Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi, > > Right now, none of ATtiny11/12/15 or AT90S1200 is listed as a supported > device in simulavr. > -- Nice to hear that another feature was dropped... It's time to start a own private stable version ... Regards Klaus ___ Simulavr-devel maili

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Joerg Wunsch
As Klaus wrote: > Yes, you can't buy them anymore. But there are maybe some people which > have some devices "on stack" :-) They are pretty pointless. I once had an ATtiny11, I extra "invented" some small (toy) functionality in order to not throw it away. I wouldn't have considered using it

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Klaus
Hi Markus, Am 21.02.2016 um 21:06 schrieb Markus Hitter: Am 21.02.2016 um 20:48 schrieb Thomas K: But, we haven't this parts in simulavr! Sure, we can implement this parts, but if nobody use it? (that's the question!) In the moment I haven't a problem with that code. It's unused and just dea

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Klaus
Hi Thomas, be relaxed ... :-) Controller with 3 level stack instead of a real stack pointer are obsolete. Yes, you can't buy them anymore. But there are maybe some people which have some devices "on stack" :-) I also have some at90s1200 and maybe someday I will use them... maybe also not, I

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 21.02.2016 um 20:48 schrieb Thomas K: > But, we haven't this parts in simulavr! Sure, we can implement this > parts, but if nobody use it? (that's the question!) In the moment I > haven't a problem with that code. It's unused and just dead code! But > why maintain this, if not used? A contradic

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Albrecht Frenzel
On 21.02.2016 20:48, Thomas K wrote: To answer Albrechts question about who use simulavr: that's the problem of all - it could be from 5 to thousands ... :-) In normal distributions simulavr package is available - but in version 0.1.2.6! For debian a package maintainer is wanted. I assume, that

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas K
Hi Onno, I am not sure whether the tiny15 is still in the current code base - is it? Isn't in code base. :-) How complete is your implementation? cu, Thomas ___ Simulavr-devel mailing list Simulavr-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailma

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas K
Hi Klaus, be relaxed ... :-) Controller with 3 level stack instead of a real stack pointer are obsolete. (as Jörg already wrote) If you look on atmel site this parts are not listed any more. (even the really small tiny's like tiny4/5/9/10 have real stack pointer) Of course you can buy tiny11 a

Re: [Simulavr-devel] modification of AVR simulator for SCA

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas K
Hi Jörg, attiny2313 is tricky, the "old" ones initialized the SP to 0 (datasheet 04/06), the attiny2313a (and attiny4313 also) initialized to RAMEND! (datasheet 11/09) I've implemented it now for tiny2313 with RAMEND. cu, Thomas Am 18.02.2016 um 09:12 schrieb Joerg Wunsch: As Albrecht Fre

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Onno Kortmann
Hey, Am 21.02.2016 um 15:25 schrieb Albrecht Frenzel: > How many users of simulavr recently use it (or plan) to simulate > tiny11/12/15 or at90s1200? > > Does anybody know, how many people really use simulavr? > I am using simulavr from time to time (maybe every couple months) and I believe (am

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Settings for stackpointer

2016-02-21 Thread Albrecht Frenzel
How many users of simulavr recently use it (or plan) to simulate tiny11/12/15 or at90s1200? Does anybody know, how many people really use simulavr? On 21.02.2016 08:18, Klaus wrote: Hi all, So the question is: is there a need to implement tiny11/12/15? (at90s1200 is to old, I think) If n