Re: [SLUG] alternative file systems

2001-07-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 02:03:43PM +1000, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: Are there conversion tools to convert from ext2fs to xfs or reiserfs ? The traditional ones are dump | restore. These days you could probably get away with tar, though. No, you really don't want to attempt to

Re: [SLUG] Good Editors for C development

2001-05-24 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:42:56PM +1000, Andy Eager wrote: Does anyone know of any good development environments / editors for writting c-apps with multiple source files. Of course. There are two equally valid answers, and they have existed for a _very_ long time. These are: 1) Unix (with

Re: [SLUG] Good Editors for C development

2001-05-24 Thread Andrew Reilly
On 24 May, Mike Holland wrote: You mean working at the shell level? Is it possible to integrate vi with compilation debugging? Of course! Everything is integrated into the (multi-window) shell environment :-) - click on compiler error message to jump to that line in editor man 1 error -

Re: [SLUG] troff

2001-05-20 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:02:53AM +1000, Luke McKee wrote: Do you know of any good books on troff? How about info groff ? It isn't complete, but it looks as though it's a start. There's also /usr/share/doc/usd/19.memacros/ Writing papers with groff using -me by Eric Allman. -- Andrew --

Re: tkRat email client Re: [SLUG] mutt and urls

2001-05-16 Thread Andrew Reilly
I too am a long-time tkrat user. It works, and does most of the things that well mannered text-mode MUAs doo, and some of the things that graphical ones do too. It is pretty ugly, and the user interface has some problems. I'm going to try postillion, though. Thanks for that reference, group.

Re: [SLUG] Biggest Corporate Contributions to Free Software

2001-05-03 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:50PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: UC Berkeley: BSD et al In the same vein: MIT for X, and whoever the corporate sponsors of XFree86.org are... -- Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Simple Graphics with C

2001-05-02 Thread Andrew Reilly
Thanks Jim, That discussion has given me a lot of confidence that I _can_ fit the GUI world into my mental framework. Also thanks to Matthew, Mike and Jamie, for their suggestions. On 2 May, Jim Hague wrote: Handling a situation where you have some big slab of computing to do can be tricky

Re: [SLUG] Simple Graphics with C

2001-05-01 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:42:44AM +0100, Jim Hague wrote: However - and the reason I thought I'd chip in, as I'm not sure it emerged clearly from Crossfire's summary of the possibilities - you need to be prepared to shift your programming mind around a bit. I speak as one who also made the

Re: [SLUG] Enivormental variables.

2001-04-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:30:53PM +0800, Greg Hosler wrote: On 24-Apr-01 Craig wrote: Hi all, Simple question, but one I can't find the answer to. How do you set an Enviromental Variable in bash? export variable_name=value That's the bash extension mechanism. There are also

Re: [SLUG] chroot

2001-03-29 Thread Andrew Reilly
Thanks for that reference. I don't think I've ever seen a clearer go-to-woah analysis of this sort of hackery. Very neat indeed. Needless to say FreeBSD doesn't have that particular hole anymore, though. A quick scan through /usr/src/sys/miscfs/procfs/procfs_status.c shows that the result

Re: [SLUG] chroot

2001-03-28 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:35:36PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: Is there any way for root to break out of a chroot jail? I tried the obvious and they didn't work, and the man/info is next to useless. How about re-mounting the disks inside the chroot partition? There must be something

Re: [SLUG] chroot

2001-03-28 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:07:18PM +1000, Martin wrote: on the subject of bind, has anyone researched the alternatives to bind? anyone used djbdns? There was a big argument about djbdns on the FreeBSD lists recently. The biggest gripe was that it doesn't support some of the more recent DNS

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-08 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:37:01PM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: Andrew Reilly wrote: (Hell, strings|par|less usually does a fine job!) 'par' not found. Quoting the doco: Par is similar but superiour to the fmt(1) command included in the base system. Par is a filter

Re: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems

2001-03-08 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:11:08PM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:59:08PM +1100, Michael Covi uttered: Define a sudo for startx ? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ummm, no. Look for your Xwrapper.config: steven@broken:~$ cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +1100, enterfornone wrote: Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. But there's nothing to know. If your employer plops you down

Re: [SLUG] Linux Friendly ISPs?

2001-03-06 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:52:33PM +1100, Tom Deckert wrote: Anyone have comments on Linux-friendly ISPs? When I called around to many of the ISPs listed in the ISP review of Australia PC Magazine, they all said they didn't support Linux. Previously I was with iHug, and didn't have a

Re: [SLUG] Basic Unix commands

2001-02-27 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:55:51PM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: How do I create a floppy disk from Unix. There are many ways, but one of the most useful is the "mtools" utilities. If you find and install them, you can then use mformat, mcopy mdir, and so on, and treat it just like a DOS floppy.

Re: [SLUG] Gnome 1.2 Easter Eggs

2001-02-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:45:34PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Paul Cameron" I like having all of the screen to myself, and minimising distractions. For me, distractions are fancy window decorations, sound effects whenever I so much as look at my wm, image background. fvwm doesn't

Re: [SLUG] Control vs. Caps Lock

2001-02-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:30:25AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: One of the first things I do with a new Linux setup is swap capslock and ctrl. Some people even go further and map capslock to ctrl, i.e. no capslock left. I'm beginning to think that makes sense too. For the uninitiated, this is most

Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:29:22AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser- crap overhead, I'd be interested You pretty much need a browser these days, though, so that you can read the

Re: [SLUG] Wierdness - or maybe I need sleep

2001-02-21 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:24:42PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote: Assume we have two machines, A and B, running the same version of Linux. A is a workstation, B is a server (with Samba share for the Mrs) On A, user 1 has a UID of 500, user 2 has a UID of 501 On B, user 1 has a UID of 501, user

Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:57:42PM +1100, Wylie Edwards wrote: anyone know of a good client that will allow access to that damn thing called exchange and its schedules etc?? i doubt there will be but if anyone knows some alternatives would be much appreciated. Can't help with the schedules

[SLUG] Anyone heard of this? (Redmond Linux)

2001-02-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
I was browsing http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/ just now, found the "Mirror Updates and News" link for the first time, and in that list saw a reference to: RedmondLinux Build22 released (including ISO) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redmondlinux/ Anyone heard of this before? Is it what the name

Re: [SLUG] Anyone heard of this? (Redmond Linux)

2001-02-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
On 18 Feb, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: http://www.redmondlinux.org/ Ah. Fairly non-threatening, then. Sorry for not checking it out myself first. -- Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Mozilla

2001-02-13 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:18:31PM +, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: bitch Why didn't Mozilla concentrate on writing a good web browser instead of a mail reader, news reader, Swiss Army Knife and kitchen sink? /bitch Well, if their toolkits were a bit more efficient, it would actually be one of

Re: [SLUG] Why do all mail servers suck? (Maildir + POP3)

2001-02-11 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 03:39:05PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: It seems odd that whilst almost everyone in "I don't have my own hosted domain" land require IMAP or POP3, just about all of the daemons operating with these protocols suck. On with the question... I thought that the server daemons

Re: Web browsing stupidity [was Re: [SLUG] Greetings. New user question.]

2001-01-29 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:04:50PM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote: I beleive Mozilla also conforms to w3c standards and http 1.1 unlike IE in some (maybe all) cases. I don't know enough javascript to get myself out of whatever trouble it can get you into, but the Web guy at work curses Netscape-6

Re: Web browsing stupidity [was Re: [SLUG] Greetings. New user question.]

2001-01-28 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:00:05PM +1100, enterfornone wrote: it's certainly pre-beta at present. Netscape 4 is a joke. I'll use Lynx or wget if I need to quickly look up a URL without rebooting. At present if I'm going to be doing any serious web browsing I need to reboot. Not because

Re: [SLUG] Private ADSL connection possible?

2001-01-24 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:22:11AM +1100, Michael Still wrote: Surely that's like saying I can't plug 2 56k modems into a phone connection and have it go. Well, you can't. At least they might as well not be 56k modems, because they basically have to fall back to 33k or so with V.34-ish

Re: [SLUG] Re: PDF to printer with psutils

2000-12-17 Thread Andrew Reilly
\begin{Jamie Honan} dreamland I wish OfficeWorks or Snap or ... had a service (via the web) where you uploaded a postscript file, it gave you a quote based on number of pages, copies, sides, colour, binding etc. Later it was delivered or you picked it up. /dreamland reality

Re: [SLUG] Exchange server replacement.

2000-12-14 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 05:11:31PM +1100, DaZZa wrote: Only catch is that AFAIK, there's NO Linux client for Notes, and never will be. Also, Notes needs its own client - Outlook will _not_ work. On the other hand, you get all the other Notes advantages as well as mail. On the third hand, the

Re: [SLUG] Why Free Software is doomed... DOOMED!

2000-12-10 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 06:01:38AM +1100, Jason Stokes wrote: Actually, it's no more dodgy to have Orbit functionality in the kernel than it is to have RPC and NFS functionality in the kernel. The dodgy bits of RPC and NFS _aren't_ in the kernel. RPC is just sockets, anyway. Service and host

Re: [SLUG] Problem with cat command

2000-11-13 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:04:03PM +1100, Rachel Polanskis wrote: This sounds like you have hit the 32bit limit with both cat and the filesystem. One solution is to run a 64bit OS ;) Or *BSD, which has had 64-bit off_t etc since '95 or so, even on 32-bit CPUs. Actual file sizes are limited

Re: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2

2000-11-02 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:28:06AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: HTML is a text markup facility. MIME is a general-purpose encoding scheme for *any* content type. Tell me, Luke, how would MIME help you enriched email using MIME? The only way I can think of is encoding an enriched document,

Re: [SLUG] Converting mbox to maildir on Debian

2000-10-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 02:46:18AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: I'm interested in giving maildirs a go now, just to see what they're like, etc. However, given that I'm a sucker for the Debian way, I can't just install qmail willy-nilly, and my first guess is that the 'maildir' utility comes with

Re: [SLUG] xterm - confused (8-(

2000-10-19 Thread Andrew Reilly
Hi Howard, On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:25:46PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: I am totally confused wrt xterm after ploughing thru the doco. I think that's because you're looking for something that isn't there. I need an X capable terminal emulator that will emulate a Wyse 60 especially wrt

Re: [SLUG] html email format

2000-10-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:22:50AM +1000, Alister Waller wrote: Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list?? if so, why is that? Because instant deletion by 90% of the list is not conducive to discussion. You were hoping that others would _read_ your message, no? --

Re: [SLUG] Re: sendmail replacement

2000-10-14 Thread Andrew Reilly
I read that backwards at first, and had penned a most indignant reply. I think a quick rephrasing will still make use of it: On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 04:10:23PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: this is one of its big plusses over qmail. the users (and most admin tasks) don't notice any difference to

Re: [SLUG] Rodos, one to add to your list...

2000-10-11 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 05:33:50AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote: 'begin' is used for uuencoded attachments on usenet (and in email), so maybe (as Outhouse Explodes is a (i say cautiously) newsreader as well) this is part of it's proactive usability in identifying and decoding attachments for

Re: [SLUG] [OT] Debian Flame on LWN

2000-10-03 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:00:23AM +1100, DaZZa wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Dave Kempe wrote: TANSTAAFL! What the hell does that mean? :-/ You never read Heinlein? There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. TANSTAAFL! Heinlein is required reading for proto-geeks... -- Andrew

Re: [SLUG] IDE for java / C etc.

2000-09-19 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:33:42PM +1000, John Wiltshire wrote: Personally I prefer an IDE because I believe the whole is greater than the some of the parts. Unfortunately I haven't found any tools for Linux C++ development that really rival the individual tools method. Ah. Maybe it's the

Re: [SLUG] Question about Email (what do u use?)

2000-09-06 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 04:48:20PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking at alot of email clients that support Mutiple email accounts retrieving and sending You're going about it the wrong way. Well, an argument could be made that there's a reason to want to do things the way

Re: [SLUG] Gnome window sizes

2000-08-31 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:22:56PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Conrad Parker wrote: quick question ... anyone know how sawfish implements its scripting? (probably one of swig, or native guile [ie. guile but not via swig]) librep, a lightweight, embeddable Lisp interpreter/virtual

Re: [SLUG] Gnome window sizes

2000-08-31 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:07:52PM +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:22:56PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Conrad Parker wrote: quick question ... anyone know how sawfish implements its scripting? (probably one of swig, or native guile [ie. guile but not via swig

Re: [SLUG] Help with rm

2000-08-29 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 09:58:23AM +1100, Russell Davies wrote: ; cd $dir echo * | xargs -n 400 rm -f ; ; And just as well, echo * would have run into the same arglist ; limitations. ls | xargs rm would be better. ; quite.. without the performance hit of forking and running rm _for every

Re: [SLUG] Help with rm

2000-08-29 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 08:32:10PM +1100, Scott Howard wrote: A number of other options have been given, but this one will work on all occasions on all (?) platforms : find /base/dir/name -type f -print | sed 's/ /\\ /g' | xargs rm -f Nope, try: $ mkdir foo $ touch 'foo/bad\file' $ touch

Re: [SLUG] Help with rm

2000-08-28 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 09:32:51AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: I have managed to runout of inodes on a partition du to a buggy routine. I know what I want to delete, but when I do rm -f * in the problem directory it comes back with "Argument list too long" Can anyone think of a way

Re: [SLUG] Select and kill running process

2000-08-22 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:44:42PM +, Herbert Xu wrote: Jill Rowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually signal 9 seems to be the only common signal number with the different Unixes. You mean there is a Unix out there that doesn't have TERM on 15, or 2 on INT? I was about to post

Re: [SLUG] Browser for X under 24Mb

2000-08-20 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:34:28PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Looking for recommendations for a browser that can run under X running on a 24Mb machine. The user is a begineer. gui preferred. Windows Manager is Fwm??? Well, GUI browsers for X don't get any smaller than chimera, or chimera2

Re: [SLUG] Browser for X under 24Mb

2000-08-20 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:51:09PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Looking for recommendations for a browser that can run under X running on a 24Mb machine. The user is a begineer. gui preferred. Windows Manager is Fwm??? How about Mosaic? It doesn't do all of the modern stuff, but it still

Re: [SLUG] interesting rumour

2000-08-17 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 02:16:11PM +1000, John Wiltshire wrote: In effect there will be very little gain to the OSS community from application written for Carbon or Cocoa (such as IE or OE). These apps still require a major porting effort to work on X/KDE/Gnome/whatever. Except for

Re: [SLUG] interesting rumour, IE on linux

2000-08-17 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:51:53AM +1000, Nelson wrote: looks like IE and media player are going to be (being?) ported. ok, this is interesting to me from a different perspective. MS seem to revolve around the dollar, so why are they doing this? is it going to be freeware? open source? or

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's Unix Sucks Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:54:14AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Of course code reuse is a Good Thing[tm], but most programmers i know will not search for hours looking for a module, they will write their own. It isn't it just UNIX, it is people's attitudes as well. I think that's the crux

Downloading costs, ISOs, vs... (was Re: [SLUG] Microsloth having a go)

2000-08-08 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 01:49:38PM +1000, John Wiltshire wrote: Linux ISOs are a lot more expensive (though arguably better value for money). Glad I'm on a flat rate. ;-) That's why I like to keep my OS updated by weekly CVS check-outs. You never have to grab the whole shebang in one go.

Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement

2000-08-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 05:11:14PM +1000, John Ferlito wrote: Not sure if anyone has posted this yet since in the ADSL thread since I've been quickly reading over it but telstra have slashed the bandwidth on the cable service. Cable connections will now have max bandwidth of

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:24:40PM +1000, Matt wrote: Ermm .. I always remember having trouble restoring windows after I have minimised them in (??) Enlightenment ? Once they were minimised I would have to call a taskbar to get them back, I just discovered that an ALT TAB seems to restore em

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:40:51PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Whilst I was hoping for some debate and discussion on FS UI's and such, it's always good to solve a few troubles along the way... :) Nautilus looks as though it has some really nice features. It didn't take long for Mac OS-X's

Re: [SLUG] To learn, to troll, to participate?

2000-07-27 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:36:39PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: P.S. I got an invite from M$ today to attend a bullshit-session at Fox Studios next month to hear Bill Himself speak on MSN/2 (microsoft.net, their answer to Internet/2 !!). I hope Anthony has some of those cool Linux

Re: [SLUG] lock users to their home directories on a telnet?

2000-07-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:29:16PM +1000, George Vieira wrote: Is it possible to lock telnet users to their home directories under RedHat =6.1? No. You almost certainly don't want to do that. You might think that you do, but you don't. You can hide things from the users, by putting them in