Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ss wrote, [on 5/2/2008 8:35 PM]: [...] > > But the opposite is not happening to a very great extent - i.e. Indians > learning Chinese. > > > > There's always a problem with generalizing from a small sample[1]. Udhay, I a

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread va
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 2:01 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe that in 50 to 100 years time, English as a dominant language - the English is the most convenient business language today but as far as numbers go Chinese has the highest number of native speakers closely followed by Hind

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ss wrote, [on 5/3/2008 10:23 AM]: Of course they do. That was my intention. Yet another example of irony over ASCII being a lossy protocol. Sorry. I don't understand the point of this exchange. OK. Per the below quoted message, you made a claim that there is a trend of Chinese learning Hind

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Nishant Shah
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:08 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question is, can you live in Bangalore, or Delhi or Mumbai, in any > place > in India and say "I want to learn Chinese" or "I want my son to learn > Chinese" and find the infrastructure to do that? That is possible for > French >

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Nishant Shah
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Aadisht Khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For years - for many decades, Indians have been surprised by Chinese > > > speaking to them in fluent Hindi. Someone wrote about it in the press > > > recently - a Chinese immigration officer welcoming a tourist in

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Saturday 03 May 2008 9:54:12 am Udhay Shankar N wrote: > Of course they do. That was my intention. Yet another example of irony > over ASCII being a lossy protocol. Sorry. I don't understand the point of this exchange. shiv

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ss wrote, [on 5/3/2008 6:08 AM]: On Friday 02 May 2008 8:46:07 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: There's always a problem with generalizing from a small sample[1]. No Udhay. These one off examples also fall into the category of generalizing from a small sample. Of course they do. That was my inten

Re: [silk] Canon L series lens

2008-05-02 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Hi ashok underscore. At 2008-05-02 19:43:22 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am looking for a L Series lens for my Canon... (I'm assuming you mean an L-series telephoto lens.) > Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM > http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100-400mm-f4-5-5-6L-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B7

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Saturday 03 May 2008 6:08:55 am ss wrote: > This is not just a problem of the Chinese language, Replying to my own post. As a long term strategy, India really should be investing a lot more in the study of Chinese and some other languages - especially Spanish (which should easy) I believe t

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Friday 02 May 2008 8:46:07 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: > There's always a problem with generalizing from a small sample[1]. No Udhay. These one off examples also fall into the category of generalizing from a small sample. The question is, can you live in Bangalore, or Delhi or Mumbai, in any pl

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
My approach to this is to find a charity whose goals I like, check out that they're reasonably efficient, and then set up an automatic transfer of a smallish amount every month. This has (at least) two benefits: - The monthly amount "disappears" from my budget without a lot of impact - The cha

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread Supriya Nair
[I find her sense of the "superiority" and "inferiority" of certain classes has a lovely echo in the Indian society of todayand that whole females.and- fate-worse-than-death hypocritical morality, which I see all around me now] Don't you find this is true of all her novels? Every time I read

[silk] Canon L series lens

2008-05-02 Thread ashok _
Hi, I am looking for a L Series lens for my Canon... the one which seems to fit my budget is this one: Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100-400mm-f4-5-5-6L-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B7GQLS/ any first hand opinions ?... is this significantly better than a good Sigma

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Aadisht Khanna
> > For years - for many decades, Indians have been surprised by Chinese > > speaking to them in fluent Hindi. Someone wrote about it in the press > > recently - a Chinese immigration officer welcoming a tourist in Hindi. > > > > But the opposite is not happening to a very great extent - i.e. Ind

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ss wrote, [on 5/2/2008 8:35 PM]: For years - for many decades, Indians have been surprised by Chinese speaking to them in fluent Hindi. Someone wrote about it in the press recently - a Chinese immigration officer welcoming a tourist in Hindi. But the opposite is not happening to a very great

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Friday 02 May 2008 7:45:01 am Jim Grisanzio wrote: > I'm interested in the China/India dynamic in community building, and I > wonder how that changes in the coming years as China embraces more > English. I find the communications issues in China improving but still > challenging, whereas in Indi

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Friday 02 May 2008 7:03:32 pm va wrote: > hmm... would he say the same if (let's say) she were married and her > husband was to leave her alone to proceed to the USA on official work > ?? Once a girl is married - she is "thrown away" - she belongs to the husband's family. Pop washes his hands

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Friday 02 May 2008 6:36:21 pm Deepa Mohan wrote: > My other Austen favourites are P&P While I hated P&P as a textbook ages ago (Didn't bother reading it). I absolutely loved it as a movie (the new version) which I first saw on a long flight 2 years ago. I have since downloaded the movie and

Re: [silk] Crazy English in China

2008-05-02 Thread ashok _
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... two interesting pieces here about "Crazy English" in China: > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/28/080428fa_fact_osnos?currentPage=all > http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/li-yang-and-crazy-english-crazy-like-a-fox/ > I'

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread va
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a 25-year old friend whose father is in the US, and is telling her > mother not to leave her alone for 4 days and go to Chennai, as she > will "go out of control"! hmm... would he say the same if (let's say) she wer

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Deepa Mohan wrote, [on 5/2/2008 6:36 PM]: On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Supriya Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see what you mean about snark SNARK!!! The very word I was looking for. This isn't even close to Turin's personal best as far as snark is concerned. Here's a better example:

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Supriya Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see what you mean about snark SNARK!!! The very word I was looking for. > *beam* It's great to meet you too. I've long been a lurking admirer of your > posts to this list. * head swells up visibly* What have > you b

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ss wrote: > > > My personal choice is to let money slip out to people (usual casual > > workers) who depend on me for some of their income in the first place. > > That's a good idea .. what I tend to do is donate

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ss wrote: > My personal choice is to let money slip out to people (usual casual > workers) who depend on me for some of their income in the first place. That's a good idea .. what I tend to do is donate to a charity that my cousin helps run (a dharmashala / free hostel for the Adyar cancer hospit

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread ss
On Friday 02 May 2008 11:34:46 am Aadisht Khanna wrote: > . Rather than give five thousand >    rupees a month away now, I could invest it, get a return,  and give > larger lump sums later. Which in your opinion would make more sense? >    5. Point #4 also ties up with how much a particular donatio

Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-05-02 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 2 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Though I needed a sudo wvdial rather than a plain wvdial to get it to connect. Add yourself to the dialout (might also be called dip) group. $ sudo adduser `whoami` dialout -- Alok "The one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception a nec

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread va
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Aadisht Khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to pick the list's intelligence on an issue I have been facing. > > CRY approached me this month for a contribution, and I gave them six my father used to donate to CRY and in return they used to send us nice

Re: [silk] QotD

2008-05-02 Thread Supriya Nair
*beam* It's great to meet you too. I've long been a lurking admirer of your posts to this list. I see what you mean about snark, when you said in your first post that it was destructive. It's too unilateral, and that's always a danger in written media. I was reading this old rant

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread ashok _
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Aadisht Khanna: > >2. Having done this, I would obviously like to make sure that my > >donations get the most bang for their buck. This means the efficacy of > the > >charity I am donating

Re: [silk] Charitable Giving

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Long
But I also happen to think that money given NOW is always more useful than more money given later. NOW is when so many people really need it. which follows by exactly the same logic: the "more" money you may give later is, when discounted to net present value, the same as the amount you coul