Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-14 Thread Neha Viswanathan
Deep fried dough and soaked in thick sugar syrup is more like it. Deep friend to crisp squiggly dough, drenched in thick orangy sugar syrup. -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886 London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-14 Thread ashok _
On 3/14/07, Neha Viswanathan wrote: Deep fried dough and soaked in thick sugar syrup is more like it. Deep friend to crisp squiggly dough, drenched in thick orangy sugar syrup. Usually eaten together with (yet again, deep fried) Ganthia...

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: Bruce: I didn't know what funnel cakes were (I always imagined them to be like conical muffins), but based on your message, I now realise that they are like large, non-syrup-soaked Jalebis. ;-) A distant cousin of the

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-14 Thread Neha Viswanathan
What about jaangri? Maybe batter constituents should be mentioned. Considering Imarti. -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886 London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-14 Thread Deepa Mohan
I think I'll have to pay a visit to the old famous Jalebi-wallah in Chandni Chowk sometime soon. Purely for research purposes, of course. -- ams And thou shalt think of me when thou goestthe orange is *supposed* to come from the saffron, but often is just food colouring. Deepa. On

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread ashok _
On 3/13/07, Neha Viswanathan wrote: Or are you strictly referring to bilateral/ multilateral aid? Primarily, I mean this You say foreign aid in any form - what about - contributions from individuals of another nationality? Even this I agree there a bunch of people, who know and

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread Neha Viswanathan
a Bihari bride need not bring any dowry...she just needed to have a family which ran a few NGO's, particularly in the murkiest corners of that hapless State! It's the big ones I am scared of. There are some that I profoundly respect - even when I have worked with them on close quarters -

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread ashok _
On 3/13/07, Deepa Mohan wrote: Oh nowith so many of our politicians stashing money away abroad, *I* say, let's use the money, wherever it comes from, and try to utilize it a little better...having worked with some social work while it might look like free money, unfortunately, such a

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 3/13/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh nowith so many of our politicians stashing money away abroad, *I* say, let's use the money, wherever it comes from, and try to utilize it a little better...having worked with some social work NGO's I do realize the volumes of money

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread Bruce Metcalf
Biju Chacko wrote: On 3/13/07, Bruce Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay Shankar N wrote: There are still quite a few examples of both scruffy khadi-clad pseudomarxists I have been known to wear khaki and look scruffy Just FYI: Khadi isn't khaki.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Bruce Metcalf wrote: I've spent a lot of time on Wikipedia thanks to silklist. Lots of terms here that don't translate directly. Just looked up jalebis and found that it can best be translated as mini-funnel cakes. Sweets actually, sticky with lots of sugar syrup. Substitute prefers bonbons to

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-13 Thread Thaths
On 3/13/07, Bruce Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just looked up jalebis and found that it can best be translated as mini-funnel cakes. Deep fried dough and soaked in thick sugar syrup is more like it. Thaths -- Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread ashok _
Not unusual at all i have had conversation on such subject matter with a whole cross section of women from different backgrounds : secretaries, waitresses, nuns, colleagues, prostitutues, entrepeneurs, teachers...from different age groups, from both african and (slightly less so) european

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ wrote: This is a small country with a finite number of indians, so clearly getting a local indian mistress was out of the question (too many familiar people). So, instead, the guy imported a mistress all the way from Jamnagar, and additionaly, the mistress was from his own

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 12 Mar 2007 10:07 am, Biju Chacko wrote: Odd, really. You'd think that, with the population we have, there'd be a lot of sex going on and Indians would be less repressed about it out of sheer familiarity. I guess Indians mostly reproduce asexually. Not at all. They follow the Nike

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread Bruce Metcalf
Udhay Shankar N wrote: There are still quite a few examples of both scruffy khadi-clad pseudomarxists as well as socialites in the NGO space. Which obliges me to ponder which I am. Yup, as of next Friday week, I'll be the executive director of an NGO. http://augustansociety.org I have

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread Biju Chacko
On 3/13/07, Bruce Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay Shankar N wrote: There are still quite a few examples of both scruffy khadi-clad pseudomarxists as well as socialites in the NGO space. Which obliges me to ponder which I am. Yup, as of next Friday week, I'll be the executive director

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Bruce Metcalf wrote: [ on 05:45 AM 3/13/2007 ] Or by non-profit and NGO do you *only* mean social service organizations? I've been involved in many non-profit organizations over the years, but only one qualified as social service. Does anyone see this distinction making any difference in

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-12 Thread Neha Viswanathan
(though personally i am against all foreign aid in any form funny enough, i like the chinese model of doing business and investing in africa... ) You say foreign aid in any form - what about - contributions from individuals of another nationality? What about contributions from say the

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Charles Haynes
user: toi.silk password: toi -- Charles On 3/8/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinayak Hegde wrote: On 3/8/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you have a link to this article handy? Go to epaper.timesofindia.com pick the economic times - bangalore edition.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Biju Chacko
On 3/10/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 10 Mar 2007 5:09 pm, ashok _ wrote: Now mind you, this was a purely casual conversation, it did not imply anything at all, neither from me, nor from her. There were no implicit or explicit messages here. It was clearly understood

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Neha Viswanathan
http://themaanga.blogspot.com/ There's a dropdown box there with TheOtherNilu writes - all those are from his woman persona, and they're all about sex with a uniquely madras flavor. Note: Both are friends of mine. Both Nilu and TheOtherNilu are very real. :) -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0)

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Neha Viswanathan
Ah they BOTH exist? Well then, that's a relief. TON (TheOtherNilu) is very real and a dear friend. She's just keen on maintaining her anonymity. You should see the hate mail she gets. All because she's a little honest about sex and suchlike. Yes, I believe the fact that they both exist is

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Madhu Menon
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: 2. Has this periodic weird habit of pretending to be a woman and writing about sex from a woman's viewpoint. Unless he really has a girlfriend sharing his blog Nope, real woman. ;) -- * Madhu Menon Shiok Far-eastern Cuisine Indiranagar, Bangalore Visit

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-11 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 12-Mar-07, at 11:55 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: a _little_ honest? refreshingly candid, actually. The kiruba crowd doesnt like her or nilu at all, especially after stuff like this - http://themaanga.blogspot.com/2007/01/photographing-urinals-kings- way.html This post inspired a

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread Ingrid
On 3/10/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was one of the alumni co-ods in undergrad. We were trying to prepare a list for some alumni event. In the eighties - someone had completely messed up the alumni lists - which meant that all we were left with was a lot of maiden

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread ashok _
The thing is - even if I enjoy the humour - I have to pretend I don't - because apparently that gives out crazy messages too. This is very interesting. because, yesterday, i was visiting a certain office in an official capacity. I had to wait because there was somebody in with the person i

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Neha Viswanathan wrote: [ on 01:18 PM 3/10/2007 ] So if I was looking for Shruti Shukla, googling, asking classmates, asking other people - no one had a clue. (Chances are she moved with her husband to some place, lost touch with her friends.) Phone numbers change over 15 years, so do

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
so the neighbor's wife had come and described the procedure of how the deed was done with the husband to the secretary. And the Now mind you, this was a purely casual conversation, it did not imply anything at all, neither from me, nor from her. There were no implicit or explicit messages here.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 10 Mar 2007 5:09 pm, ashok _ wrote: Now mind you, this was a purely casual conversation, it did not imply anything at all, neither from me, nor from her. There were no implicit or explicit messages here.  It was clearly understood from both sides... This is an unusual conversation

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 10 Mar 2007 1:18 pm, Neha Viswanathan wrote: Hell, even my colleagues became unsafe after 11. ROTFL!!

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 10 Mar 2007 1:18 pm, Neha Viswanathan wrote: They forwarded some of the most obscene mails i have laid eyes on to each other. The thing is - even if I enjoy the humour - I have to pretend I don't - because apparently that gives out crazy messages too. Whoops - I clicked send on my

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-10 Thread Neha Viswanathan
I don't know whether its them or me.. It's you. :) (jk) -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886 London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Ingrid
hurree jamset ram singh lives, ok! On 3/8/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOH Ingrid, loved that response. The best reply to this is the one Udhay made, further down the thread. Let the Polysyllabic War begin! Deepa. On 3/8/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on a lighter note,

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Deepak Misra
On 3/9/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hurree jamset ram singh lives, ok! Unusual to find someone who has read Billy Bunter. Anyone have an idea where one can buy old ones ? Deepak

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: [ on 05:57 PM 3/9/2007 ] Unusual to find someone who has read Billy Bunter. Anyone have an idea where one can buy old ones ? The british library? Coincidentally, teh British Library in Bangalore is soon going to have a sale. YAROOOHH! Udhay -- ((Udhay

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Deepak Misra
I have not been there in a while, but don't recall seing them. Deepak On 3/9/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepak Misra wrote: On 3/9/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hurree jamset ram singh lives, ok! Unusual to find someone who has read Billy Bunter. Anyone

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Pavithra Sankaran
--- Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coincidentally, teh British Library in Bangalore is soon going to have a sale. YAROOOHH! Please, could you post details when you have them? Thanks! Pavithra

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Neha Viswanathan
I remember when I joined Tata Institute of Social Sciences for a Masters in Social Work, I was amazed by the fact that there were far more women than men there. It has nothing of course to do with women having nicer hearts, but as many men explained - that women's families assume that it's a safe

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Neha Viswanathan wrote: [ on 12:13 AM 3/10/2007 ] When we sat down to contact the many women who slipped through the sieves in these institutions, we realized that we couldn't contact most of them - because well - their names had changed. And in the institutions where there are far more men -

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-09 Thread Neha Viswanathan
This sounds interesting. Can you expand a little more on this? Well, I was one of the alumni co-ods in undergrad. We were trying to prepare a list for some alumni event. In the eighties - someone had completely messed up the alumni lists - which meant that all we were left with was a lot of

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Gautam John
Would you have a link to this article handy? On 3/8/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is specifically to Ingrid Srinath, whose email id I can't remember... I liked your article in today's Economic Times. I don't know where else and on what topics you have written; and I am not, in

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
On 3/8/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you have a link to this article handy? I think you have to go to Economic Times online (google and go to the link)...sign up and get an Indiatimes id and use that to see the e-paper! Sorry, I saw the physical newspaperhey...if one you

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 3/8/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you have a link to this article handy? Go to epaper.timesofindia.com pick the economic times - bangalore edition. You can probably try the free edition or you might have to register (for free ?) to get access. -- Vinayak

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vinayak Hegde wrote: On 3/8/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you have a link to this article handy? Go to epaper.timesofindia.com pick the economic times - bangalore edition. You can probably try the free edition or you might have to register (for free ?) to get access.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Gautam John
Thank you! Howevr, the trial version is only for the Bombay edition so I had to sign up. On 3/8/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinayak Hegde wrote: On 3/8/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you have a link to this article handy? Go to

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Ingrid
Thank you, Deepa. Agree entirely on the Women's Day tokenism issue. I tried to address that in the piece which ET would have preferred to be slanted towards *why women are better suited to ngo careers than men are*. This misguided belief and the general perception of NGO-wallahs as either,

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
I find another parallel to the point Ingrid makes,in the whole teaching is a career better suited to women mythi. And why? (Because they get summer holidays with the children was the most common answer, with other responses eveng going to a fairly canny their children can study in the same

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Ingrid
on a lighter note, the most amusing response to the article thus far: --- The article of yours (in the E.T) engenders the de-gendering or deconstruction of the hegemony of patriarchy which has constructed specific norms of masculinity and femininity. This construction has confined people to

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Ingrid wrote: [ on 06:55 PM 3/8/2007 ] This misguided belief and the general perception of NGO-wallahs as either, unkempt, khadi-clad revolutionaries OR silk-sheathed socialites is a real barrier to sane people considering jobs in the sector. I am not sure if this is cause, effect or faulty

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Ingrid wrote: [ on 07:20 PM 3/8/2007 ] The article of yours (in the E.T) engenders the de-gendering or deconstruction of the hegemony of patriarchy which has constructed specific norms of masculinity and femininity. This construction has confined people to look not beyond the box but within the

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Ingrid
On 3/8/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingrid wrote: [ on 06:55 PM 3/8/2007 ] This misguided belief and the general perception of NGO-wallahs as either, unkempt, khadi-clad revolutionaries OR silk-sheathed socialites is a real barrier to sane people considering jobs in the sector.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ingrid wrote: The article of yours (in the E.T) engenders the de-gendering or deconstruction of the hegemony of patriarchy which has constructed specific norms of masculinity and femininity. This construction has confined people to look not

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Ingrid wrote: [ on 07:39 PM 3/8/2007 ] 1. inadequate sample biased towards visible and/or urban NGOs This is quite possible. 2. dated i.e. prior to the emergence of the newer, venture philanthropic organisations There are still quite a few examples of both scruffy khadi-clad

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
OOH Ingrid, loved that response. The best reply to this is the one Udhay made, further down the thread. Let the Polysyllabic War begin! Deepa. On 3/8/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on a lighter note, the most amusing response to the article thus far: --- The article of yours (in the

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 08 Mar 2007 4:13 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote: I think you have to go to Economic Times online (google and go to the link)...sign up and get an Indiatimes id and use that to see the e-paper! Sorry, I saw the physical newspaperhey...if one you techies has a more elegant

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

2007-03-08 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 08 Mar 2007 6:55 pm, Ingrid wrote: I could mail the text or a scanned copy to anyone here who is interested. me shiv