Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
That seems also like very good sense, Thanks ! BR/pj Sensitivity: Internal -Original Message- From: Dale R. Worley Sent: den 23 januari 2020 04:21 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Dale R. Worley
"Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)" writes: > What do you think about incrementing the version in SDP o-line, but > not changing anything else in SDP, should such a behavior be accepted > or should it be rejected ? There are two similar but distinctly different questions that you might be

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
v=0 >> o=- 195986 2 IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> s=RFC3264OfferAnswerExchange >> c=IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> b=CT:10000000 >> t=0 0 >> m=audio 23812 RTP/AVP 8 110 >> c=IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 >> a=rtpmap:110 telephone-event/8000 >> a=

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
se ! > > Thanks ! > > BR/pj > > > Sensitivity: Internal > > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > Sent: den 22 januari 2020 16:25 > To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subject:

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
ul Kyzivat Sent: den 22 januari 2020 16:25 To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Sorry, but I'm too lazy to compare those two messages byte by byte to see if they are identical other than the version number. I don't understand the point of you

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Sorry, but I'm too lazy to compare those two messages byte by byte to see if they are identical other than the version number. I don't understand the point of your question. Are you looking for an excuse to increment the version

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether there is any change in SDP from previously received SDP. If the version is changed then they go on to parse the entire SDP to determine the change. Based on that SIP entity

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:110 0-15 a=sendrecv a=ptime:20 BR/pj From: Rohit Jain Sent: den 22 januari 2020 12:36 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks S

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
a=sendrecv a=ptime:20 BR/pj From: Rohit Jain Sent: den 22 januari 2020 12:36 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Rohit Jain
Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether there is any change in SDP from previously received SDP. If the version is changed then they go on to parse the entire SDP to determine the change. Based on that SIP entity can initiate media processing(more relevant in case

[Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
Hi ! What do you think about incrementing the version in SDP o-line, but not changing anything else in SDP, should such a behavior be accepted or should it be rejected ? RFC 4028 states that such behavior at least should be avoided, but is that true also for UA without support for timer ? "

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
r Wiklund [mailto:roger.wikl...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM >>> To: Brett Tate >>> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >>> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change >>> in >>> ear

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
I agree with you but Nokia does not. Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. The problem is I can't find an RFC stating "You MUST NOT increment version number if no change is made to the SDP" Even Paul Kyzviat

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> The violation is: > > "When a reliable provisional response contains a session description, and > is > the first to do so, then that session description is the answer to the > offer > in the INVITE request. The answer cannot be updated, and a new offer > cannot > be sent in a subsequent

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> I agree with you but does not. > > Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number > is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. They can call it whatever they want. RFC 3261 says that the SDP must be ignored (i.e. it is not an updated answer or new offer).

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I just noticed this thread. So I'm jumping in where it seems to make sense. Note that 3261 and friends are *not* very clear about this. RFC6337 tried to clarify the original intent, without being normative. (In retrospect it would probably have been better to make a normative update.) There

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
uot; More inline. > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip- > implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Wiklund > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:47 PM > To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >

[Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
Hi list I'm seeing the following behavior from an Aastra 400 PBX. Flow below is ITSP to PBX INVITE> <100Trying <183 w/SDP PRACK> <200OK (PRACK) <180 w/SDP >PRACK <200OK (PRACK) <200OK (INVITE)w/SDP ACK> BYE> <200OK (BYE) Each time the PBX sends an SDP, the version number is incremented even

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
ger.wikl...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM >> To: Brett Tate >> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change >> in >> early dialog >> >> Hi >> &g

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
correctly, RFC 6337 might even recommend not including an SDP in that situation. > -Original Message- > From: Roger Wiklund [mailto:roger.wikl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM > To: Brett Tate > Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subje

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
sip- >> implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Wiklund >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:47 PM >> To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in > early >>