Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-07 Thread ashok _
On 5/7/08, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: the MS anti-trust agreements are public, and neither in the US nor in the EU do they require MS not to engage in differential pricing for other jurisdictions, or even for different target markets in different jurisdictions. MS does a lot of the latter

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-07 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:07 +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: The explanation I got from a Microsoft rep was that as a result of anti-trust regulations, they were not at liberty to offer special pricing without approval from their anti-trust lawyers in the US. this is true. but this is

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-07 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:40 +0300, ashok _ wrote: Is this a valid argument about microsoft being automatically excluded from eu procurements because of the EU ruling ? : no. that push from the european greens to ban MS from eu procurement comes across as mean-spirited and unfair to MS. with

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-06 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Monday 05 May 2008, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: [snip] I wish I could elaborate based on what I know given what I'm doing these days, but all I can say is: you're off on the wrong tangent. Oh man, now you're just teasing us. -Taj.

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-06 Thread Thaths
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 05 May 2008, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: [snip] I wish I could elaborate based on what I know given what I'm doing these days, but all I can say is: you're off on the wrong tangent. Oh man, now you're

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-06 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 15:17 +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: I wish I could elaborate based on what I know given what I'm doing these days, but all I can say is: you're off on the wrong tangent. the MS anti-trust agreements are public, and neither in the US nor in the EU do they require MS

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-06 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 07-May-08, at 2:47 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: if MS did have lower prices in some countries, they could face pressure from more consumers in rich countries, shocked that the software is available at lower prices elsewhere. this, plus the difficulty of enforcing price differentiation in

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-05 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 05-May-08, at 7:52 AM, ss wrote: Microsoft software is as expensive as jewellery for the vast majority of Indians. I haven't checked prices recently but the cost of a Vista Home Basic is well over the monthly average salary in India. I suspect that corporations like Microsoft have been

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-05 Thread ss
On Monday 05 May 2008 12:48:46 pm Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: I suspect that corporations like Microsoft have been trying (more or   less successfully) to tell people that they are human and therefore   different from animals, and that they should therefore respect IPR and   copyright

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-05 Thread va
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What they actually do is partially fund computerization by providing licenses gratis. uh, oh... not gratis, isnt the cost inbuilt ? Its just that the buyer is unaware of it. Partly why the reseller distribution channel works so

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-05 Thread ashok _
On 5/5/08, va wrote: What they actually do is partially fund computerization by providing licenses gratis. uh, oh... not gratis, isnt the cost inbuilt ? Its just that the buyer is unaware of it. Partly why the reseller distribution channel works so well. they peddle a $3 license

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-05 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 14:51 +0530, ss wrote: When this system comes into contact with grabbing hungry animals, the animals actually, indians (or brazilians) may be hungrier than americans, but they are hardly less animal in this colourful language. some years ago, i wrote a paper [1]

[silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-04 Thread Gautam John
http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/why-brazil-loves-linux _ Brazil often makes Linux-related headlines, the latest being the adoption of KDE in Brazilian public schools. It's clear that Brazil is enamored with Linux, but why? This is an important question for Microsoft since emerging

Re: [silk] Why Brazil Loves Linux

2008-05-04 Thread ss
On Sunday 04 May 2008 10:12:43 pm Gautam John wrote: http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/why-brazil-loves-linux any hope of widespread computer access, then surely we can't expect people to spend 7.8% of their annual income on Microsoft software snip When I was growing up in Brazil, paying