Eugen Leitl wrote:
> I'm going to be terribly lame, and comment my own post.
> Perhaps it's going to make more sense now, perhaps not.
Yes, a lot clearer now, thanks.
> Isn't it fun when networking becomes indistinguishable
> from physics?
Indeed.
Udhay
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:50:19AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> I *am* a machine elf from hyperspace. One of the hyperspaces, aynway. :)
"I sank to the floor," recalls McKenna, in a recording of the 1987 lecture. "I
[experienced] this hallucination of tumbling forward into these fractal
geo
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:46:38AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
I'm going to be terribly lame, and comment my own post.
Perhaps it's going to make more sense now, perhaps not.
If it doesn't, this conversation is perhaps not sufficiently
intelligent, and I'll drop it.
> A lot of the original design f
Eugen Leitl wrote: [ on 10:01 PM 2/26/2007 ]
It's not worth it, unless you're interested in grand scale
restructuring of the universe, and whatever protocols machine
elves from hyperspace find cool.
I *am* a machine elf from hyperspace. One of the hyperspaces, aynway. :)
Udhay
--
((Udhay Sh
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:35:45PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> Mostly, the latter. Just figuring out context in some of your posts
> takes a lot of effort, which I'm not always willing to expend.
It's not worth it, unless you're interested in grand scale
restructuring of the universe, and wh
Eugen Leitl wrote: [ on 07:36 PM 2/26/2007 ]
How exactly am I opaque? Weird words, too much shorthand?
Mostly, the latter. Just figuring out context in some of your posts
takes a lot of effort, which I'm not always willing to expend.
Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:55:07PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> However, as an aside: Eugen, you'd get a LOT more discussion around
> your (very interesting) thoughts if you were a little less opaque.
How exactly am I opaque? Weird words, too much shorthand?
--
Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org
Eugen Leitl wrote: [ on 03:16 PM 2/26/2007 ]
I did a (very bad and purple, I was dumb, 1994/95) writeup on
http://leitl.org/oldcontent/ui22204/.html/txt/8uliw.txt
(I think I did manage to do a fairy well kook impersonation
here)
I'm not commenting on the protocol design for now, as I'm not
su
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:18:03PM +0800, Gautam John wrote:
> Saw this post on his Hyderabad talk:
>
> http://gauteg.blogspot.com/2007/02/vint-cerfs-talk-in-hyderabad.html
A lot of the original design for the protocols didn't address several
basic issues.
- the network was small and irregular
-
Saw this post on his Hyderabad talk:
http://gauteg.blogspot.com/2007/02/vint-cerfs-talk-in-hyderabad.html
On 2/22/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:03:05PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Vint covered that kind of store and forward thing - the differe
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:03:05PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Vint covered that kind of store and forward thing - the difference is
> that right now, the earth's rotation, and the transmission lag, mean
> that this wont work too well
Of course it doesn't work right now. The sky is not
Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:59:32PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
>
>> How do you propose that this situation comes about? The shortest
>
> Populate space, turning it into active medium. The same thing
> will happen to terrestrial lines, too.
Vint covered that kind of store
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:59:32PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> How do you propose that this situation comes about? The shortest
Populate space, turning it into active medium. The same thing
will happen to terrestrial lines, too.
> distance between any point on earth (this includes satellite
At 2007-02-22 18:59:32 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > You don't need new protocols, just less distance between nodes.
>
> How do you propose that this situation comes about?
Just wait for the Big Crunch.
-- ams
Eugen Leitl wrote: [ on 11:27 AM 2/22/2007 ]
> That said - it was, as I said, competently executed. I wish he'd
> spent some more time on the interplanetary internet project.
You don't need new protocols, just less distance between nodes.
How do you propose that this situation comes about? Th
right. your wedding was the one time i've been to bangalore in all that
time
Srini RamaKrishnan [22/02/07 08:54 +0530]:
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
[...]
(which is how long since I've been in bangalore) :)
Ahem, I have evidence to the contrary, but never mind :-)
Cheeni
--
Suresh Ramas
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 10:52:06AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> That said - it was, as I said, competently executed. I wish he'd
> spent some more time on the interplanetary internet project.
You don't need new protocols, just less distance between nodes.
--
Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>
Binand Sethumadhavan wrote [at 09:10 AM 2/22/2007] :
Mouthwatering stuff aside, how was the talk? What was the talk about?
Well-executed, but curiouslyflat, to my mind.
The talk suffered due to the following things:
* Too many concepts to do justice to any one (a high level overview
of
On 22/02/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well it was a great meal - nobody did order steak at the end but that did
help - lots of beef salad as a result. Delicious, as usual.
Mouthwatering stuff aside, how was the talk? What was the talk about?
Binand
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
[...]
(which is how long since I've been in bangalore) :)
Ahem, I have evidence to the contrary, but never mind :-)
Cheeni
Madhu Menon [21/02/07 19:02 +0530]:
Charles Haynes wrote:
Ok I'm assuming plan is to go to Shiok after Vint's Tak. At least
that's my plan. Mobile in case people need to get in touch:
Can you folks give me a rough time and rough numbers so I can keep a
table ready?
Well it was a great meal
Charles Haynes wrote:
Ok I'm assuming plan is to go to Shiok after Vint's Tak. At least
that's my plan. Mobile in case people need to get in touch:
Can you folks give me a rough time and rough numbers so I can keep a
table ready?
Thanks,
Madhu
PS: Only SRS asked for steak so I haven't order
I may turn up for a bit.
-- b
On 21/02/07, Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok I'm assuming plan is to go to Shiok after Vint's Tak. At least
that's my plan. Mobile in case people need to get in touch:
99 007 55622
-- Charles
On 2/14/07, Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure
Ok I'm assuming plan is to go to Shiok after Vint's Tak. At least
that's my plan. Mobile in case people need to get in touch:
99 007 55622
-- Charles
On 2/14/07, Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
> Oh and Charles - can you get Vint along to the meet by any
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Oh and Charles - can you get Vint along to the meet by any chance?
srs
ps: Madhu, if its shiok, make sure you have steak available - Biju and
Gabin kind of made me hungry with their ecstatic descriptions of what
you can do to a steak.
Yes, I can do stea
Aditya Kapil wrote:
> This only rules out Udhay from a pub-crawl.
> Adit.
>
An early morning flight + staying at a relative's place kind of rules me
out of a pub crawl, unfortunately.
Well, there's a more than half decent pub I remember in homely old
indira nagar from my days there (6 years back
On 2/14/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Though maybe if I can promise steaks at Shiok he'll agree.
Well, I'm sure Madhu can do that .. easy recipe really, starts off with
"First catch your cow" :)
I wish I could make it B'luru. Both the talk and the steaks sound
ir
This only rules out Udhay from a pub-crawl.
Adit.
On 2/14/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Udhay says he has meetings on the 22nd morning which kind of rules out a
stately crawl through the various pubs of downtown bangalore ..
On 14/02/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ps: Madhu, if its shiok, make sure you have steak available - Biju and
Gabin kind of made me hungry with their ecstatic descriptions of what
you can do to a steak.
And I've been feeling guilty ever since. Hope cooking it wasn't a
nu
Charles Haynes wrote:
> On 2/14/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Oh and Charles - can you get Vint along to the meet by any chance?
>
> I'll get right on that...
>
> Though maybe if I can promise steaks at Shiok he'll agree.
Well, I'm sure Madhu can do that .. easy rec
On 2/14/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh and Charles - can you get Vint along to the meet by any chance?
I'll get right on that...
Though maybe if I can promise steaks at Shiok he'll agree.
-- Charles
Well, I'll be in town for that Vint Cerf speaker series thingy. So will
quite a few other silklisters, I dare say.
Anybody up for a silk meet? Say at Shiok or someplace else where
there's good food to be had.
Udhay says he has meetings on the 22nd morning which kind of rules out a
stately crawl
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