[SLUG] Linux small business server setup guide

2005-09-01 Thread Simon Wong
Just found this in my browser travels. Aguide to setting up Debian Sarge as a small office server that does the following using LDAP for "single sign-on": DHCP-server DNS-server Fileserver (Samba/NFS) FTP-server Webserver Webmail / Client filters

Re: Open Source Guild (Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business)

2002-01-09 Thread James Morris
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Conrad Parker wrote: > I'd like to expand on Grant's ideas here, and suggest that local open > source workers could benefit from more communication, perhaps the formation > of a guild and from considering more seriously the role of certification. I think this is an excellent

Open Source Guild (Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business)

2002-01-09 Thread Conrad Parker
I'd like to expand on Grant's ideas here, and suggest that local open source workers could benefit from more communication, perhaps the formation of a guild and from considering more seriously the role of certification. This is a semi-structured food for thought, a bunch of open questions many of

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-09 Thread Rich Buggy
> > Thought of something else on the way home, here it is in point form:- http://www.elance.com/ Same idea, bigger scale -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-09 Thread Howard Lowndes
An idea worthy of development. On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Grant Parnell wrote: > Thought of something else on the way home, here it is in point form:- > > * co-op website with linux 'service' organisations > * linux workers can login & create a skills/location profile > (perhaps an ABN with a password

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-09 Thread Howard Lowndes
More to the point is making them aware that it is "non-Microsoft". I think most business users have some idea of the problems that M$ incurs. On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Grant Parnell wrote: > > (b) How and where do you advertise such a niche service in terms > that > > your average Joe can understand

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-09 Thread Grant Parnell
Thought of something else on the way home, here it is in point form:- * co-op website with linux 'service' organisations * linux workers can login & create a skills/location profile (perhaps an ABN with a password?) * people wanting work done can create a job profile { by job I mean a one off pr

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-09 Thread Grant Parnell
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Stephan Borg wrote: > Hello all, > > Two opinions that I would like to share with you and get some feedback. > > (1) Linux is Free, we all know that and who better to benefit from it > than Small Businesses. > Unfortunately, there are a couple of points which work against t

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Rick Welykochy
Michael Lake wrote: > > It's not really an issue anymore. > Yes it is. It's the 21st century, we have had word processors for yonks > and there is still no stable open document exchange standard that is widely > used (SGML could have been it but it aint). I NEED one, we all need one > but consume

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Howard Lowndes
We also need a business to adopt a good operating system, but business is still blinkered by that other marketing hype. When Linux account managers start to play golf we might get somewhere. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Michael Lake wrote: > > It's not really an issue anymore. > Yes it is. It's the 21st

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Christopher Booth
Will we ever see Lotus Word Pro for Linux ? Local computer shop is offering Lotus SmartSuite Millenium as an extra for PC bundles at $35. At least it's not Micro$oft Chris On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 22:50:17 +1100 "Michael Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher Booth wrote: > > I was under

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Alan L Tyree
>> It's not really an issue anymore. > Yes it is. It's the 21st century, we have had word processors for yonks > and there is still no stable open document exchange standard that is widely > used (SGML could have been it but it aint). I NEED one, we all need one > but consumers are too blinkered

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 22:38, Michael Lake wrote: > > I get lots of M$ Word files for the Royal Society of NSW Journal that > I edit and typeset. I use SO5.2 but find that some tables don't get > converted properly and often "smart quotes" will become ^W. I have to > be particularly careful in

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Lake
Christopher Booth wrote: > I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Stalwarts. I have a few friends who are Lawers. Yes WP used to have the law field tiedup but a few offices I know are converting all their old WP files to Word. Legal Secretaries coming out of tech course

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Lake
Alan L Tyree wrote: > I act as a consultant to a large city law firm who (of course) uses > MS. Since upgrading to SO 5.2 there has been no problem with > interchange of files. Diagrams and revisions all seem to come and go > with no problem. I get lots of M$ Word files for the Royal Society of N

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-07 Thread Richard Hayes
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:12, you wrote: > Does anyone use Corel WP these days? > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Christopher Booth wrote: > > I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Yes, I do. I just went back to it in the last few days. I have been with StarOffice / KOffice but th

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-07 Thread Terry Collins
Christopher Booth wrote: > > I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Stalwarts. They were, but about 5 years ago, they started faltering and changing. > > Chris > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:02:55 +1100 (EST) > "Howard Lowndes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's inter

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-07 Thread Howard Lowndes
Does anyone use Corel WP these days? On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Christopher Booth wrote: > I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Stalwarts. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing somethin

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-07 Thread Martin Morgan
For database packages: I am told that Clarion works well under linux. It is certainly user friendly to use, although different enough to Access at first glance to make it look painful to an Access programmer. It does have the advantage of being able to produce Mac, win & unix executables for those

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Christopher Booth
SO 6 beta is great from what I've used it for, there is now no SO desktop or EMail features, but the Microsoft Word compatability is more fine tuned. I would most definitely recommend it. I am unaware of any good accounting packages for Linux yet, or DataBase packages as user friendly (albeit c

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Raena Lea-Shannon
Christopher Booth wrote: > > I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Stalwarts. In my experience they/we mostly use MS Word (Office 97 version mostly). I use SO at home and swap files with work. I have not tried SO 6 yet but if what someone else posted is true then it is

RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Alan L Tyree
>> I have a friend who is a Sydney QC and would like to get his practice off >> M$, but his main arguement is that all his business associates who deal >> with him want to transfer material in M$ Office. Yes, I know that SO with >> do M$ Office, but it is not native. > Honestly with V6 the diffe

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Christopher Booth
I was under the impression that most law firms were Word Perfect Stalwarts. Chris On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:02:55 +1100 (EST) "Howard Lowndes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's interesting that you say you are a lawyer and hence I assume that you > use Linux/SO/etc in your practice. > > I have a f

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Howard Lowndes wrote: > My perception of Linux and small business is that it works too damned > well. That's the problem with any computing technology - or anything, for that matter. If it works too well, it fails to make the consciousness. When it does fall over, it's a ca

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Stephan Borg wrote: > (1) Linux is Free, we all know that and who better to benefit from it > than Small Businesses. > Unfortunately, there are a couple of points which work against this > 'marriage made in OpenSourcedem': > (a) Your average Joe Business Owner most probably ha

RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Stephan Borg wrote: > I think the point I was trying to make in my original post (don't you > love it) now that I look at it, is: > > How can you bring Linux to the attention of Joe 'SME' User? I don't. They say 'I want to do foo' and I say 'here is box that does foo'. It

Re: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Malcolm V
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 23:51, Raena Lea-Shannon wrote: [...snipped...] > Yes but also inexpensively and permanently. [...snipped...] > And once it is in they do not have to touch it. They will want it on their Linux and the apps that run on it are not perfect. Monitoring and patching will still be

Re: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Ken Foskey
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 00:02, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > I have a friend who is a Sydney QC and would like to get his practice off > M$, but his main arguement is that all his business associates who deal > with him want to transfer material in M$ Office. Yes, I know that SO with > do M$ Office, b

Re: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread David
> > *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old > regime, and only lukewarm support is forthcoming from those who would > prosper under the new. Their support is indifferent partly from fear and > partly because they are generally incredulous, never really trusting new > t

Re: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Howard Lowndes
It's interesting that you say you are a lawyer and hence I assume that you use Linux/SO/etc in your practice. I have a friend who is a Sydney QC and would like to get his practice off M$, but his main arguement is that all his business associates who deal with him want to transfer material in M$

Re: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Raena Lea-Shannon
Having picked this thread up on the digest I apolgise for only replying to the list. > Subject: RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:36:26 +1100 > From: "Stephan Borg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Osgiliath Pty Ltd > To: "&#

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
> How can you bring Linux to the attention of Joe 'SME' User? Find a problem, solve it. You have to remember that to an anal-retentive small business manager, blippity-whizz-bang-digi-bl0rken-splort doesn't matter. You don't need to bring Linux to their attention - bring stuff that fixes their

RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Stephan Borg
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Howard Lowndes > Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2002 9:16 PM > To: Jeff Waugh > Cc: 'slug' > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business > > > I'll agree with that statement. I have a large client who is > very pro-Linux; so

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Howard Lowndes
I'll agree with that statement. I have a large client who is very pro-Linux; so much so that he went and did the course. He still doesn't know a great deal about Linux, but he does know about the bottom line, and that makes him a happy client. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Note: "S

RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Howard Lowndes
...and in most cases they don't have anyone who knows about Windows either. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Stephan Borg wrote: > It's a lot easier to go to your local computer shop and get > support for the majority of applications on a Windows box than to go > look for someone with StarOffice or Pos

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Howard Lowndes
My perception of Linux and small business is that it works too damned well. If you put a Linux box into an SME, and you have done your bit correctly then it will just hum along and not bother anyone. That cannot be said for the dark side. I am always convinced that one problem with M$ servers i

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > I think this is pretty far from the truth nowadays. Small business > > people who know bits and pieces about computers and are investigating > > technology definitely know about Linux. To a lesser extent "Open > > Source", and to a far lesser extent, "Free Software". It's just been too > > a

RE: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Stephan Borg
> -Original Message- > On Behalf Of Jeff Waugh > Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2002 8:02 PM > > > (a) Your average Joe Business Owner most probably has never > heard of > > it before and/or doesn't even know Linux/OpenSource exists. > > I think this is pretty far from the truth nowadays. Sma

Re: [SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
> (a) Your average Joe Business Owner most probably has never heard of it > before and/or doesn't even know Linux/OpenSource exists. I think this is pretty far from the truth nowadays. Small business people who know bits and pieces about computers and are investigating technology definitely kno

[SLUG] Linux & Small Business

2002-01-06 Thread Stephan Borg
Hello all, Two opinions that I would like to share with you and get some feedback. (1) Linux is Free, we all know that and who better to benefit from it than Small Businesses. Unfortunately, there are a couple of points which work against this 'marriage made in OpenSourcedem': (a) Your average