Re: [silk] myanmar - visa on arrival for indians ?

2013-03-20 Thread Salil Tripathi
You are right -having a local middleman does help. Salil On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Andy Deemer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM, ashok _ wrote: > > > > According to the Myanmar government website, Indian passport holders can > > get a visa on arrival (upto 70 days for a busine

Re: [silk] myanmar - visa on arrival for indians ?

2013-03-20 Thread Salil Tripathi
You need a local sponsor to sign a letter confirming it, and send you a fax. You will need it to board.Then need to show it to the immigration on arrival - there's a separate queue - and they'll verify with the fax they have received. You will need a Myanmar-registered business inviting you for a

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] India: global mobility On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, salil tripathi wrote: > ** > And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you > hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar maibaap would be > needed to l

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar maibaap would be needed to look after you and decide if you were eligible to travel abroad. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: T

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
Globally-mobile Indians also include labourers who go to middle east/SE Asia. Creating a two-tier passport system would concretise class/caste system. If you wear suits, have credit cards, and speak english and work for mncs, one queue; if you look like a construction worker, go to the back of t

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-13 Thread salil tripathi
@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech Sent: 13 Dec 2011 17:19 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 22:32, salil tripathi wrote: > Udhay, > > Jan Lok Pal, or Mr Hazare will enforce the code, don't you worry. or the judiciary doling out 100-crore fines, http://www.firstpost.com/politics/

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-13 Thread salil tripathi
Udhay, Jan Lok Pal, or Mr Hazare will enforce the code, don't you worry. Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-13 Thread Salil Tripathi
Thanks, Aadisht and Sruthi, for dragging the discussion back to a sensible, non-juveline plane. I agree with Aadisht, of course. Also see these: Look at Deaton and Dreze (yes, the same Jean Dreze): http://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Food_and_Nutrition_in_India_Facts_and_Interpretations.

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-12 Thread salil tripathi
cast aspersions without offering much in the way of evidence or even argument. Sorry, but you asked. I'd also recommend you read up on Godwin's law. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Salil Tripathi wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan > wrote:

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-12 Thread Salil Tripathi
it is me, have you bothered to explore what I write about? > Journalism today is the inheritor of hard won freedoms that people > have given up their lives to protect. To run it like it was a business > of selling french fries is just not on. > > Fine, will you subsidise fin

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-12 Thread salil tripathi
ilklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hserus.net Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:53:20 To: Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 16:49, Salil Tripathi wrote: > Some responses, interspersed. > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:2

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-11 Thread Salil Tripathi
Sidin's points below are a fairly accurate description of the newsrooms I have been part of (between 1986-1991, and later, in different contexts, abroad, where, too, we "the foreign press" were criticised for not writing the "real story". Salil On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Sidin Vadukut wrote:

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-11 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Nikhil Mehra wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: > >> What with the Kapil Sibal brouhaha, I thought I'd better find out more >> about what rights I actually have. I do know that freedom of speech in >> India is not absolute and has constitu

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

2011-12-11 Thread Salil Tripathi
Some responses, interspersed. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: > I'm not an expert in anything, and therefore I suspect I am eligible to > hold opinions on everything. > > If the newspapers and media organizations of today believe in the "pen is > mightier than the swor

Re: [silk] The souring of the Dubai dream.

2011-12-10 Thread Salil Tripathi
Johann Hari, who wrote this, has been accused of various journalistic sins - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/16/johann-hari-debacle That doesn't make Dubai a terrific place, but raises questions about the source. Salil

Re: [silk] Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world - New Scientist - New Scientist

2011-11-08 Thread Salil Tripathi
Correlation, causality, etc. Sorry, am late in coming in, but has anyone pointed out this http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/10/the-network-of-global-corporate-control.htmlor this http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/21/150-companies-control-the-world/ ? Salil

Re: [silk] My paper in the Journal of Asian and African Studies

2011-10-05 Thread Salil Tripathi
Here's the link to our report on water as a human right - implications for companies. http://www.ihrb.org/pdf/More_than_a_resource_Water_business_and_human_rights.pdf Thanks; Salil

Re: [silk] My paper in the Journal of Asian and African Studies

2011-10-05 Thread salil tripathi
I'd really like a copy of this, Zainab. Can you send it to my work address - salil.tripa...@ihrb.org? We published a report on corporate responsibility and the right to water. Happy to share that link here, but it is accessible and downloadable here - www.ihrb.org. Thanks Salil Sent from my Bl

Re: [silk] Subramanian Swamy

2011-08-03 Thread Salil Tripathi
Here's what I had written about it. There are some entertaining responses, too. http://www.livemint.com/articles/2011/07/20214319/The-right-to-write.html Salil

Re: [silk] Norwegian/Swedish

2011-05-20 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM, ss wrote: > On Friday 20 May 2011 8:03:23 am divya manian wrote: > > Norway has a lot of Pakistani refugees > > > > Pakistani refugees? From the murderous Indians I suppose? Otherwise I am > guessing life should have been pretty rosy for them in the land carved ou

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
Chetan, A range of us came to London for different reasons. I don't think there's pattern. And yes, the City is capitalist, but the rest of UK isn't. And the political mood, as Americans describe UK politics, has always been that UK has two major parties - Conservatives, who are socialists, a

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction Sent: 18 May 2011 10:38 On Wednesday 18 May 2011 03:05 PM, salil tripathi wrote: > I ask you - since I live in London, am a desi journo, don't think london > is capitalist mecca, and don't think desi

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
I ask you - since I live in London, am a desi journo, don't think london is capitalist mecca, and don't think desi journos are left-leaning - hence my query! Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "Chetan Nagendra" Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googl

Re: [silk] ADMIN: What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
I agree. But I blame Blackberry. Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
There is Connaught Place, Kingsway, Queensway, and a statue of Gandhi in London, if it makes it easier. And a crown prince, too. To confuse, there is also a tall thing that looks like Rajabai Tower, but this town ain't Bombay. --Original Message-- From: Abhijit Menon-Sen Sender: silklist

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
Sidin is rahul because he aspires to be India's PM when no one is looking. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:51:06 To: Reply-To: silklist@lis

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
London is a capitalist paradise? Are desi journos in London left-leaning? Inquiring minds want to know. Salil (Legalese: I blame blackberry) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Chetan Nagendra Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hserus.ne

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread salil tripathi
Ah good, Madhu, thanks, peace is restored. I missed that because when I saw yours at 1059 am IST, here in London, it was still the crack of dawn. :-) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Madhu Menon Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hseru

Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-17 Thread salil tripathi
10:59 am IST is early morning? Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Venkat Mangudi Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:22 To: Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sidin Vadu

Re: [silk] Is sugar toxic?

2011-04-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > wrote: > > On Saturday 23 April 2011 08:06 AM, ss wrote: > >> Avoid high risk work. Like driving in India. Mining. Deep sea diving, > Avoid > >> sickness, or if sick, avoid doctors b

Re: [silk] Is Sitting a Lethal Activity?

2011-04-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
> > Silk seems to becoming Messianic, or perhaps cable-news-ic. We have gone > from "Is sugar toxic" to "Is Sitting a Lethal Activity". Next, I expect > "IS BREATHING BAD FOR YOU? THE SHOCKING TRUTH!!!" > > Life causes cancer. Salil > -- > Regards, > > Aadisht > Email for lists: li...@aadis

Re: [silk] US prof behind EVM study deported on arrival

2010-12-19 Thread Salil Tripathi
Fascinating thread.And since Eugen asked what booth-capturing, may I attempt a description of what it does, and why EVMs were thought of as a solution in the first place? In many parts of India, primarily in the North, all political parties tried what's called booth-capturing. Armed thugs of parti

Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Sriram Karra wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy >> wrote: >>> >>> Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on >>> Timatic doing up this list. >> >> muchas gr

Re: [silk] Lurkers, hidden audiences, and public archives

2010-12-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
I don't like nom de lists. That's a cop-out. I prefer to know the name of the person I'm talking to on such lists, and know a bit more about that individual. If I speak at a public platform, someone gets up and asks a question, I may have one kind of reply. At a cocktail party, another (more nuance

Re: [silk] Diaspora

2010-12-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
I'd like one, thank you, if anyone has one spare. Salil On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Venkat Mangudi wrote: > On Wednesday 15 December 2010 01:42 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: >> Charles_Haynes, thanks Venkat. > > I already see you on my list/aspect. Do you see my profile already? > Curious to kn

Re: [silk] Journalistic Ethics

2010-12-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
Sorry I haven't debated this point here, because I've been debating on three different facebook pages, and with readers who responded to my piece. My basic points are: 1. The real story is about how the Raja scandal has been forgotten in this. 2. How Ratan Tata's reputation will take a hit. 3. Ho

Re: [silk] Biggest 419 scam ever? Or...

2010-11-04 Thread salil tripathi
Speculation is that the foundation is UNOITC - which does not exist - claiming to be based in Thailand. Amazing tale. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai(OT)

2010-10-26 Thread salil tripathi
Carrier's liability is an old piece of legislation, dating to pre-9/11 times, and European and Asian airlines have routinely checked visas before people board, to keep out asylum seekers/refugees. Each non-visa-carrying passenger not given entry costs the airline something like $3000 the last ti

Re: [silk] Simon singh's gets attention from MoJ

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
The flickr photostream, if evidence was needed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35803...@n03/sets/72157623747999438/show/

Re: [silk] Arundhati Roy haters

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Salil Tripathi > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> > >> > I think AES is better than GOST. >> >> I think her best w

Re: [silk] Simon singh's gets attention from MoJ

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Nikhil Mehra wrote: > > Apparently, he did a press conference as well. If he pulled an April Fool's > joke, then he can go and f*ck himself. I doubt he'd do that though. > It is true. I have the judgment; I've been talking to him; and the BCA has issued an ungraci

Re: [silk] Arundhati Roy haters

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > I think AES is better than GOST. I think her best work was - honestly - IWAGITO. Salil

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there (Nikhil Mehra)

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Shoba Narayan wrote: >> --- >> > > Why were you in court on that day? Just curious.  Are you a lawyer? > > Yes, Nikhil is a fine Supreme Court lawyer, and a brilliant mind. Salil

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-04-01 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Salil Tripathi [23/03/10 09:55 +]: >> >> Many years ago, as I faced the keyboard, I remembered that distant >> afternoon when a journalist near Ayemenem carefully destroyed >> Arundhati Roy's pl

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-24 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: > > Yes. I haven't had a chance to read any of Modi's writing, but as an amoral > politician he is par for the course - certainly not admired, but _not > surprising_ either. If this thread was named "For the Modi haters out there" > I'm pre

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-24 Thread Salil Tripathi
Sorry Shoba, the first response was from my bed, on a blackberry. Now: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > > Salil, you are clearly very well-read and I don't mean that in a snarky > way-- my Dad's an English prof. so I have a great deal of respect for > literature even if I s

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-24 Thread Salil Tripathi
Mahesh, On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Mahesh Murthy wrote: > > > > I'm a Tam-Brahm and I've seen this contempt-for-Arundhati thing among men > AND women, and not just of the Tam-Brahm persuasion either. > What's common to the lot that despise her is that they're all intellectuals > (or liter

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: > At 2010-03-23 16:25:18 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> … and her ignoring the more serious criticism from Gail Omvedt. > > Thanks, I hadn't read Gail Omvedt's letter and response to some of > Arundhati Roy's writings on dams. I

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > > > I could go point by point and refute everything the Indian Express article > said.  We all know of older Indian aunties with necks that have threads of > talcum powder.  I think GOST was more an autobiography than plagiarism. >  Ammu see

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
e her. That, and her childish counter-attacks on BG Verghese and Ramchandra Guha (who challenged her on dams) and her deliberate ignoring of Gail Omvedt's criticism of her work, meant I lost interest even more. Enough of preamble: here's that post: From: "Salil Tripathi" Subject: Mor

Re: [silk] Salil on Why division is good for India

2010-01-21 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Kiran K Karthikeyan [22/01/10 01:15 +0530]: >> >> I read this article[1] by silklister Salil Tripathi a few days back, >> and today I was told that unless I register with the local Karayogam, >> I can&#

Re: [silk] Ombaba gets Nobel peace

2009-10-10 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Salil Tripathi wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Indrajit Gupta wrote: >>> When Diana was divorcing Charles, Teresa apparently said: >>> Poor thing, >>> she has suffered so much. In public though, she was always >>>

Re: [silk] Ombaba gets Nobel peace

2009-10-10 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Indrajit Gupta wrote: >> When Diana was divorcing Charles, Teresa apparently said: >> Poor thing, >> she has suffered so much. In public though, she was always >> opposed to >> divorce, following the Catholic doctrine - example of >> another >> hypocrisy, the title

Re: [silk] Ombaba gets Nobel peace

2009-10-10 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > I find the association with fine, upstanding world statesmen like > Haitian dictator “Baby Doc” Duvalier icky, but not otherwise worthy of > the kind of bile I spewed earlier. > And the Keating 5. > The one single thing that (for me) push

Re: [silk] Etiquette here

2009-09-30 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote: >> >> >> > There are only three 'r's in errors. >> > > > No, if you hesitate and make a mistake it's errror or as many > ..errr...r's (don't spell it any other way) as you hesitate. > > To err is human, to er-er is unforgivable. Salil

Re: [silk] Offense

2009-07-19 Thread Salil Tripathi
The use of grievances may be time-tested method, but one should at least dispassionately be able to figure out if the grievance has merit. And while each community or caste has some grievance, it is a stretch to argue that "Hindus are second-class citizens in India." It flies in the face of logic,

Re: [silk] Offense

2009-07-18 Thread Salil Tripathi
Shiv, You are positing the argument in a binary way: it is either this, or that. So caste-system is fundamentalism, not being casteist brings about homogeneity. Victorian morality was imposed at one point, now it is being disregarded. Gandhi single-handedly convinced a vast majority of Hindus to c

Re: [silk] Offense

2009-07-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
Thanks Kiran and Deepa... On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: > >> >> The RSS goes back to 1920s, but a range of events, apparently >> unconnected, coalesced in mid-80s, leading to the environment in which >> Hindutva could flourish. It did not emerge out of vacuum; ther

Re: [silk] Offense

2009-07-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
Shiv, I'm Salil, new to the list, and wrote the book. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:42 AM, ss wrote: > 1) One set are the Hindus ho believe that sanatana dharma as an eternal > philosophy survives anyway - whether religion or people exist or not. It is > an eternal philosophy for the universe. > >