the famous National Police Commission, headed by Dharam Vira.
> The remarkably comprehensive report (in many volumes) came out in the
> early eighties and had it been implemented, would have changed the face
> of law enforcement in India. (Report available at
> http://www.geocities.com/
Badri Natarajan wrote:
IMO, many of the ills the Indian police is guilty of can be traced to
their governance structure. (I am speaking here as an interested
party.) There is an exercise at present to create a new law which will
Wasn't there some kind of famous Commission
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> IMO, many of the ills the Indian police is guilty of can be traced to
> their governance structure. (I am speaking here as an interested
> party.) There is an exercise at present to create a new law which will
>
Wasn't there some kind of famous Commission report from the 70s or 80s
which w
sastry wrote:
I am tempted to bleat that it is up to us the public to address the problem.
But long before "we the public" can help correct the problem we have to
recognise what the problem is and where it lies and not clutch at straws or
take down strawmen. That realisation means sharing
> Are you trying to find out if racism exists? In my personal experience,
> it certainly does. What you get at an airport is a double whammy of
> racism conflated with xenophobia.
Yeah, plus Islamophobia. Note that if there had been a reliable (visual)
way to ascertain if you were Muslim or not,
On 9/6/06, savita rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
anyone following the newspaper coverage of the Pakistan ball-tampering
controversy in cricket?
The Hindu headline said 'Hair Needs Conditioning'.
I read this in the Scotsman but it is somwhat appropriate
considering the content. Nice wordplay.
Eu
Bruce, tell us more? What are employees saying? What about visitors?
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On Wed September 6 2006 11:14 am, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> I hope you are
> not suggesting that an "unfettered" environment for these agencies
> means that they are not subject to executive and political supervision
> for, among other things, preventing human rights violations
I hope you ar
On Wed September 6 2006 11:44 am, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> No, I haven't spent Christmas in a hospital in Bradford. Why would I?
Many areas of Bradford in the UK are Asian/Muslim majority areas. Hospitals
and business establishments often have a large number of Asian Muslim/Hindu
staff. N
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