Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-06 Thread Ode Coyote
At 10:59 PM 9/5/02 -0500, you wrote: I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying, but the people I know who have an addiction are either unhappy with who they are or their circumstances (which they feel helpless of change) or they just like experimenting. In the former, if it worked for a

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Ode Coyote
Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome That stuff is the most potent shamanistic assist I have experienced. Definitely not a party drug. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Bill Missett
:58 PM Subject: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Barbara: ...meth you are referring to methamphetamine? JOH: Yes. Invented by the Nazis. Wasn't it also officially used by U.S. troops? Have heard various war stories of it being included (pill form) with their rations. Dehydration can also

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Barbara: ...meth you are referring to methamphetamine? JOH: Yes. Invented by the Nazis. Wasn't it also officially used by U.S. troops? Have heard various war stories of it being included (pill form) with their rations. Dehydration can

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-05 Thread d.linen
Barbara Liles wrote: That's a good explanation to me as to why the MSM brought about such rapid results. I have my share of traumatic arthritis and had been taking a Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM tablet that had more of each component than most available. Then I got the bright idea that

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
, September 04, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome That stuff is the most potent shamanistic assist I have experienced. Definitely not a party drug. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent

RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Maybe I'm narrow minded, but isn't this like what one would look for that uses LSD? - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: RE

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-05 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
is very stable in crystal form, and does not react easily because it completely oxidized. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Yes to it all. ADHD was invented to make a market for shrinks and Ritalin. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome It's about

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-05 Thread CKing001
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:55:18 -0500, Barbara Liles ba...@netease.net wrote: I am clueless as to the half life of powdered MSM, but don't think the body stores it well. If you mean in the body, you need to take it every 4 to 8 hrs. to sustain relief.

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jeannie wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: I believe that every living thing on earth has a use. Otherwise it would not be here. Well maybe not fleas, chiggers and ticks, but every plant anyway. The question is not if it has a legit use, but if the use of it is in some way abusive

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Jeannie
Marshall Dudley wrote: I believe that every living thing on earth has a use. Otherwise it would not be here. Well maybe not fleas, chiggers and ticks, but every plant anyway. The question is not if it has a legit use, but if the use of it is in some way abusive or counter productive.

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Bill Missett
: jrowl...@nctimes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Bill writes: I believe the pills added to GI ration kits was dextroamphetamine, a much milder form of amphetamines. The meth version didn't gain widespread popularity

CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread jrowland
Bill writes: I believe the pills added to GI ration kits was dextroamphetamine, a much milder form of amphetamines. The meth version didn't gain widespread popularity until the early-80s. Well, this government sponsored drug is rearing its head now in the form of wide-spread illegal meth

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Many of the early LSD research subjects reported being cured of life long addicitions, specifically, alchololism. The psycehdelics are all a bit different, but one trait they share is to present

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Yes to it all. ADHD was invented to make a market for shrinks and Ritalin. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Thursday, September

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
Who created it, has a purpose! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome I believe that every living thing on earth has a use. Otherwise it would not be here

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
That's an eye opener, but thinking back to when I have missed doses, I believe you are right. - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other On Thu, 5 Sep 2002

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
of a perfectly good Earth! From: Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Marshall Dudley wrote: I believe that every living thing on earth has a use. Otherwise it would not be here. Well maybe not fleas

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
...@prodigy.net.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome The perpetrators of the widespread availability of meth in Southern California is not traceable to returning GIs and Marines, who were largely hooked with heroin habits, but rather

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-05 Thread Barbara Liles
I wish those had been my words! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Jeannie wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: I believe that every living thing

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated. Although nothing will surpass the desire to be substance free, seems like there ought to be something out there that would begin to correct the chemical mess that results from introducing a host of bad chemicals into the system

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Response in your text. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Is the meth you are referring to methamphetamine? Sorry, I don't

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
To switch gears a bit, what do you think of a case of Lyme disease that wasn't diagnosed for some 6 months after the onset of symptoms and has yet to exhibit the Lyme virus? Lyme is not a virus, but a spirochete bacteria. It is pretty well normal to have lyme for 6 months or a year before

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
- From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Thanks for repeating the Ibogaine web site. Don't know how I missed it! I would appreciate any information that might be forthcoming

RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
That stuff is the most potent shamanistic assist I have experienced. Definitely not a party drug. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Glad cow

CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread jrowland
Barbara: ...meth you are referring to methamphetamine? JOH: Yes. Invented by the Nazis. Wasn't it also officially used by U.S. troops? Have heard various war stories of it being included (pill form) with their rations. Dehydration can also be an overlooked side-effect of drug use. jr --

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread Craig C Chamberlin
Hi James, Referring to the salvia, I presume? Ciao, Craig James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: That stuff is the most potent shamanistic assist I have experienced. Definitely not a party drug. James-Osbourne: Holmes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
, 2002 8:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Barbara: ...meth you are referring to methamphetamine? JOH: Yes. Invented by the Nazis. Wasn't it also officially used by U.S. troops? Have heard various war stories of it being included (pill form

RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Yes. The CS of psychedelics. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Craig C Chamberlin [mailto:c...@itsmyplace.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome Hi James, Referring to the salvia, I presume

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread Barbara Liles
medicine hands down! - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Here is the information on a lead for Ibogaine treatment. Dr. Deborah Mash PhD (Not medical

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread Barbara Liles
Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Response in your text. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Is the meth you

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other

2002-09-04 Thread Barbara Liles
fungus was cured?!!* Barbara - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome or perhaps other Closely related chemically but with some similar and some

Re: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-04 Thread Barbara Liles
Maybe I'm narrow minded, but isn't this like what one would look for that uses LSD? - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Glad cow syndrome That stuff is the most

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread ronwilson
Try this site http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome It is a real herb. From the Congo. Probably, your best chance

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread M. G. Devour
Malcolm writes: In a transparently devious attempt to keep this on topic; the False idea that you can distinguish a poisonous mushroom from non-poisonous ones because it will discolor a piece of silver, or make it non-poisonous by cooking it with silver is yet more of the stuff S. globata

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread Barbara Liles
Thank you Catherine. I looked aver the antidotes some - Original Message - From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Dear Barbara, You may want to look at the anecdotes

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 4:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome The psychedelic experience doesn't lend itself too communicable concepts very well. I mean, how does one convey the meaning of Heinliens Grok when Grok is so far beyond the limits

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood. There are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
: Holmes -Original Message- From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome James, I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with drug addiction. I think

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome James, I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with drug addiction. I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved. What is Ibogain. Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever? - Original Message

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread M. G. Devour
Barb wrote (in reply to James): Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated. This thread is a good study in just why and how we allow some off-topic content... The Glad cow subject thread diverged from another, more on-topic one, when somebody started talking about ... err, mushrooms. Then

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread Barbara Liles
in modern medicine's approach to anything. Seems like they just initiate their own chemical dilemma! - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome I am

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-02 Thread Ode Coyote
-Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome I really don't know. I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years. I suspect it was a swollen gland and a good dose

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-02 Thread Ode Coyote
@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:36 AM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood. There are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area. I was hunting psilocybe cubensis. Some days I found one. Other days 80

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-02 Thread Catherine Creel
Dear Barbara, You may want to look at the anecdotes at this site prior to making a decision about ibogaine. http://www.ibogaine.org/ Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at:

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-02 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood. There are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found

CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-01 Thread Ralph D.Gerhardt
AM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range health deterioration. Ibogain. Relatively

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-01 Thread Barbara Liles
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Ode Coyote
in the pies. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Ode Coyote
I really don't know. I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years. I suspect it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from the shroom did it in. The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind gotten from niacin. It is the brain that directs everything, after

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
the sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a molecular level? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome I

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Trem
: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood. There are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area. I was hunting psilocybe cubensis. Some days I found one. Other days 80 and 90 pounds of em. We used to boil em down and put

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range health deterioration. Ibogain. Relatively easy

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
. I would really like to view it. Please check the URL and confirm. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome James Osbourne

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread Bill Missett
Maine Sen. Edmund Muskie of being addicted to (because he was so unexcitable) during the infamous 1972 presidential campaign. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
coprophilous: the US voting public. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Sorry Ken. Stropharia Cubensis is exactly the same as Psilocybe

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a really clear mind

CSRe: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-31 Thread jrowland
Marshall writes: ibogaine...http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/ It is illegal to possess in the US. For something that isn't...yet: http://www.sagewisdom.org/index.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at:

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Trem
: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Oh, spooky. Maybe the shroom enlightened a neoplasm. I'm no expert, but I think it is Stropharia Cubensis that grows in the pies. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Jeannie
Ode Coyote wrote: Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger. Ken Could this have been a fatty tumor? I have several of

CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
If the cows eat them, do they get glad cow disease? I love it! Was that S.C. that you used on the tight muscle? I have never heard of that therapy. I used to grow them, but it quite a project. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger. Ken At 12:26 PM 8/30/02 -0600, you wrote: If the cows eat them, do they get glad cow

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger. Ken At 12:26 PM 8/30/02 -0600, you wrote