Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Frank Key
James wrote: > The single atom of silver floating in water is dissolved. A cluster is not. > Silver nitrate in water contains dissolved silver. Bits of silver, charged > or not, supported by Brownian movement is not "dissolved". A single atom of silver (that has all of its electrons) is not di

CS Re: Virus Alert -- Mac OS and Norton antivirus

2001-03-25 Thread G&B Rogers
I also have Mac OS, there is no icon in the task bar, but if you have auto protect enabled, and do regular updates, there shouldn't be a problem. I just downloaded the live update, and ran the scan/repair program, and nothing came up...some of the viruses work more on PC systems, and knock on wood

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 10:53:10 AM EST, fr...@strsoft.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water. Date: 3/25/01 10:53:10 AM EST From: fr...@strsoft.com (Frank Key) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Ivan wrote: > Perhaps just putti

RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Most definitions of "ion" simply mean a charged particle. They do not address the manner in which the charge is created. When I say "silver ion" I mean a monatomic single atom of Ag with it's valence presenting missing one electron...from somewhere. A charged particle of silver of more than one

Re: CS>Virus vs Outlook Express + "Colds"

2001-03-25 Thread CKing001
Yeah, It finally happened to me, also. First cold in over 3 years. Fortunately, it's been mild though. No cough. Slight runny nose and some sneezing. Wonder what it would be without the CS? Chuck God didn't create the world in seven days --He

Re: CS>Re: CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread Grant Mckenzie
You should have an icon in your task bar, dont know about mac. but on p/c if you hold mouse over the icon it should say "NORTON ANTI-VIRUS AUTO PROTECT ENABLED" if its not enabled it will have a red x over the icon. Grant.. rainis...@aol.com wrote: > > I have a mac..OS

Re: CS>Virus vs Outlook Express + "Colds"

2001-03-25 Thread Steve & Jackie Young
Dear Virus experts, Question regarding vulneribility of Outlook Express to virus attacks. Outlook Express has a Preview Pane which shows message content for the highlighted message in the in-box. It would seem to me that previewing Black's virus-laden message is just as dangerous as double clickin

CS>Electroporification

2001-03-25 Thread RAINISAGE
Any comments on this...do the Beck or Rife machines accomplish electroporification or just blood purification?. Electroporation and electropurification are not the same things, Hanan! Electroporation is the process resulting in cell's membrane to become more elastic and penetrative. If you in

Re: CS>Re: CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread Harsha Godavari
Hanan: If you have MAC_OS you should not have to worry about the majority of viruses. Viruses are written for a specific operating system (and or a specific group of programs running under that OS). VERY RARELY can they attack a different OS. MAC_OS is totally different from Windows. Howev

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Russ Rosser
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:44:28 -0700 "James Osbourne, Holmes" writes: By CS, you mean particulate, not ionic? The website lauds the efficacy of "elemental or ionic silver (colloidal silver) without an added attached compound", which IS a solution, is it not? --Russ "Solutions" may be unstable. C

CS>Re: CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread RAINISAGE
I have a mac..OS system. I recently installed Norton antivirus. Have never had any warning about a virus in my email. How do I know that I have installed Norton properly and that it is working? -Hanan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit

RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Error Correction: read "statue" as "status". Too much law studies... JOH -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 3:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water. Hi Frank, Can it be rel

RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Frank, Can it be related to 1. The charge statue--by whatever mechanism--of the particle; 2. Or, the micelle created by the charge status of the particle? JOH -Original Message- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CS>Re: saturated solution

2001-03-25 Thread Frank Key
Ivan wrote: > I am a bit confused. > > I do not see why anions are required at all for silver ions to go into > solution. The ions will be solvated, surrounded by water molecules. If > there are no anions, there will be nothing for the silver to complex > with and so the saturation point will de

RE: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Outlook said the Active-X file was not safe, and therefore the page would not display correctly. I deleted the file. JOH -Original Message- From: Kehoe [mailto:ke...@ticon.net] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Virus Alerrt Just got a virus

RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
"Solutions" may be unstable. CS is a sol, not a solution. JOH -Original Message- From: Russ Rosser [mailto:russros...@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water. > > http://www.burnsurgery.org/Bet

RE: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Wild. Thanks Ivan. -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 5:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water. Hi James, The electron never leaves the bulk silver, the ion leaves without an electron and

Re: CS>A Proposed Mechanism & Test to Determine the Solubility of Silver in ...

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 10:50:25 AM EST, fr...@strsoft.com writes: << I would not depend on conductivity to prove the silver dissolved. I would use only an AAS. If you would like to perform the procedure described above, then send me the samples, I will run the AAS test for silver. fran

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 10:44:20 AM EST, ratso...@hotmail.com writes: << Subj: CS>Unidentified subject! Date: 3/25/01 10:44:20 AM EST From: ratso...@hotmail.com (Keith Emerson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Roger, Ivan, Frank, et al: Why does th

Re: CS > Virus Alert

2001-03-25 Thread CHRISTELTI
<< Did any other memebers receive the HAHA or AHAA seven dwarf message along with Black's message? >> Not with Black's message but on its own several times. Christel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread Grant Mckenzie
Harvey: Not quite true, I never use outlook, but picked up virus anyway. What it is , is that outlook has more openings in its defenses than a lot of other software.. Grant.. Harvey Flatbush wrote: > > At 07:16 PM 3/24/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes on Virus alert..!!

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread A.V.R.A
There are some REAL mean script viruses out there these days that embed in HTML... Everyone's best bet is to go to Microsoft's website and get the numerous patches that are available. People with dial-up modems are especially at risk for a very unique virus embedded on some linked auto pop-up web

Re: CS > Virus Alert

2001-03-25 Thread A.V.R.A
Sure did... - Original Message - From: Rogoff Family To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: CS > Virus Alert > I also received that virus along with another AHAA something about the seven > dwarfs but as soon as I saw it I deleted it. I remember the snowhite and > the se

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread d.linen
Mike, I have Zone Alarm Pro and it caught it for me and warned me about it so I could get rid of it. I have ZA Pro set to catch many or most of the malicious extensions and refuse them but this one slipped by and I was warned instead. Diane "M. G. Devour" wrote: > > Brita wrote: > > I thought

Re: CS>zappers

2001-03-25 Thread d.linen
Alvin Rose wrote: > > Hi Dean and Roger > if you want to build a rife machine..you do not have > to use a CB and linear amplifier..This was the Bare/Rife > method which is expensive...It is necessary to buy a > plasma tube for an emem3 but you can build the rest from > local parts 1986 to 95 Bu

Re: CS > Virus Alert

2001-03-25 Thread Kehoe
Not this time, but I have gotten that e-mail several times... I always delete it before opening it. CK - Original Message - From: "Rogoff Family" To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: CS > Virus Alert > I also received that virus along with another AHAA something about the

CS>Virus Alerrt -- List Owner Analysis

2001-03-25 Thread M. G. Devour
Brita wrote: > I thought Mike D had put in a fix for it already. Yikes, what an ugly > bug showed up on my screen. But not for long. Okay, it took me a while to find out where this bug came from. Yes, it was the post from Nancy, dbl...@cfl.rr.com, to the "Personal Experience Update" thread. The

CS > Virus Alert

2001-03-25 Thread Rogoff Family
I also received that virus along with another AHAA something about the seven dwarfs but as soon as I saw it I deleted it. I remember the snowhite and the seven dwarfs being a virus. Strangely enough it appeared straight after Black's message. Did any other memebers receive the HAHA or AHAA seven

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread bvjones
Don't know, my a-v prog said something about bad "active x " stuff after sounding the alarm buzzer and after I pressed "delete" I was able to read the message, so it had only deleted the virus. I know that Microsoft had come up with some kind of fix, but McAfee caught this one. Brita. - Orig

Re: CS and mice and now my chooks

2001-03-25 Thread Black
Judith, Ask any vet if they will sell you a few ozs of Albon. I am currently treating some Maltese pups who probably have cocci, and have done so for almost 20 years. It works like a charm, no idea if organic but it will knock out cocci in 2-3 days. I give it for 5 days which is the standard tre

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V101 #372

2001-03-25 Thread KiasiBehr
In a message dated 03/25/2001 4:54:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << Brita & Other Virus Vigilantes: I don't see any sign of it. Does that mean that AOL removed it before it got to me? Roger >> Does receiving all your posts in digest form take care of

Re: CS>Living Waters

2001-03-25 Thread Ted Windsor
Mr. whitehead is partly right, you can put temporary life energy back into water with a vortex method, there are many energies around us and if used with proper intent can restore life energy back into water. Kinetic Energy is one of many, this is one that I use and I no longer wory about what ma

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

2001-03-25 Thread Frank Key
Kieth wrote: > Why does there have to be any significant amount of silver 'dissolving' into > the water? In the case of the silver dollar placed into a jug of milk, > water barrel, etc; wouldn't normal convection currents be sufficient to > ensure that all of the liquid in question would repe

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread Beverle Sweitzer
Yes, I just now did. Getting to my email a little late today. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word

Re: CS>Living Waters

2001-03-25 Thread michael murray
Wong, Yes. This immitates the pattern of water flow in nature. Still room for improvement! --- wong...@aol.com wrote: > Why can't you just pour water thru a funnel. Would't this be > vortex(ed) water? > > wong > > In a message dated 03/21/2001 1:43:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > uri...@y

Re: CS>zappers

2001-03-25 Thread Alvin Rose
Hi Dean and Roger if you want to build a rife machine..you do not have to use a CB and linear amplifier..This was the Bare/Rife method which is expensive...It is necessary to buy a plasma tube for an emem3 but you can build the rest from local parts 1986 to 95 Buick Ignition coil and a Darlington

CS>Unidentified subject!

2001-03-25 Thread Keith Emerson
Roger, Ivan, Frank, et al: Why does there have to be any significant amount of silver 'dissolving' into the water? In the case of the silver dollar placed into a jug of milk, water barrel, etc; wouldn't normal convection currents be sufficient to ensure that all of the liquid in question woul

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Frank Key
Ivan wrote: > Perhaps just putting some freshly scrubbed silver sheet or wire into > 50ml of water, cover and leave for a week or so. > > I have some silver powder salvaged from the cathode of one of my > batches, I shall put it into some DW and leave for a while and test it > with the ISE. The

Re: CS>A Proposed Mechanism & Test to Determine the Solubility of Silver in Water.

2001-03-25 Thread Frank Key
Roger wrote: > > > Ivan& Frank: I propose that the mechanism that permits a slight amount of > silver (but sufficient to have germicidal activity) to dissolve in pure > water, is based on the type & concentration of impurities alloyed with the > silver (which provides micro-corrosion sites t

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread Lynda Khula
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/ I went here and it found the virus and it deleted it for me hope this helps, I had it twice,,, got it when I deleted the email , Lynda - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: Re: CS>Virus Aler

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread CHRISTELTI
How can I check for the virus? Can someone tell me? Christel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word s

CS>A Proposed Mechanism & Test to Determine the Solubility of Silver in Water.

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 5:08:39 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water. Date: 3/25/01 5:08:39 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Frank Perhaps just putting some freshl

Re: CS>Tyndall yet clear

2001-03-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Many of the "Sparklers" are pollen, dust etc that have gotten into the water from the air. Motes in a sunbeam, ya know. ...and some may be chunks that broke loose from an electrode. Ken At 09:56 AM 3/24/01 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 3/24/01 8:32:47 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: > ><<

CS>Determining the Maximum Ionic Silver Solubility for LVDC generated CS

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 4:21:53 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Re: saturated solution Date: 3/25/01 4:21:53 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Frank, I am a bit confused. I do not see wh

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread d.linen
Kehoe wrote: > > Just got a virus alert from the last post from "Black" Anyone else get it??? > > CK Yes Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.co

Re: CS>zappers

2001-03-25 Thread Ode Coyote
I have a manual that tells how to make a Rife device out of a CB radio. Have yet to do it though. Ken At 04:53 AM 3/24/01 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 3/24/01 3:27:55 AM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: > ><< Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use > electro

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Yea, persistant too. Or maybe just stuck on an idea. But then, a rusted piece of iron, even a small ,one isn't all iron oxide. ken At 09:04 PM 3/24/01 +1200, you wrote: >Ha Ha! You are certainly consistent Ken! >I think the article refers to, in a somewhat overblown and >over-technical manner, a

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 1:59:30 AM EST, bvjo...@email.msn.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Virus Alerrt Date: 3/25/01 1:59:30 AM EST From: bvjo...@email.msn.com (bvjones) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Ditto here. I thought Mike D had put in a fix for

Re: CS>Personal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-25 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/25/01 1:41:07 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: << I would not be too worried about O3 dissolving into solution as cold water is required for this to ocurr. Ivan >> Ivan: Thanks for your comments. So, I think you're implying that the water temp. in contact with my arc is ap

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread Terry Dickinson
I'm lucky - use Netscape and I've even scanned to check and I'm clean. (Back to list after some months away) Regards Terry -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ..

Re: CS>Les Miserables

2001-03-25 Thread Mary Christensen
I wouldn't call sifting through 75 to 125 messages every 24 hours slow. But maybe that's just me. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: CS>Les Miserables > Rented the movie last night. > Couldn't help but think that if Cosette's mom would hav

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Russ, On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:32:16 -0600, Russ Rosser wrote: >> > http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section3.htm >...seems to indicate that colloidal silver is a better silver delivery >system than proteins, salts, or sulfadiazine; it's highly biocidal, >nontoxic, noninflammat

Re: CS>zappers

2001-03-25 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Roger, On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:53:06 EST, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: >Dean: Have you, or anyone you know about built a Rife machine? Roger I haven't built one, but there are a few places on the WWW describing them -- with instructions on how to build one. The one I recall uses a modified CB tra

Re: CS>Solubility of silver in water.

2001-03-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
Frank Perhaps just putting some freshly scrubbed silver sheet or wire into 50ml of water, cover and leave for a week or so. I have some silver powder salvaged from the cathode of one of my batches, I shall put it into some DW and leave for a while and test it with the ISE. The ISE may not be able

Re: CS>Re: saturated solution

2001-03-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
Frank, I am a bit confused. I do not see why anions are required at all for silver ions to go into solution. The ions will be solvated, surrounded by water molecules. If there are no anions, there will be nothing for the silver to complex with and so the saturation point will depend upon the inte

Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

2001-03-25 Thread hughman1
Yup! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, a