Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 10:16, David wrote: Hmmm... so we should all use Windows? Dodgey logic here. ;-) Apache runs fine on Windows, I can assure you. Who defined it had to run on Linux? I would like to point out that slug does support Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) on any platform.

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 10:16, David wrote: Hmmm... so we should all use Windows? Dodgey logic here. ;-) Apache runs fine on Windows, I can assure you. Who defined it had to run on Linux? I would like to point out that slug does support Free and

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread Jan Schmidt
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 18:32, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 10:16, David wrote: Hmmm... so we should all use Windows? Dodgey logic here. ;-) Apache runs fine on Windows, I can assure you. Who defined it had to run on Linux? I would like to point out that slug does support Free

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 18:53, Mary Gardiner wrote: I think this is fair enough actually. The popularity of MS Windows *is* a reason to use it (it's familiar, there are a lot of admins who know it...). The popularity of Apache is also a reason to use Apache. This is a very reasonable approach.

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread David Kempe
Slug should actively support Windows gimp, OOo, cygwin, putty because it is a start on the road to all that is right and good. (Ooops fell off my soapbox...) miniplug Over here at Solutions First, we have put together a cd with apps just like this that we consider useful. You can get the

[SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Louis
Hi Sluggers: When I run a script via browser to get the domain name of a website I use $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}. How do I get the same domain name from the command line ? I have tried use Net::Domain qw(hostname hostfqdn hostdomain); But the contents of hostdomain is returning the actual server's

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Wed 26 Nov, Eddie F bloviated thus: I'd like to *sell* apache to the boss. Something like this on IIS and Apache would be great. Anyone got any such links handy? Code Red and Nimbda. Enough said. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net If we knew what it was we were doing,

Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-27 Thread mlh
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:41:42 + Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Code Red and Nimbda. Enough said. That's Nimda. And they'd come back with Slapper. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Grant Parnell
Normally I like to think I can work out what people mean when they don't explain it well. This time I just cant make sense of the question. Please try to explain the flow eg. browser click--web_server1--perl_script1--web_server2--perl_script2 or ssh server1--perl_script2 If you're trying to run

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Chubb
Grant == Grant Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grant HTTP_HOST=`grep ^ServerName /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf| awk Grant '{print $2}'` Why bother with grep when awk can do it for you? $ awk '/^ServerName/ { print $2 } ' /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf or whatever. Sorry, but excessive

[SLUG] enable command....

2003-11-27 Thread scott
Hi All, I have debian Woody installed, and noticed something a little odd There is two enable commands, one appears to be a bash builtin, and the other for enabling printers in cups. lotus-server:~# enable kyocera bash: enable: kyocera: not a shell builtin lotus-server:~# /usr/bin/enable

Re: [SLUG] enable command....

2003-11-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have debian Woody installed, and noticed something a little odd There is two enable commands, one appears to be a bash builtin, and the other for enabling printers in cups. lotus-server:~# enable kyocera bash: enable: kyocera:

[SLUG] Debian window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Alan L Tyree
In Debian Woody - I have two window managers installed. How does Debian determine the default when I startx? Thanks, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 --

Re: [SLUG] Debian window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 11:53:05AM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: In Debian Woody - I have two window managers installed. How does Debian determine the default when I startx? update-alternatives --display x-window-manager If you want to change the default, change --display to --config. -- As far

Re: [SLUG] Debian window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 11:53:05AM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: In Debian Woody - I have two window managers installed. How does Debian determine the default when I startx? Using the alternatives system. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo update-alternatives --display x-window-manager Password:

Re: [SLUG] Debian window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Alan L Tyree wrote: In Debian Woody - I have two window managers installed. How does Debian determine the default when I startx? The alternatives system. ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager When each of the window manager packages are installed, they register

[SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Simon Bryan
I noticed a discussion here about this topic but it wandered from what I need to know. We are currently runinng a Windows NT Domain, we need to move on to an Windows AD Domain (NT is no longer sujpported etc). A simple option is of course to just put in a Windows 2003 server - but this then means

Re: [SLUG] Debian window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Alan L Tyree
Thanks for the multiple replies on this. As an old RH user, I am very impressed with Debian configuration, etc, etc. I think I will be switching over main machines soon. Cheers, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Bryan The question is can I go to Samba 3 and completely replace the Windows server - therefor no access licences to worry about. Has anyone done this that can give me amy pitfalls to watch out for? Only a few minor compatibility issues (but they're documented). The major

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
Simon Bryan wrote: The question is can I go to Samba 3 and completely replace the Windows server - therefor no access licences to worry about. Has anyone done this that can give me amy pitfalls to watch out for? Will I need a separate authentication server such as LDAP or will the SAMBA server do

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Del
Phil Scarratt wrote: Simon Bryan wrote: The question is can I go to Samba 3 and completely replace the Windows server - I'm going to stick my neck out and say Yes. amy pitfalls to watch out for? Will I need a separate authentication server such as LDAP or will the SAMBA server do the

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28-11-2003 12:37:52 PM: Phil Scarratt wrote: Simon Bryan wrote: The question is can I go to Samba 3 and completely replace the Windows server - I'm going to stick my neck out and say Yes. As far as I understand (I have not used Samba 3, or Windows AD,

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
Del wrote: Yes, but as of Samba 3, Windows 2000 / XP machines can now join that domain. There is no effective difference from the user-on-a-workstation-typing-word-documents point of view. Win2k and WinXP Pro could join on smb2.x as well - just needed a little tweaking before handhaving

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand (I have not used Samba 3, or Windows AD, so I am speaking from purely research and interpretation) you cannot have 'control' of the user profile like with Windows AD. ie: adding/modifying printers, removing access to certain resources etc.

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Dave Kempe
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 12:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE prove me wrong! We have a samba 2 domain, with Win2k/XP machines, and I am forever fixing printer problems, and other things that people stuff up... It would be easier if we all ran Linux though. *sigh* this post probably helps

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Louis
For domain accounts on the server I'm using there is no httpd.conf under the directory /etc/httpd/conf, although the directory itself exists. This file can only be seen from admin or root user's /etc/httpd/conf directory owned by root. Then what does the browser ENV% queries to get HTTP_HOST as

[SLUG] Mailbox location

2003-11-27 Thread Edwin Humphries
For some unknown reason, sendmail has started putting mail into /home/usr/Mail/mbox files, rather than /var/spool/mail/usr files. Although I've set up a cron job to move the files regularly so that our user POP clients can access them, I'd prefer a real solution - like knowing what's changed.

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Louis wrote: Hi Sluggers: When I run a script via browser to get the domain name of a website I use $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}. How do I get the same domain name from the command line ? HTTP_HOST gets set in the environment by the webserver when it calls the CGI, thus

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Rick Welykochy
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Louis wrote: My objective is to get a Perl command line script get this for a domain. That's why I was trying some Net modules. Via browser the script gets it easy from the ENV%. You are referring to %ENV, I presume. The environment inside the web server is the CGI

Re: [SLUG] Mailbox location

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Hardy
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:55, Edwin Humphries wrote: For some unknown reason, sendmail has started putting mail into /home/usr/Mail/mbox files, rather than /var/spool/mail/usr files. *snip* We were doing some fooling around with procmail to allow spamassassin to work, but that (as far as I

Re: [SLUG] Command line equivalent of $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'}

2003-11-27 Thread Grant Parnell
Could you be just simply after echo $HTTP_HOST in shell script? If that's not it don't ask me again directly, I still can't understand the question. On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Louis wrote: For domain accounts on the server I'm using there is no httpd.conf under the directory /etc/httpd/conf,

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Simon Bryan
Thanks all for the quick info, that combined with a bit more reading has convinced us that what we will do is setup the server as a Samba server specifically to become the PDC in our domain and then retire the exisiting one - which is slow and running out of space. We are pretty sure that we

[SLUG] SAMBA config options

2003-11-27 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi all Is there a way that I can see what config options my current Samba install was configure with? I notice with Samba 3 it is in the config.log, but does not seem to be there in earlier versions. -- Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group -

Re: [SLUG] SAMBA config options

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Bryan Is there a way that I can see what config options my current Samba install was configure with? I notice with Samba 3 it is in the config.log, but does not seem to be there in earlier versions. Grab the source package for your distribution and check the build info (in the

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Nathan Clark
- Original Message - From: Simon Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Simon - I just got tasked with the same neat job you got! I noticed a discussion here about this topic but it wandered from what I need to know. We are currently runinng a Windows NT Domain, we need to move on to an Windows

[SLUG] smoothwall.

2003-11-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
hi, this is for those of you that use smoothwall. I've configured smoothwall as follows. ip address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 dns will be auto configured as I have a ppp connection. network configuration with reference to nics and internet is as follows. green/red modem will be on

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Nathan Clark wrote: Cons - $$$, 2003 AD is not compatible with Samba 3 AD clients Where did you get this i9nformation before? I'm fairly sure I've set this up in the past and its worked fine. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

RE: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Michael Collins
Cons - $$$, 2003 AD is not compatible with Samba 3 AD clients Where did you get this i9nformation before? I'm fairly sure I've set this up in the past and its worked fine. From the official samba docos... http://samba.mirror.aarnet.edu.au/samba/docs/man/samba-pdc.html#id289292 1

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Michael Collins Cons - $$$, 2003 AD is not compatible with Samba 3 AD clients 2003 AD does not work with Samba 3 AD clients. Samba-3 is not, and cannot act as, an Active Directory Server. Samba cannot be an AD server. The second is correct. The first, as far as I know, is

[SLUG] Security Certifacte

2003-11-27 Thread Jared Pritchard
Hello. Our security certificate is going to expire on the 11-12-03. I'm new to this business since the original was implemented. Back then, it was done via Equifax. The old keys etc. went under the default names of 'server.key' 'server.crt' and so on I have generated a new key for the

[SLUG] Debian menu in the window managers

2003-11-27 Thread Michael Lake
Hi all, While on the subject of window managers... I have just got X and enlightenment running again after a reinstall due to apple upgrading firmware. I dont have any debian menus when I click with the left mouse button on the desktop. They are normally created under a directory debian_menus

RE: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Michael Collins wrote: Cons - $$$, 2003 AD is not compatible with Samba 3 AD clients Where did you get this i9nformation before? I'm fairly sure I've set this up in the past and its worked fine. From the official samba docos... Samba-3 is not, and cannot act

Re: [SLUG] Samba and Windows AD

2003-11-27 Thread Nathan Clark
- Original Message - From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your response, but I think you may have read the above post incorrectly. The person I am responding to says Samba 3 can't be a *client* in a Win2K3 Active Directory domain. I think it can. I'll recant that

[SLUG] Hardware

2003-11-27 Thread John Gibbons
Hi SLUGs, I am brand new to Linux and know practically nothing aboutitbut somehow managed to install Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP. Need advice on suitable medium price colour inkjet printer and suitable scanner plus drivers. Also need a driver for either Wacom tablet or Acecat Flair tablet.

Re: [SLUG] Hardware

2003-11-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
John Gibbons wrote: Hi SLUGs, I am brand new to Linux and know practically nothing about it but somehow managed to install Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP. Need advice on suitable medium price colour inkjet printer and suitable scanner plus drivers. Also need a driver for either Wacom tablet or

Re: [SLUG] Hardware

2003-11-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
John Gibbons wrote: Hi SLUGs, I am brand new to Linux and know practically nothing about it but somehow managed to install Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP. Need advice on suitable medium price colour inkjet printer and suitable scanner plus drivers. Also need a driver for either Wacom tablet or

Re: [SLUG] enable command....

2003-11-27 Thread Ken Foskey
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 11:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have debian Woody installed, and noticed something a little odd There is two enable commands, one appears to be a bash builtin, and the other for enabling printers in cups. lotus-server:~# enable kyocera bash: enable: