On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:
On a recent visit I noticed that Singapore seems to do this at a
larger scale - where there are a lot of neighborhood outreach programs
that bridge the ethnic gaps. There are weekly meetings, outreach
workers and
I live in Vancouver, which is as ethnically heterogeneous as almost
anywhere maybe even including Singapore. It helps that our millionaires
and criminals are similarly multiethnic. One upside is that we're rapidly
breeding our own Transpacific ethnic group. Another effect, whether
positive or
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13:28PM +0100, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote:
I find bottom posting gauche and insensitive. Its difficult to read,
and I really can't understand why its still relevant today. I
suppose its one of those
And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y
prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will
really smile up there in heaven
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On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:22:11AM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y
prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will
really smile up there in heaven
I make an exception for a few people,
Glomped from the Oct 2011 edition of Vogue India--
Loved that word - glomped. Has a lot of potential. :)
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 06:29, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:
So while you may not want to use anything else, or someone else may not want
to move beyond mutt and emacs (both of which I use and top post with too..) -
there's little or no connection between the client and
I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top
posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly
accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say that
its bad etiquette looks like an excuse to talk down to others and
On Feb 25, 2012 8:40 AM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:
Glomped from the Oct 2011 edition of Vogue India--
This is what Hollywood would be if hip-hop became universally acceptable,
and not a mostly black thing. Unsurprisingly Punjabi hiphop had to happen
of course.
I don't object
On 2/25/2012 6:22 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top
posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly
accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say that
its bad etiquette looks
On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y
prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will
really smile up there in heaven
I've habitually top-posted and interleaved for
On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Chew Lin Kay wrote:
Which also apparently means that all of us are exuberant, boisterously
affectionate affectionate and relentlessly cheerful. That we routinely run
through mustard fields (with dupattas trailing behind, of course). That our
speech is peppered
Let us say, compare them to that family of hillbillies in seven brides for
seven brothers, who use y'all, sonny etc, break into square dances at the drop
of a hat, love to fight ..
--
srs (blackberry)
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On 25-Feb-12 7:37 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette.
Top posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a
commonly accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things.
Trying to say that its bad etiquette looks
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.net wrote:
It's an argument that applies equally well to SMS-speak in email. There's no
loss in semantic content -
O RLY?
after a fashion - so why does syntax matter?
Why does social signalling matter? One geek conceit is
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:52 AM, thew...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top
posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly
accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say
that its bad
Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette /
etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret
knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals are
not aware of?
On Feb 25, 2012 9:38 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb
On 25-Feb-12 9:46 PM, Aditya Kapil wrote:
Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette /
etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret
knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals
are not aware of?
Since this has been
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:
Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive
advertising that occasionally tends to the bizzarre
That the Gmail WebUI doesn't allow any form of threading is still a
sore point. And,
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Aditya Kapil blue...@gmail.com wrote:
Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette /
etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret
knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals are
not aware
On 2/25/2012 8:44 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
It doesn't help matters that the two most commonly used MUAs, Microsoft
Outlook and gmail, all but force you to top-post.
I'm using Thunderbird at the moment and it's also pretty bad. It's
likely that there's some obvious trick that I'm missing,
Apropos to nothing but the subject of this thread, I rarely ever top
post (unless from the mobile) because I used to be a techie and (also)
am used to very long, disconnected conversations within the same email
or post. Which is silly if you think about it but I'm too lazy to
start different
Sirtaj Singh Kang [2012-02-25 23:00]:
I'm using Thunderbird at the moment and it's also pretty bad. It's
likely that there's some obvious trick that I'm missing, but I have a
really hard time trimming quoted messages even in text-only mode.
What kind of problems?
I see you're using
On 2/25/2012 11:42 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
[snip]
What kind of problems?
Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting
indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the
message body. This happens more often near the start of the message, as
if I'm
Sirtaj Singh Kang [2012-02-26 00:15]:
Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting
indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the
message body.
That's odd, because you're replying in plaintext and not HTML. (The
quoting indent that shows up for
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:30:52PM +0530, Deepak Shenoy wrote:
Apropos to nothing but the subject of this thread, I rarely ever top
post (unless from the mobile) because I used to be a techie and (also)
am used to very long, disconnected conversations within the same email
or post. Which is
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 2:15:10 pm Chew Lin Kay wrote:
Throwing a comment out there until I find more brain space to deal with
it--there is diversity of race, there is diversity of religion, there is
diversity of class.
Disclaimer: I ask for forgiveness in advance. I mean no harm, but as I get
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:
Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive
advertising that occasionally tends to the
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 2:15:10 pm Chew Lin Kay wrote:
Throwing a comment out there until I find more brain space to deal with
it--there is diversity of race, there is diversity of religion, there is
diversity of class.
On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:01 PM, ss wrote:
There was a time maybe from the 1800s to the early 1900s where science
actually believed that humans occured in races. Races were not defined on
any
objective metric but usually on physical characteritics like skin color and
shape of nose or
On 26-Feb-12 12:15 AM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting
indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the
message body. This happens more often near the start of the message, as
if I'm deleting some hidden
On 26-Feb-12 8:28 AM, John Sundman wrote:
I've come to a few (entirely non-original) conclusions, among them that
the toxic mix of the institution of African slavery, the Civil War
its aftermath, and evangelical so-called Christianity combined to form
a toxic racist contamination that this
If you include the parts of the message you are replying to, and
interleave your responses, I find the GMail model works pretty well. I
hated it when I first encountered it (and hated that I couldn't
delete messages) but now I find it natural.
But you can, no? I suspect you already know but
On 26-Feb-12 9:01 AM, Deepak Shenoy wrote:
But you can, no? I suspect you already know but if I pull down that
little down arrow on the top right hand corner of an individual
message inside a thread I get a delete option for only that message
(not the whole conversation)
The delete option in
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote:
If you include the parts of the message you are replying to, and
interleave your responses, I find the GMail model works pretty well. I
hated it when I first encountered it (and hated that I couldn't
delete messages)
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:28 AM, John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote:
I like to consider myself an enlightened non-racist, but I confess that I
I used to think I was non-racist too, once. Now I'm just depressed by
how many of my prejudices keep crawling out and surprising me. You'd
think a
On 26-Feb-12 9:19 AM, Biju Chacko wrote:
I find that the older I get the harder it is to maintain all my
illusions about myself. Which is too bad, because my illusory self is
way cooler
Don't take it so hard. At least you have cool relatives.
Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @
On 2/25/12 10:45 AM February 25, 2012, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
On 2/25/2012 11:42 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
[snip]
What kind of problems?
Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting
indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the
message body.
On 2/25/12 11:12 AM February 25, 2012, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
Sirtaj Singh Kang [2012-02-26 00:15]:
Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting
indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the
message body.
That's odd, because you're replying in
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
On 26-Feb-12 9:19 AM, Biju Chacko wrote:
I find that the older I get the harder it is to maintain all my
illusions about myself. Which is too bad, because my illusory self is
way cooler
Don't take it so hard. At
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote:
I also use Thunderbird (as a downgrade from Eudora), and it is exactly this
sort of hidden formatting/unexpected behaviour that leads me to top post
instead of properly interleaving text.
I am not interested in
On 2/26/2012 10:08 AM, Heather Madrone wrote:
[snip Thunderbird editor shortcomings]
Thank you, Heather. That's spot on.
-Taj.
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