Re: About the Nine Misunderstandings post [WAS Re: [singularity] I'm just not sure how well...]

2008-04-11 Thread BillK
You* claimed that future AGI enhanced computer viruses will be unstoppable. But future AGI will have to be created *first* and it is intended to protect against misuse of AGI, as in computer viruses. BillK --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/mem

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-03-16 Thread BillK
ked were flung together to get something out the door, so the mugs (sorry, customers) could continue pouring money into Microsoft. Don't use that as a basis for estimates of any kind. BillK --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/membe

Re: [singularity] Wrong focus?

2008-02-01 Thread BillK
feed the inputs direct to an AI and you provide the AI with a sense of touching the virtual universe. Who needs a real body? BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=92620471-46284f

Re: [singularity] Why SuperAGI's Could Never Be That Smart

2007-10-29 Thread BillK
ll be bad for you'? It might be true, but humans definitely won't like it. Especially if they see other people getting what the AGI says will be bad for them to get. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=58706146-5e20b8

Re: [singularity] Re: CEV

2007-10-26 Thread BillK
able fences round human behaviour, which might well drive humans mad with frustration. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=57827499-fadecc

Re: [singularity] CONJECTURE OR TRUTH

2007-10-26 Thread BillK
made it up. I believe the Great Invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster created the Universe and rules every incident in our lives according to his unfathomable purposes. It's just a theory like any other. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=57806640-1f46af

Re: [singularity] Ben G's TransVision talk

2007-08-12 Thread BillK
, partial transcript of my "AI in Second Life" talk at TransVision > 2007 has been put online (along with some pretty amusing photos of me in > Second Life and AGISim ;-) > > http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/people/blog/?p=19 > Renders ok here, on Firefox. BillK -

Re: [singularity] AI is almost here (2/2)

2007-08-02 Thread BillK
aid versions have more enhancements). Sort of like wikis plus editable diagrams plus comments. <http://www.skrbl.com/> is one example. Video-conferencing systems can be similar, but free versions are usually limited to a few participants. <http://thinkature.com/about/> BillK - Th

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-13 Thread BillK
tting on some sites though). Or, under Fonts & Colors, select 'Use System Colors' BillK (running Linux at the moment) - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=20883147-372682

Re: [singularity] AI concerns

2007-07-02 Thread BillK
do. So why not try and ensure humanity will survive the experience? BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=8909014-17fad3

Re: [singularity] AI concerns

2007-07-02 Thread BillK
On 7/1/07, Tom McCabe wrote: --- BillK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/1/07, Tom McCabe wrote: > > > > These rules exist only in your head. They aren't > > written down anywhere, and they will not be > > transferred via osmosis into the AGI. > >

Re: [singularity] AI concerns

2007-07-01 Thread BillK
been ruled to come under this heading. So what? The AGI doesn't care what humans think; it wins the game according to its internal rules, and it thinks that is desirable. As above, the complete rule book, including standards of behaviour, would have to be given to the AGI. BillK - Th

Re: [singularity] AI concerns

2007-07-01 Thread BillK
stract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever. I feel sure that shooting your opponent would cause you to be disqualified and thus lose the game. BillK (a former chess player who has never shot an opponent) - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscrib

Re: [singularity] Uploading (was: critiques of Eliezer's views on AI)

2007-06-26 Thread BillK
restorees hundreds of years in the future will be 'circus freak'. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8

Re: [singularity] Getting ready for takeoff

2007-06-18 Thread BillK
.esm.vt.edu/~sdross/papers/ross-asteroid-mining-2001.pdf> BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8

Re: [singularity] Bootstrapping AI

2007-06-07 Thread BillK
we were asked by a friend what processor they should have in their new pc. "Oh, a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo should be enough for anyone". Not meaning that 2.4GHz should be enough for eternity, but 'enough' at the time of asking. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.

Re: [singularity] Bootstrapping AI

2007-06-05 Thread BillK
it didn't - it took about only 6 years before people started to see that as a real problem." BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8

Re: [singularity] The humans are dead...

2007-05-29 Thread BillK
the people reviewing the report that the search engine data miners produce will be the common man, using all their prejudices and mistaken beliefs. They will have the power to decide, not us. Just something to bear in mind. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email

Re: [singularity] No non-circular argument for deduction?

2007-03-03 Thread BillK
paradox? 5. Is the goal of scientific research to achieve truth? And so on... BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=11983

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-27 Thread BillK
- End extracts. This project looks to me like autonomous robot fighters linking back to an AI-type real-time command and control system. It may not be general AI, but it certainly looks like AI in its own domain of the battlefield. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://ww

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-22 Thread BillK
duce singularity-level events. You should be keeping your fingers crossed that the USA gets there first. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [singularity] Defining the Singularity

2006-10-10 Thread BillK
yet dimly understood. I would add that 'The Singularity' has to be a world-affecting event. If next year a quad-core pc becomes a self-improving AI in a basement in Atlanta, then disappears a hour later into another dimension, then so far as the rest of the world is concerned, the Sing