On 8/20/08 12:58 AM, "Deepa Mohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That brings me to wonder, why capital letters came to be, at all...or, to be
> more precise, why there are capital and "small" letters, some of which
> actually look different from each other? Are there scripts other than
> the
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:54 PM, J. Andrew Rogers <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Most of Europe has lived with this reality for a long time, for better or
> worse. I would make the point that one does not invade a country without
> telegraphing that fact weeks to months ahead of time; there is plenty
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2008 8:27:43 am Balaji Dutt wrote:
> To me atleast, there is a simpler truth underlying the political
> establishment's stance on Kashmir - "you give up land, you give up safety".
> IMO, it's why no expense was spared in fighting Khalistan but the Naxalites
> are ignored, and wh
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2008 8:36:53 am Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> Tell us what it is that you are attempting to *achieve*, and tell us
> why you think others should agree with these goals, and why the
> policy furthers these goals. *That* is a meaningful discussion.
I am stating my opinions. I am not
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On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Balaji Dutt wrote:
I don't agree with the argument of lowered military spending or
generally
lower chances of military buildup. There is a simpler geographical
reality
to consider - as the Capital city of a country with enemies on both
sides,
Delhi is vulnerable
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Well, this is an entirely new argument, and not an unreasonable
> one.
Given the incredibly high standard of the discussion on this issue, I have
to thank you for tolerating my slightly crackpot view on this :)
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VW is in the interesting position of having 3 brands (Skoda, Audi, VW)
> jostling for approximately the same market segment in India.
That's true of VW internationally too. There is a great deal of
overlap between produc
They arent likely to use anything other than their smaller tac nukes, not
when there's every chance that the fallout from even a successful first
strike will reach them very quickly indeed .. not to mention that any
retaliation would leave them, as well, converted into glowing rubble.
[e&oe sensib
"Balaji Dutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't agree with the argument of lowered military spending or
> generally lower chances of military buildup. There is a simpler
> geographical reality to consider - as the Capital city of a country
> with enemies on both sides, Delhi is vulnerable - lo
ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 10:02:30 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 8:34:48 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> >> The purpose of a legal system is to provide utility for the people
>> >> among whom it operates. That is the only goal that deserves
>> >
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Giving up Kashmir would be dumb.
>
> Well, lets consider the positives:
>
> 1) Elimination of a major, perhaps the major, cause of conflict
> between India and a neighboring state.
> a) Lowered military spending.
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 10:17:25 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> i suggest that You try, as an experiment,
> to capitalize those whom You address while leaving yourselves in the
> lowercase. It may be a humbling experience. It was for me.
Not for ME though. i hv no prblm.
Actually capitalization make
Derek Shaffer wrote, [on 8/20/2008 6:11 AM]:
Hi all,
Time for a brief introduction. I've been lurking in this list for a long
time, but have never posted... well, not intentionally. I posted a rant about
Ubuntu a while back on my blog that seems to have been mirrored here, so I
figured I
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 10:02:30 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 8:34:48 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> >> The purpose of a legal system is to provide utility for the people
> >> among whom it operates. That is the only goal that deserves
> >> respect. If the sheet of paper speci
Hi all,
Time for a brief introduction. I've been lurking in this list for a long
time, but have never posted... well, not intentionally. I posted a rant about
Ubuntu a while back on my blog that seems to have been mirrored here, so I
figured I might as well join. :-) Anyway, I'm Derek Sha
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> english spelling is truly idiotic.
> Rather, though the lack of any central authority makes it impossible
> to reform in practice. (It also is the language's main stren
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> english spelling is truly idiotic.
Rather, though the lack of any central authority makes it impossible
to reform in practice. (It also is the language's main strength,
IMHO.)
Perry
>The name of the song translates into "Dance (or perhaps a combination of
> dance and sway) Snake". Broadly, I believe it's talking about the
>environment - "The time of the children of the forest has gone by...".
>Madhu M Kurup /* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit */ mmk222 at cornell dt edu
The ori
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:30 -0700, Thaths wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Madhu Kurup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The name of the song translates into "Dance (or perhaps a combination of
> > dance and sway) Snake". Broadly, I believe it's talking about the
> > environment - "The time
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 22:17 +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> for rishab.
hehe. i think it's a sign of good writing to be able to do 500 words on
an essentially inexplicable quirk of language. although i actually
rather preferred the economist's article [1] on english spelling reform:
"You write pot
Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Consider, for example, an alternate
>> universe in which India integrated with Great Britain in 1950, 96% of
>> the members of parliament at Westminster were representatives of
>>
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Elimination of conflict is a pipe dream since so much of the Pakistani
> identity depends upon being Anti-Indian.
I keep hearing this argument. What are the numbers to support this
claim? And I would be very interested in
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Consider, for example, an alternate
> universe in which India integrated with Great Britain in 1950, 96% of
> the members of parliament at Westminster were representatives of
> districts in the former "colony" (consider
There's also bell hooks, of course.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > That brings me to wonder, why capital letters came to be, at all...or, to
> be
> > more precise, why ther
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That brings me to wonder, why capital letters came to be, at all...or, to be
> more precise, why there are capital and "small" letters, some of which
> actually look different from each other? Are there scripts other tha
Apologies for hitting the list w/ that...
:-/
jb
On Aug 19, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Bone wrote:
Udhay, can I get a copy of this?
jb
On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:02 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
Requires registration. Mail me offlist if you want a PDF of the
article.
Udhay
http://www.mckinseyq
Udhay, can I get a copy of this?
jb
On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:02 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
Requires registration. Mail me offlist if you want a PDF of the
article.
Udhay
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Energy_Resources_Materials/Strategy_Analysis/The_economics_of_solar_power_2161_abstract
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Giving up Kashmir would be dumb.
>
> Well, lets consider the positives:
>
> 1) Elimination of a major, perhaps the major, cause of conflict
> between India and a neighboring state.
> a) Lowered military spending.
>
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 11:47:50AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>
>> > * By 2020, hundreds of billions of dollars of investment capital
>> > will probably boost global solar-generating capacity 20 to 40 times
>> > higher than its current level.
>>
>
Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Perry E. Metzger [19/08/08 13:02 -0400]:
>>1) Elimination of a major, perhaps the major, cause of conflict
>> between India and a neighboring state.
>
> Er no. They'll fight with us and vice versa (and the hawkish bloggers and
> wikipedians on
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That brings me to wonder, why capital letters came to be, at all...or, to
> be
> more precise, why there are capital and "small" letters, some of which
> actually look different from each other? Are there scripts other
"Biju Chacko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> That is not the reason that India is moving forward. "Subservience"
>> never advances anything other than the interests of the rulers, who
>> are inevitably most interested in themselves and not in the
>> people. What is moving India forward is an incre
Perry E. Metzger [19/08/08 13:02 -0400]:
1) Elimination of a major, perhaps the major, cause of conflict
between India and a neighboring state.
Er no. They'll fight with us and vice versa (and the hawkish bloggers and
wikipedians on bharat rakshak.com and the paki equivalent will do the same
Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Perry E. Metzger [19/08/08 11:06 -0400]:
>>1) The South was wrong for contending it had the right to enslave
>> people.
>>2) The North was wrong for contending it had the right to impose
>> itself on the South.
>>
>>I believe the South did i
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> for rishab.
>
> -udhay
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03wwln-guestsafire-t.html
>
> On Language
> Me, Myself and I
> By CAROLINE WINTER
> Published: August 3, 2008
>
> Why do we capitalize the word "I"?
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 11:47:50AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > * By 2020, hundreds of billions of dollars of investment capital
> > will probably boost global solar-generating capacity 20 to 40 times
> > higher than its current level.
>
> I disagree. I think capacity is going to be mor
for rishab.
-udhay
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03wwln-guestsafire-t.html
On Language
Me, Myself and I
By CAROLINE WINTER
Published: August 3, 2008
Why do we capitalize the word “I”? There’s no grammatical reason for
doing so, and oddly enough, the majuscule “I” appears only in
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote, [on 8/19/2008 1:10 AM]:
so can someone give me a rough idea of the lyrics of the song i've had
looping for hours now [1]?
I ordered the CD via a link from phat-phish.com - will report when I
receive it.
Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.diger
ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 8:34:48 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> The purpose of a legal system is to provide utility for the people
>> among whom it operates. That is the only goal that deserves
>> respect. If the sheet of paper specifies actions that on balance harm
>
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 9:16:43 pm Biju Chacko wrote:
> In other words, the official Indian stance is that the wishes of the
> Kashmiri people are irrelevant?
You will have to Google for the official Indian stance.
I found this on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_dispute
> India holds t
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:00 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> legal standpoint. The plebiscite agreement is now defunct for many reasons
>> and can be discarded as a data point in history. Nothing will bring it back.
> I
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:00 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> legal standpoint. The plebiscite agreement is now defunct for many reasons
> and can be discarded as a data point in history. Nothing will bring it back.
In other words, the official Indian stance is that the wishes of the
Kashmiri
Perry E. Metzger [19/08/08 11:06 -0400]:
1) The South was wrong for contending it had the right to enslave
people.
2) The North was wrong for contending it had the right to impose
itself on the South.
I believe the South did indeed have the right to leave -- I just don't
think it had the rig
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 8:34:48 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> The purpose of a legal system is to provide utility for the people
> among whom it operates. That is the only goal that deserves
> respect. If the sheet of paper specifies actions that on balance harm
> people then it deserves to be crumpl
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 8:22:46 pm Biju Chacko wrote:
> I've never understood the kneejerk Indian opposition to a plebiscite
> in Kashmir. Why would a supposedly free and democratic nation object
> to the principle of self-determination? Shiv, perhaps you could
> explain that to me -- since you seem
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The reason why modern India is moving ahead is because it was built up on
>> certain principles. Among these was the subservience of the population to a
>> constitution, no matter how
"Biju Chacko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Of course, if one extends that line of thought further, one would be
> forced to conclude that the American Civil War was wrong -- after all,
> democratically elected governments chose to secede in that case.
I happen to think the US civil war *was* wro
ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 7:43:44 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> That is not the reason that India is moving forward. "Subservience"
>> never advances anything other than the interests of the rulers,
>
> Wrong choice of word. My bad. Respect for the supremacy of the c
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 5:09:08 pm Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
>> geeking out on military maps and geopolitical strategy is a (fun)
>> distraction from the basic question of what people want for themselves.
>
> Not looking at these thing
The main problems I've had with it (and there were a few) are electrical. It
handles very well - I think it's fun to drive.
I've also been in two traffic accidents with it and the other cars had much
worse damage than mine. I'll admit (Massachusetts driving story) that both
times it was my fault -
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 7:43:44 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> That is not the reason that India is moving forward. "Subservience"
> never advances anything other than the interests of the rulers,
Wrong choice of word. My bad. Respect for the supremacy of the constitution
is what I meant when I wro
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Venky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For me, it boils down to this -- if there is a free and fair
> referendum and the people of Kashmir vote to secede, I do not see
> any moral or ethical way I could justify holding them back.
I've never understood the kneejerk Indi
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2008 5:09:08 pm Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> geeking out on military maps and geopolitical strategy is a (fun)
> distraction from the basic question of what people want for themselves.
Not looking at these things is a weakness that is frequently covered up by
clever language - so
"Perry E. Metzger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The other principle that India the modern nation state is that
>> diverse people of many religions and faiths - and this includes
>> Islam CAN live together in one country.
>
> Can, sure. "Are required to" and "are
ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The reason why modern India is moving ahead is because it was built up on
> certain principles. Among these was the subservience of the population to a
> constitution, no matter how faulty and incomplete that subservience may
> appear to be.
That is not the re
You just have to look at the fine examples of Lebanon and Palestine to kind
of predict what's going to happen.
srs
> -Original Message-
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> Of Srini Ramakrishnan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:47 PM
> To: silklist@l
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Venky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Will this reduce the violence in the region? Maybe, maybe not.
> Either has no bearing on the fact that holding a people against
> their will is, at least in my book, a crime.
I suspect it will result in massively increased
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:09:54AM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Krish Ashok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > But the bigger issue is what happens if they do secede and there's a sudden
> > de-escalation in military expenditure. Somebody is sure to pull s
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 09:12 +0530, ss wrote:
> The other principle that India the modern nation state is that diverse people
> of many religions and faiths - and this includes Islam CAN live together in
> one country. The Indian constitution, and the ethos of India the nation state
> does not a
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 03:44 -0700, Thaths wrote:
> I have nothing intelligent to add to this thread. Both Singhvi's and
> Aiyar's articles quoted in this thread talk about the perceived
> ingratitude of the Kashmiris. It oddly echoes the feeling the Han
> Chinese have of being slapped on the face b
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Think the Unthinkable
> Counterpoint | Vir Sanghvi
> August 16, 2008
>
> The exception to this trend has been Kashmir. Contrary to what many
> Kashmiris claim, we have tried everything. Even today, the state enjoys a
>
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