Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Dean Hamstead
i can get from here to here by going --- | or by going | --- both perfectly solve the problem, and yet like a glass of water, people will rally behind if its hall full or empty. Dean Rick Welykochy wrote: > > Minh Van Le wrote: > > > Why all the platforms ? - AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Al

[SLUG] RE: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Debian SIG

2001-10-04 Thread Miriam Spielman
Hi Craige (or whoever gets this..) Unless this is an announcement for next year:) could you please clarify the date for me? Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs) When: Wednesday, 12th September 19:00 - 20:00 Cost: $0, $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee Misc: Dinner, alcohol ar

Re: [SLUG] Kernel compiling Problems

2001-10-04 Thread Jim Hague
On 03-Oct-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 07:08:24PM +1000, Alex Chard wrote: >> I am running RedHat Linux 7.1 with kernel version 2.4.2-2. It is running on >> an AMD Athlon 950MHz with 256Mb RAM. >> The error message with preceding messages are: >> [...] > > I plugged "und

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Rob B
At 13:17 4/10/2001, Minh Van Le wrote: >Why all the platforms ? - AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Alpha/Sparc/Sun. Please don't group Alpha with Sun ... us DEC owners are hurting enough as it is :) Rob -- Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art. This is random quote 167 of a collectio

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Peter Rundle
> both perfectly solve the problem, and yet like a glass of water, > people will rally behind if its hall full or empty. In fact the glass is just twice the size it needed to be ;-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listin

[SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
Hi gang, I have an O/T request. What's the most reliable way of tracking down the registered owner of a particular domain ? Reason I ask is that SWMBO and I recently won (yes, WON) a SONY DVP-S9000ES Super Audio CD / DVD Player in a subscription competition run by T3 Australia (very cool

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell said: > Hi gang, > > I have an O/T request. > > What's the most reliable way of tracking down the registered owner of a > particular domain ? > > Reason I ask is that SWMBO and I recently won (yes, WON) a SONY DVP-S9000ES > Super Audio CD / DVD P

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
At 21:43 4/10/01 +1000, Tony Green wrote: >* This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell said: > > Hi gang, > > > > I have an O/T request. Many thanks to Howard, Mary, Tony and any other who replied. For some obfuscated reason, I could not get whois to work here - must look into that. Looks li

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell said: > At 21:43 4/10/01 +1000, Tony Green wrote: > >* This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell said: > >> Hi gang, > >> > >> I have an O/T request. > > Many thanks to Howard, Mary, Tony and any other who replied. For some > obfuscated reason, I cou

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Peter Hardy
On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 21:56, Tony Green wrote: > Shame you didn't know earlier - my parents are coming over lightly > loaded. They could have packed it in a case for you! > > > > P.S. Anyone know anything about laying tongue-&-groove floors (Uniclic > > system I think it's called - damn, I *kne

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
> > > P.S. Anyone know anything about laying tongue-&-groove floors (Uniclic > > > system I think it's called - damn, I *knew* buying this place was > gonna get > > > me in trouble...:-)) > > Does it run debian?? > >apt-get install flooring? > > Oh boy.. I can only say " I am in the presence o

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Christopher Booth
and some are made of plastic, some are goblets of pewter, clay, or glass, and some are even made of crystal. All hold liquid for imbibing - Original Message - From: "Peter Rundle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Why th

Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Terry Collins
Jon Biddell wrote: ..snip... > P.S. Anyone know anything about laying tongue-&-groove floors (Uniclic > system I think it's called - damn, I *knew* buying this place was gonna get > me in trouble...:-)) Yep, there is a special clamp for them. You will need a pair or more. It works off the beare

Re: Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
At 22:19 4/10/01 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: >..snip... Duly noted and files for future reference... Thanks.. >{:-) They don't call me moon face for nothing {:-). I heard they call you lots of other things as well...:-) >Don't know about this "uniclic" stuff. Is that the >pyneboard/chipboard

Re: Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing NetworkAddresses

2001-10-04 Thread Terry Collins
Jon Biddell wrote: > It could loosely be described as such, I guess, but it looks great. I've never laid that. It is just a big fill the floor job. I seem to remember some HW shops have pamphlets on how to do it. If you get stuck, the Sydney Building Info Centre over Silverwater/Olympic Park way

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Thu 04 Oct, Minh Van Le made the following spurious claims: > Why all the platforms ? - AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Alpha/Sparc/Sun. > > Is it a greedy vendor thing, or are there hardware advantages or > something. Why all the different races? Why does natural selection favour species diversity and di

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jim Hague
On 04-Oct-2001 Tony Green wrote: > Name, address and phone number > Registrant: > Bird, Gordon (CCTODAY2-DOM) >Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: > Bird, Gordon (GB15354) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2 White Hart Lane > Godmanchester, Huntingdon PE29 2DR > UK >

Re: Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Catie Flick
On 4 Oct, Terry Collins wrote: I do believe there are additional parts: > > 1. Take one board > 2. Shave off tongue 2.5. Groove > 3. lay first board, nail well. > 4. lay second board[1], clamp[2], nail, > 5. repeat 4 until opposite wall reached (don't nail last 1/2 boards[3]) > 6. remove bo

Re: [SLUG] running a shell script within gnome

2001-10-04 Thread lukekendall
On 28 Sep, Andrew Foster wrote: > > Now what if I want to 'point-and-double click' to have it run ? > > You could always create a launcher on your gnome-panel (if you have one) > or in your GNOME menu. If you're running Nautilus, I think that also > lets you executable, provided they are

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Nick Croft
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: > > I shall now take my leave of you all and go console myself with a portion > of a VERY nice bottle of Butterscotch Schnappes > > Jon > any recommended brand-names? We've got Bacchus here at $15 a bottle. Nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Grou

[SLUG] RedHat 7.1 will close halt gracefully

2001-10-04 Thread Laurie Savage
Just moved across from Mandrake 8.0 to RedHat 7.1 with Ximian desktop to see if less was broken. One significant thing is. shutdown -h now take the machine through a typical shutdown - "Changing to init 0" (or 6) etc unmounts closes variuos daemons then stalls at "no more processes to halt in this

[SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Laurie Savage
Conrad, Never wish for perfect pitch, one day you'll be doing an acoustic gig in a pub and the piano will be ALMOST a complete semitone out! -- Laurie Savage == If Coltrane hadn't have existed it would have been necessary for us to invent

Re: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Adam Kennedy
Yes What you REALLY want to relative pitch, the ability to name any note once you have been given a starting point. Not as sexy as perfect, but just as practical. If something is off by a fraction of a semitone, you'll barely notice :) Adam - Original Message - From: "Laurie Savage" <[

Re: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Nick Croft
Even `perfect' pitch varies by up to 10 (semitone) cents. Tests done on top clarinet and fiddle players playing scales show surprising deviations. Nick Theme & Variations Piano Services 178 Pacific Hwy, GREENWICH, NSW 2065 ===

RE: [SLUG] Completely OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
I thought relative pitch was throwing the mother-in-law out of the top floor window Chris BTW what aural training programs are available for Linux. Advanced chord recognition programs ? like A7alt, Bm7b5, E7#9b13 -Original Message- From: Adam Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Fri

Re: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Nick Croft said: > Even `perfect' pitch varies by up to 10 (semitone) cents. Tests done on > top clarinet and fiddle players playing scales show surprising deviations. > > Nick > slllug-chat -- Greeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8

Re: Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread David Fitch
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 10:19:17PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > 1. Take one board [etc] thanks for the description Terry - that might come in handy for me too! (although I wouldn't have thought of asking on slug!) > Don't know about this "uniclic" stuff. Is that the > pyneboard/chipboard/compr

[SLUG] RPM installation

2001-10-04 Thread Paul DeKievit
Hi All, I've found myself minding a RH 6.2 box all of a sudden and my RH experience is pretty patchy. Being somewhat spoilt with package management in Debian I was wondering if anyone knows of a useful install program similar to apt-get allowing upgrading of rpms and install new ones as well as

Re: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Stuart Cooper
> Never wish for perfect pitch, one day you'll be doing an acoustic gig in > a pub and the piano will be ALMOST a complete semitone out! Brahms reputedly once had to play the piano part of a violin sonata one semitone higher throughout to accomodate a hard to tune violin. "Perfect" pitch makes

[SLUG] debian linux job

2001-10-04 Thread bart bunting
Hi all, Hopefully this isn't too off topic. If anyone is interested, our company has a couple of job openings for linux people. The job add is posted at: http://www.linux.org.au/jobs/jobdetail.phtml?refnum=000314 Bart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Mor

RE: [SLUG] Completely OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
At 09:02 5/10/01 +1000, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: >I thought relative pitch was throwing the mother-in-law out of the top floor >window Only, and I stress ONLY, of she clears the nature strip on the full, otherwise it's a foul and you have to take her back and try again...:-) -- S

Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
At 07:38 5/10/01 +1000, Nick Croft wrote: >On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: > > > > > I shall now take my leave of you all and go console myself with a portion > > of a VERY nice bottle of Butterscotch Schnappes > > > > Jon > > >any recommended brand-names? We've got Bacchus here at $1

Re: Laying Tongue & Groove, was Re: [SLUG] Tracing Network Addresses

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
>thanks for the description Terry - that might come in handy >for me too! (although I wouldn't have thought of asking on slug!) hey, it was late, OK ? And I was doped up on painkillers for my migraine (definition: MIGRAINE - that state of mind achieved, either voluntarily or accidentally, whe

[SLUG] NOW audio software for Linux

2001-10-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
I think this was meant for the list -Original Message- From: Laurie Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:53 AM To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP Subject: Re: [SLUG] Completely OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids Nasty!! Any one seen any music tran

RE: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Jill Rowling
But Conrad may not have been talking about (musical) pitch, although one would have thought so from the context. He may have wanted perfect {black tarry substance used as caulking} or perfect {roof slope} on his house or perfect {big drop on side of cliff/cave/shaft} or perfect {sales patter} or p

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread Dean Hamstead
Thats thinking outside the square ;) (or cup in this case) Dean Peter Rundle wrote: > > > both perfectly solve the problem, and yet like a glass of water, > > people will rally behind if its hall full or empty. > > In fact the glass is just twice the size it needed to be ;-) > > -- > SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] NOW audio software for Linux

2001-10-04 Thread Broun, Bevan
> Any one seen any music transcription software for Linux - I'm hunting now. Im not sure what your after. Lilypond (Tex bases) creates great looking sheet music. BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] Parramatta Computer Access Network

2001-10-04 Thread Matthew Davidson
Hello, Been a while since I've spammed anybody, so for those who are interested, the Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan) is having one of it's increasingly regular junkfest/meetings this Saturday: 11am-4pm Saturday 6th October, Dundas Area Neighbourhood Centre

Re: [SLUG] Parramatta Computer Access Network

2001-10-04 Thread Jon Biddell
>Also we'll take your junk. Pentiums and over, plus any network cable >(desperately needed), hubs, modems, drives, etc. If anybody's got a >recent set of the 'unofficial' Woody CD's, that would be great as well. Matthew, I have a stack of Network cable here that you (or, indeed,anyone else in

Re: [SLUG] Parramatta Computer Access Network

2001-10-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Been a while since I've spammed anybody Yeah! Where's my daily dose of spam? :) > 11am-4pm Saturday 6th October, > Dundas Area Neighbourhood Centre > 21 Sturt St, Telopea, NSW, 2117. Cool. I'd love to come along, unfortunately this weekend is out for me. :( How is cat doing these days? Anyt

Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms

2001-10-04 Thread David Fitch
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:40:06AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: > Thats thinking outside the square ;) > (or cup in this case) you mustn't have heard the joke before... a pessimist calls the glass half empty an optimist calls it half full and an engineer says it's twice as big as it needs to be!

Re: [SLUG] Parramatta Computer Access Network

2001-10-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
(Sorry all, muttfingers migrating to L out of habit. Didn't mean to add more offtopic matter to the list today.) - Jeff -- Markets are what you sell bubbly health drinks, flourescent blow up furniture and mobile phone ring melodies to. -- SLUG - Sydney

[SLUG] getting netgear fa310tx to work?

2001-10-04 Thread Andrew Fries
Howdy, Could someone please tell me how to configure the network card in question? I read several positive statements about it on various Linux lists and it is sold by everythinglinux shop so I assumed it was well supported. But to my slight suprise when I actually installed Linux (Suse 7.0) I fo

[SLUG] handy way to merge txt files?

2001-10-04 Thread cpaul
hi - i have two plaintext files i want to merge them, discarding duplicate lines is there an easy way ? thx! chris paul -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] RPM installation

2001-10-04 Thread Marcus Dillury
I believe rhnsd (RedHat Network deamon) will do some of that for you. I don't like it though, as you have to register with redhat and it sends out info on your system profile to RH. On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Paul DeKievit wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:53:27 +1000 > From: Paul DeKievit <[EMAIL PR

Re: [SLUG] handy way to merge txt files?

2001-10-04 Thread Broun, Bevan
on Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 04:02:16PM -1000, cpaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi - i have two plaintext files > > i want to merge them, discarding duplicate lines > > is there an easy way ? cat file1 file2 | sort | uniq BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.a

Re: [SLUG] handy way to merge txt files?

2001-10-04 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 04:02:16PM -1000, cpaul wrote: > > hi - i have two plaintext files > > i want to merge them, discarding duplicate lines > > is there an easy way ? If you don't mind reordering the lines: cat file1 file2 | sort | uniq > file3 -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Grou

Re: [SLUG] getting netgear fa310tx to work?

2001-10-04 Thread Peter Hardy
On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 15:59, Andrew Fries wrote: > supported. But to my slight suprise when I actually installed Linux (Suse > 7.0) I found this card isn't among those recognised by Yast. > Then I tried to look at the specs for this card listed on netgear's > website hoping to see something I wou

Re: [SLUG] RPM installation

2001-10-04 Thread cpaul
> > management in Debian I was wondering if anyone knows of a useful install > > program similar to apt-get allowing upgrading of rpms and install new > > ones as well as look after package dependency? there's always gnorpm, no ? i like ximian gnome's redcarpet - real neat -- chris paul --

Re: [SLUG] NOW audio software for Linux

2001-10-04 Thread Laurie Savage
A Windows app called Slowgold will sample a section of music from a CD, buffer it and replay it at about 50% with no decrease in Pitch. Perfect for studying style and transcribing solos. Laurie "Broun, Bevan" wrote: > > Any one seen any music transcription software for Linux - I'm hunting now.