Re: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Dennis Gulenchin
Why does one need a presciption for a nebulizer and do all nebulizers require a presciption? Does it come with medication of some sort? Dennis. Medwith, Robert wrote: ht://www.nebulizer-online-4617store.com/details.asp?productID=tp

RE: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Garnet
The droplet size is important because you want it to penetrate deeply. Larger droplets will condense on the cilia higher up in the lungs. Infection can occur higher up, but a lot of the mucous and pathogens are deeper, at the level of the alveoli. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum

CS>FDA raids New Mexico

2004-12-02 Thread bbanever
himagain - You're kidding, right?

RE: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread J J
Garnet writes, If this is the design that uses an ultrasonic humidifier then it is not a nebulizer at all. The size of the droplet is not small enough to reach into the bronchioles. An ultrasonic humidifier produces too large of a droplet to penetrate deep into the lungs to the site of infecti

Re: CS>- good flora and personal uses

2004-12-02 Thread name withheld
my experience is drinking up to four ounces of cs at a time, swishing each mouthful for 5 seconds or so, and doing it on an empty stomach will not mess up your bacteria in your intestine. gulping large quantities of cs or having it with food may be an issue for some depending on the situation.

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread MED
I too support and echo your prayer...we live in sad and dangerous times and all of our freedoms are rapidly diminishing. It is only by continuing to educate ourselve and others that we can hope to survive amidst the corruption and mindless manipulation. - Original Message - From: Y

Re: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread fg227
Message - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CS>Air Compressor Hello, Does anyone have suggestions about where I can go for information on how to nebulise safely and information on whether or not the nebulise

Re: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread fg227
You can get nice clean pressurized oxygen in two ways. Buy you own new welding tank and new regulator. Get it filled at a gas supplier and don't let them swap it out for one of their funky old ones. This *might* entail two trips to the gas supplier. To drop off your cylinder, then to pick up the

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
Thank you Jonathan, that sounds feasable and reasonable! Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:09 PM Subject: Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
Hello Mike, I greatly appreciate your detailed and very helpful comments! I think I had puzzled out most of the answers. But as is always the case on these lists, someone ALWAYS adds gems of insight or bits of new information that flesh-out/expand my own limited knowledge. I especially apprec

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread M. G. Devour
Brooks' airbrush nebulizer was a clever adaptation of an inexpensive artist's airbrush to an oxygen tank (or clean oil-less compressor) as an alternative to commercial nebulizers. It actually produced a finer vapor and, when run with oxygen, achieved better results than with air. As for Lea Ann

RE: CS>FDA at work

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
What I understand is if there isn't any money to be made from a small company they won't go into litigation. The'll just use threats in hope that it will stop. Now if they start making a lot of money then they will file suite so they can take the money and close them down. This will offset money lo

Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

2004-12-02 Thread Garnet
There is no reason to give them your SS number. It is a security risk and these days you should be very careful who you give it to. Also do not ever repeat it out loud, you do not know who is listening. If they need a number of the same number of digits have them use your phone number with area co

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Garnet
If this is the design that uses an ultrasonic humidifier then it is not a nebulizer at all. The size of the droplet is not small enough to reach into the bronchioles. An ultrasonic humidifier produces too large of a droplet to penetrate deep into the lungs to the site of infection. Most of the vapo

Re: CS>FDA at work

2004-12-02 Thread Garnet
Did she mention on what basis the FDA made this order? Did any of them challenge them? Small health food stores are generally not in any position to make a legal stand and if their profit from selling CS is not huge, which it likely is not, then they probably just took the path of least resistance

CS>FTC vs. Hulda Clark

2004-12-02 Thread sarongsong
"...The settlement with the Federal Trade Commission requires the Dr. Clark Research Association and its Swiss unit, Dr. Clark Behandlungszentrum, to stop making unsubstantiated health claims about products developed by Hulda Clark, a San Diego County woman who operates out of a Tijuana clinic..."

Re: CS>Peer reviewed studies: Always trustworthy?

2004-12-02 Thread Garnet
As I have often said, show me the RAW data. Peer reviewed is one step closer than non-peer reviewed, but there is nothing like raw data. Of course NO ONE publishes raw data, it is always statistically manipulated and often with misapplications of statistical tests. Generally parametrics that are n

Re: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

2004-12-02 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I think these people are going to fail in a big way, once the people figure out what they are up to. They have already lost in the US courts on the basis of First Amendment rights to free flow of information -- see the LEF site.The opposition to these moves is not powerless. . . . JBB

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I would add only this to MD's comments: If you have an ultrasonic nebulizer like the excellent Omron portable device, you could presumably obtain the oxygen benefit -- if there is a benefit -- simply by purchasing some small canisters of bottled oxygen from a sports store.I assume these a

RE: CS>Checking the quality of your CS ..... how?

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
Hi Sue, I may have directed you to the wrong website. There is a lazer pen which actually shows through thickness of red beam what the ppm is respectively in your potion. I know this is a crude explaination but thought this might at least give you some direction to find this tool -Original Me

RE: CS>Checking the quality of your CS ..... how?

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
Hi Sue. Go here www.silverpuppy.com . I think u might find what you are looking for, there are numerous ways but few are truly accurate. -Original Message- From: suzy sue [mailto:suzy...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:01 PM To: silver-lis

Re: CS>Checking the quality of your CS ..... how?

2004-12-02 Thread suzy sue
i have a generatoris there something i can buy to check the ppm of the CS i am making? Sue -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.co

RE: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
Can someone please explain to me then, when eating something bad why doesn't the stomach kill off the bad bacteria if infact no bacteria gets into the intestines.? I mean, whether stomach flu or food poisoning, anyone will tell u they make frequent washroom visits..and we all know its not pleasant.

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread himagain
At 11:30 PM 02/12/04, you wrote: Bear in mind that the supplement industry is almost as big and powerful as the prescription drug industry complete with lobbyists and lawyers. It'll be a heck of a special interest fight. ..mostly about labeling I think. Ode Hi Ode and folks, As a sorta compa

Re: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread PanAmPete
In a message dated 12/2/04 6:53:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rans...@atmc.net writes: -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:17 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CS>Air Compressor _ht://www.nebulizer-online-4617store

Re: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

2004-12-02 Thread himagain
At 05:39 PM 01/12/04, you wrote: Trem, If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut down any and all food supplement industries eventually. Notice how negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such things as Vitamin C. Soon, all of our natur

Re: CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread M. G. Devour
Greetings and welcome Lea Ann, Sorry things are a bit scattered for the moment and no one else has offered to address your questions yet. > Questions are: > > 1) Will my nebuliser work? I looked at it. I think it would, but remember that as soon as you step outside "doctor's orders" you *are*

RE: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
You'll have to pardon my explaination..I donot think it heals, I do think it does help in the process. The body has many functions. I'll see what I can dig up regarding your requests and be most happy to share anything I do find out. E. -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwat

CS>Compressor vs O2 tank update

2004-12-02 Thread fg227
Update: Wrangled a prescription without seeing (paying) a doc and got a big tank (cylinder) of medical oxygen delivered today. An H tank. So instead of messing with compressors I'll be using oxygen to push the Brooks Bradley Harbor Freight airbrush. With CS/DMSO/MSM and probably a few drops food

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread M. G. Devour
Ummm, yes, Pete. What "Marmar" said. Thanks folks, keep the political stuff on the health aspects only. Mike Devour silver-list owner > In a message dated 12/2/04 11:16:59 AM EST, panamp...@aol.com writes: > > << I certainly hope our "grass-roots" effort does better than the Bush > vs Kerry >

RE: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freightairbrushnebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
Dan (different Dan)- I'm not trying to be as ill as I just now was with Marshall. You haven't done anything to deserve that. But- no they're not the same thing, I never said they were, and I was only using the example of propane to expose the dangers of transporting large pressurized bottles of ga

RE: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
Marshall wrote: >I am rather cluless as to what you are saying here.< You can say that again. Please get your facts straight and don't add to the confusion that is beginning to proliferate from people mis-reading or half-reading these posts and this thread. > Lets see, I think it was about $10

CS>the oxygen/air brush nebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread Dan Nave
Check out these pages for the oxygen/air brush nebulizer. Dan http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/nebulizer2.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: ht

Re: CS>What's in a name?

2004-12-02 Thread C. Hatzfeld
There's one short the Three Stooges did where one of them (Curly, I think) had a zipper put in during a surgery in case the doctor ever needed to go back in. As a kid, always thought that was funny! Cindy I will be having an operation performed by "Dr. Zipper" (no kidding!)

Re: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread sol
No, I get your point. I just do not agree with you that CS can get into the colon in a form to hurt any bacteria there, good or bad, unless there is already water diarrhea present. I absolutely disagree that beneficial bacteria do anything to help leaky gut, with the sole exception of perhaps h

RE: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
I think u are missing my point. CS is an Anti- biotic. Anti bacterial. The large intestine has natural flora.( pro biotic ) to sustain good fuctioning of the large intestine. If you have no good flora in he intestine. Then MOST LIKELY you'll have what is called "leaky guy" That means that your inte

Re: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread sol
So far as I know that advice hasn't changed, at least nothing has so far changed my view of it. Human digestion is NOT bacteria dependent, period. The so-called "good flora" in the colon perform beneficial functions, I am certain, but those functions have NOTHING to do with digestion. The only

Re: CS>

2004-12-02 Thread elle roberts
Try this  http://i...@biophysica.com  (it worked for me.) Also,  please private email me for info elle >From: "Paul Holloway" >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: >Subject: Re: CS> >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:07:19 - > >Try http://www.biophysica.com/index.htm >   - Original Message -

Re: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrushnebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread PanAmPete
In a message dated 12/2/04 8:03:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: As far as I can tell, DB is talking about a 100 pound tank. fg227 Dan is talking about an 80 cubic foot tank. Not the same thing... Dan I have a 120 lb (liquid O2)"Puritan-Bennett" Heli

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 12/2/04 11:16:59 AM EST, panamp...@aol.com writes: << I certainly hope our "grass-roots" effort does better than the Bush vs Kerry outcome!>> Do NOT go there, Pete. Some of us may be perfectly happy with the outcome -- and this is the type of political rhetoric that Mi

RE: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
Yogiboy wrote: >Has anyone thought about exercise..? that will definitely increase O2 levels in your blood and detox your system as well through sweat. < Not knocking exercise, and your statements are correct, but we're talking about bronchial conditions to be treated by nebulizing CS. Try exercis

CS>Hoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
MessageSee message below... Questions are: 1) Will my nebuliser work? 2) Where can I find information on how to SAFELY nebulise (how to avoid breath-stopping reactions). 3) How does oxygen increase the effectiveness of nebulised CS. - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-l

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread PanAmPete
In a message dated 12/2/04 7:47:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, khann...@yahoo.com writes: Bear in mind that the supplement industry is almost as big and powerful as the prescription drug industry complete with lobbyists and lawyers. It'll be a heck of a special interest fight. ..mostly about

Re: CS>What's in a name?

2004-12-02 Thread Denise Rollheiser
And at a local hospital when I worked there, (sounds like one of those urban legend type scenarios, but I kid you not)we had a physician - with the last name of "Nurse". His wife was an R.N. (I'll leave you the joy of putting the words all together...). Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec.

Re: CS>What's in a name?

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
This is really funny! I will be having an operation performed by "Dr. Zipper" (no kidding!) - Original Message - From: Dan Nave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: CS>What's in a name? Dr. Rath ... Dr. Wrath I have a friend th

RE: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrushnebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread Dan Nave
As far as I can tell, DB is talking about a 100 pound tank. fg227 Dan is talking about an 80 cubic foot tank. Not the same thing... Dan RE: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrushnebulizer From: ransley (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:

Re: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
ransley wrote: > And exactly who is being silly? If you "just go and have a oxygen tank > filled", do you have any idea how much expense is involved and how much care > must be taken to insure you don't have a high pressure regulator to fail and > have a high pressure line lashing your face? Do yo

RE: CS>Air Compressor - good flora

2004-12-02 Thread Judydownmaine
MessageI learned years ago on this list that to avoid damaging flora you simply drink the CS on an "empty stomach" which seemed to be about a half-hour before eating. Or even a half-hour after you've finished eating. This way the CS goes straight into your system and doesn't get as far as the intes

RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread Sally Khanna
I am always inspired by the words of Thomas Jefferson: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." Sally Yogiboy wrote: I support your prayer, it will occur eventually, .we just don’t really know at what cost. Interestingly enough, it almost sounds like we have a hidden revolution occurr

RE: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
Oh one more thing.Good Flora, is needed for the body to maintain proper functioning and good digestion so if you take CS make sure you get something to offset the loss of good Flora. Any good pro biotic will do. ( Bio-K , yogurt ) -Original Message- From: Lea Ann [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.c

RE: CS>What's in a name?

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
I think that is funny. All kidding aside? -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>What's in a name? Dr. Rath ... Dr. Wrath I have a friend that just had major surgery and th

RE: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
I have heard the CS is probably the best kept secret to eliminating virtually all bacteria in the body. Even the good bacteria ( flora). A good batch of this stuff will even get into the cellular level of the body and eliminate viruses as well. No matter how nasty. Check it out..can't hurt to find.

CS>What's in a name?

2004-12-02 Thread Dan Nave
Dr. Rath ... Dr. Wrath I have a friend that just had major surgery and the doctor was named Dr. Payne ... (Dr. Pain) He just couldn't get this doctor or his office to refill his pain medication. Go figure, Dan Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell. From: Jonathan B. Britten (view other mes

RE: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
Has anyone thought about exercise..? that will definitely increase O2 levels in your blood and detox your system as well through sweat. -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:44 AM To: The Silverlist Subject: RE: CS>Air compressors-

Re: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
MessageHello, Does anyone have suggestions about where I can go for information on how to nebulise safely and information on whether or not the nebuliser my kids used for Asthma medication is sufficient? Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 - Original Message

RE: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrush nebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
That's good to know. I was just always told otherwise, but the truth is no one ever said anything about an exception for oxygen. I guess it's like a lot of things, just easier to pretend that there's a blanket rule when there's not. DB -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast

RE: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
MessageYou are right and I agree, but there are always those who will try something different. I had to do this before all these cheap nebulizers were available, and I just try to pass on what I've learned in the hope it will keep someone from making a mistake that may end up in the news. DB

RE: CS>Air compressors- Silly?

2004-12-02 Thread ransley
And exactly who is being silly? If you "just go and have a oxygen tank filled", do you have any idea how much expense is involved and how much care must be taken to insure you don't have a high pressure regulator to fail and have a high pressure line lashing your face? Do you realize that you have

RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
I support your prayer, it will occur eventually, .we just don't really know at what cost. Interestingly enough, it almost sounds like we have a hidden revolution occurring right under our feet. -Original Message- From: Lea Ann [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004

RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell. It will be a sad day

2004-12-02 Thread Yogiboy
In my humblest opinion, if I may have one. Everything being spoken of is speculation. Yes it is painfully obvious what the pharms and gov't are doing. And how they want to keep the gen public ignorant because of big biz; Same time, suppressing info, and education about homeo and naturophathic cures

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell. It will be a sad day

2004-12-02 Thread twllLL
Maybe we need to get out in the streets like they are doing in the Ukraine rite now. - Original Message - From: "Louise" To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell. It will be a sad day I tried hard here in Canada to get people to pay a

RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell. It will be a sad day

2004-12-02 Thread Louise
I tried hard here in Canada to get people to pay attention, but they did not see any problem as the government here put it in increments with the less used things gotten rid of first but the law is passed and most of the people here have NO clue. I think that American lately seem to have gotten mo

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
This is my prayer... that the groundswell of public outrage will prevent the govt. from blocking access to natural supplements. Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, Decembe

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

2004-12-02 Thread Ode Coyote
Bear in mind that the supplement industry is almost as big and powerful as the prescription drug industry complete with lobbyists and lawyers. It'll be a heck of a special interest fight. ..mostly about labeling I think. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Viru

Re: CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Lea Ann
MessageHello, I have one of these: http://www.nidekmedical.com/pulmo.htmthat was prescribed for my kids to deliver their asthma medicine... would this work for CS? I am very new to the area of CS and actually fear nebulising it as I read a report where nebulized CS caused someone to not

CS>Air Compressor

2004-12-02 Thread Medwith, Robert
ht://www.nebulizer-online-4617store.com/details.asp?productID=tp Why would any one go through the trouble to use a compressor for a Nebulizer when for $52.48 you can buy a great nebulizer I have had mine for several years, it wor

Re: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrush nebulizer

2004-12-02 Thread fg227
I called up the local TriGas dealer and he said transporting 80cf oxygen tanks in automobiles is OK. Is legal. He was seeming to hint that the regulations are different for acetylene and other flammable gasses but I went no further. Since only oxygen is of interest to me. That the Federal DOT has