Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-05 Thread Johnson, Michael A
Thanks Gents, I'm sorry my terminology has caused confusion. However The responses received have clarified things for me. Seems the vendor is not in violation of the standard, just not implementing the solution well. I'll try another tack to get the way they handle the codec negotiation

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-01 Thread Leo Leo
de 2011 20:45 Assunto: Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation. Sorry Dale, I thought it was clear. The PBX (Mitel) that sends the re-invite without SDP, that then accepts the offered G.729 codec from the ISP, despite not being able support the codec is the device I believe

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-01 Thread Brett Tate
- implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Leo Leo Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:49 AM To: Johnson, Michael A; sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation. Hi, Just adding some information, RFC3261 allows sending re-invite

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-01 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: Johnson, Michael A [michael.a.john...@team.telstra.com] The PBX (Mitel) that sends the re-invite without SDP, that then accepts the offered G.729 codec from the ISP, despite not being able support the codec is the device I believe is as fault. The manufacturer however disagrees.

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-01 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
On 07/01/2011 02:24 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: From: Johnson, Michael A [michael.a.john...@team.telstra.com] The PBX (Mitel) that sends the re-invite without SDP, that then accepts the offered G.729 codec from the ISP, despite not being able support the codec is the device I believe is

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-07-01 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 7/1/2011 5:12 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: On 07/01/2011 02:24 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: From: Johnson, Michael A [michael.a.john...@team.telstra.com] The PBX (Mitel) that sends the re-invite without SDP, that then accepts the offered G.729 codec from the ISP, despite not being

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-30 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: Johnson, Michael A [michael.a.john...@team.telstra.com] Thanks Dale, The problem I have is that I cannot find anything definitive in RFC3261 that explicitly states that the system cannot accept the 200OK despite the fact it has no capability to

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-30 Thread Pavesi, Valdemar (NSN - US/Irving)
@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation. From: Johnson, Michael A [michael.a.john...@team.telstra.com] Thanks Dale, The problem I have is that I cannot find anything definitive in RFC3261 that explicitly states that the system

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-30 Thread Johnson, Michael A
Sorry Dale, I thought it was clear. The PBX (Mitel) that sends the re-invite without SDP, that then accepts the offered G.729 codec from the ISP, despite not being able support the codec is the device I believe is as fault. The manufacturer however disagrees. As per the comment Although it

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-29 Thread Johnson, Michael A
I apologise if I have been unclear in the posting. A point to mention is that this vendor (Mitel) do not support 'hold' in the correct sense. They use 'consultation-hold' or the first stage of a transfer as their hold mechanism. While I disagree with this approach, it is not the issue I am

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-29 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
Hold invite: [re-INVITE without SDP] Hold OK with SDP (incoming from ISP) This is sent 3 times. SIP/2.0 200 OK [...] v=0 o=BroadWorks 13783 2 IN IP4 192.168.175.132 s=- c=IN IP4 10.2.1.108 t=0 0 m=audio 16460 RTP/AVP 18 101 a=rtpmap:18 G729a/8000 a=fmtp:18 annexb=no

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-29 Thread Johnson, Michael A
Thanks Dale, The problem I have is that I cannot find anything definitive in RFC3261 that explicitly states that the system cannot accept the 200OK despite the fact it has no capability to handle the codec. The best I see in the RFC is 'SHOULD'. To get the code corrected, I really need a clearly

[Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-28 Thread Johnson, Michael A
I have an issue with a vendor where a call placed from a phone that negotiates G.729 (ISP supports both G.729 G.711) 200 OK with SDP: t=0 0 m=audio 9000 RTP/AVP 8 0 18 101 a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000 a=fmtp:18 annexb=no a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:101 0-15 When I place the call on-hold,

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-28 Thread Kumar Verma, Sunil (Sunil)
: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation. I have an issue with a vendor where a call placed from a phone that negotiates G.729 (ISP supports both G.729 G.711) 200 OK with SDP: t=0 0 m=audio 9000 RTP/AVP 8 0 18 101 a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000 a=fmtp:18 annexb=no a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000

Re: [Sip-implementors] Re-Invite codec renegotiation.

2011-06-28 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
You're not being very clear about this -- you talk of a phone, a PBX, and an ISP. You say I send without making clear which of these devices is sending and which is receiving. What is the offer? What is the answer? In what way do you believe that the answer is incorrect? Dale