Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Gaëtan Minet
Hi Pawel, > > echo tail for far is around 100 to 500ms no EC chip can correct for > that. > That is why EVERYBODY needs to cancel near-end echo. > 100 to 500 ms, even for national calls on the same telco ? Wow if that's the case I should stop worrying about EC tail length indeed, nothing c

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Gaëtan Minet
sage- > From: Gaëtan Minet [mailto:gminet...@mcit.be] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:41 AM > To: Paweł Pierścionek; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms > echocancel tai > > Hi > > Thank you very much f

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Scott Richesson
nsmit volume is still plenty loud over our PRI. Scott -Original Message- From: Gaëtan Minet [mailto:gminet...@mcit.be] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:41 AM To: Paweł Pierścionek; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel ta

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Gaëtan Minet
>> > > Try Sangoma Cards (128ms carrier grade EC). Cheaper then Digium if > You buy from us ;) Well we had pretty good prices on Digium but still the A500 models with EC chip are a bit more expensive for the same port density. I'm however still open to discussion about this of-list :) We stil

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Paweł Pierścionek
On 2009-09-09, at 11:41, Gaëtan Minet wrote: > Hi > > Thank you very much for your feedback. > Do you mean the EC is not active at all (even the low 25ms) for the > far-end side when we use the gateway in TE mode to connect a local > sip system to the pstn using BRAs ? > Damned, I must have m

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-09 Thread Gaëtan Minet
Hi Thank you very much for your feedback. Do you mean the EC is not active at all (even the low 25ms) for the far-end side when we use the gateway in TE mode to connect a local sip system to the pstn using BRAs ? Damned, I must have missed this in the datasheet :( So you're not using the gate

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-08 Thread Paweł Pierścionek
Hi, Remember that the EC chip does cancellation only for the echo that You cause not the far end echo. So if all You have are digital (ISDN) phones, no PBX + lengthly cables or multiple A/D D/A conversion nor strange SIP inside than 25ms is OK. 25ms is not ok if You use cheap SIP phones (with no

Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tai

2009-09-08 Thread Tony Graziano
I'm not sure if patton actually stock/sells bra sn's in the US though. -Original Message- From: "Kristian D. Guntzelman" Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Sent: 9/8/2009 4:12:41 PM Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Fwd: Patton smartnode 463x : is 25ms echocancel tailenough ? ISDN-BRI?