Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Marghanita == Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au writes: Marghanita Has anyone done any work/know of any research on the Marghanita effect of Tuning ICT systems and direct energy Marghanita use/indirect energy use (heat generation/airconditioning)?

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles andResponsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
David wrote: On 18/10/12 11:18, David Lyon wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM, kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: What does 12W translate to in $ terms for 12 months use, knowing that most PC's are not switched off at work. That seem low. However, 12W adds up. I generally use a laptop and

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 18/10/12 10:58, David Lyon wrote: In the last few days, I've been reading studies showing that average power consumption of a PC is about 12W. Which is not incredibly high. Makes me wonder how much I’m killing the planet with the 700W power supply in my PC. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Walkom
That's a max rating, if you are running s PSU with high efficiency and low voltage hardware (eg slower CPU/RAM, SSD), then you will be a lot better off than owning a dual GPU, i7 gaming beast. On 18 October 2012 20:51, Jeremy Visser jer...@visser.name wrote: On 18/10/12 10:58, David Lyon wrote:

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Jake Anderson
just because you have a 700w psu doesn't mean you will be using 700w. The actual load from the cpu/gpu/hdds etc combined with the efficiency of the power supply gives you the at the wall consumption. Most office machines will pull ~60-100W depending on cpu vintage and work load. gaming machine

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Tom Worthington
On 18/10/12 10:02, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Has anyone done any work/know of any research on the effect of Tuning ICT systems and direct energy use/indirect energy use ... See the chapter Energy saving - Data Centres and Client Equipment in my book ICT Sustainability: Assessment and

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread grove
Not many people are aware, but I was surprised, after discussing with some engineers a few years ago, that the physical vibrations of equipment in their racks can actually cause power increases and performance issues purely as a result of the vibrations interfering with disk seek times and so

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Walkom
On 19 October 2012 10:09, gr...@zeta.org.au wrote: Not many people are aware, but I was surprised, after discussing with some engineers a few years ago, that the physical vibrations of equipment in their racks can actually cause power increases and performance issues purely as a result of the

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread David Lyon
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Jeremy Visser jer...@visser.name wrote: Makes me wonder how much I’m killing the planet with the 700W power supply in my PC. You won't kill the planet, on account of it having an iron core. Don't worry. You'd need thousands of megawatts (at least) for your

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
David Lyon wrote: snip In any case just because it is rated at 700W doesn't mean that the computer is using 700W. snip Unfortunately, when it comes to power generation, it is the peak load that needs to be catered for. So, if on a hot day, you do a CPU hungry simulation or compile, which

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Tom Worthington wrote: snip See the chapter Energy saving - Data Centres and Client Equipment in my book ICT Sustainability: Assessment and Strategies for a Low Carbon Future: http://www.tomw.net.au/ict_sustainability/saving.shtml Low-energy equipment: Select low energy component and

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread James Linder
On 19/10/2012, at 7:47 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: In the last few days, I've been reading studies showing that average power consumption of a PC is about 12W. Which is not incredibly high. Makes me wonder how much I’m killing the planet with the 700W power supply in my PC.

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
James Linder wrote: snip (laptop power 10w to 50w (say), efficiency of charger (say) 70%, efficiency of batteries (say) 70%) what is worse: toxic chemicals from landfill, or toxic chemicals from power generation using coal ... (most fish in the USA have mercury, that is largely from coal

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Chesterton
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, if anything, Sydney/NSW Governments are more adverse to automation and programming than other countries (say the US, Japan, Europe) and simply won't entertain having computer operated systems such as

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Michael Chesterton wrote: snip Sydney trains have been planning to computerise since the waterfall accident. There will be constant monitoring of speed and position and overrides if something goes out of whack, too fast, too close, or whatever. Its primary goal is safety though, not efficiency.

Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)

2012-10-18 Thread David Lyon
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Michael Chesterton che...@chesterton.id.au wrote: Its primary goal is safety though, not efficiency. I want to add a linux angle, but can't think of one. The powers-that-be-here don't even want you to know what can actually be achieved with Linux. In Tokyo