Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-16 Thread James Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rick Welykochy said: >For the browserless and the lazy, Allchin [M$ O/S chief] said: "We can build a better product than Linux." I was going to say something about this, but User Friendly did it better. http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010216&mode=classic

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Donohue
hi slugs, good story at the following link. raises some interesting points. http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/7515.html ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Morrissey
A little closer to home they are claiming that "Business Runs Better on M$". And are about to spend $$M. to preach that in the media. The preachings of Chairman ??? - perhaps they could publish them on a little red PDA. http://www.microsoft.com/australia/directaccess/agilityresources.asp

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one > that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. *sigh* Autocracy, yes. Oligarchy, maybe. Communism, no. > Which is much more redmond (maybe they built there becasue of the red > connotations) than the

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
In communism everything is owned by the state, then is given out as needed. Sounds like MS. They buy everything, then let you have it in restricted user license packages. The only difference is Russia made lots of cool stuff and achieved alot of cool things, auto-play is just annoying ;) Dean J

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Raoul Golan
Jason Rennie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a threat to true > > red-blooded Americans. > > Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one > that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. Which is > much more

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
> among the most successful that has ever been. I think Australian's find > that "American Way" stuff really wierd sounding, but I bet it sounds > quite patriotic and honourable to many Americans. What would you expect from a nation that gave us, nuclear weapons, mcdonalds and vanilla ice ;) Jas

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
> Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a threat to true > red-blooded Americans. Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. Which is much more redmond (maybe they built there becasue of the red con

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
> > > and the winner is: > > (*) I'm an American, I believe in the > American Way. Did you know Open Source is the american way ? What is more feircly competitive than competeing open source projects. I would cite te animosity between KDE and GNOME developers as a prime example. Well at least

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Howard Lowndes
Not so bad really. At least with Linux you could nobble the email BEFORE it reaches OE. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
The same america that doesnt export strong encryption. Dean Raoul Golan wrote: > Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> and the winner is: >> >> (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. > > > > Hmmm... yet another reason to use Linux. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Raoul Golan
Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > and the winner is: > > (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. Hmmm... yet another reason to use Linux. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Terry Collins
Dean Hamstead wrote: > Americans are generally alot more patriotic that Australians. Which is a > little od when you first come across it. Im not going to get into the > whole 'australian' attitude thing. American patriotism is centered around the $. Australian patritism is centred around pe

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
>>> (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government >>> encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of >>> policy makers to understand the threat. >> >> Sounds like cold-war propaganda. Lol. MS are really peeing their pants >> a

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Martin
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: > > (*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative > > in the computer industry. > > > > (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer > > No, Open Source is just intellectual-property people have chosen to g

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread James Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rick Welykochy said: > (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government > encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of > policy makers to understand the threat. Damn those Open Source Communists, they're

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread jon
What M$ need to do is get Office, FrontPage, etc (all their crappy, but POPULAR applications) ported to Linux as commercial apps (not necessarily GPL'd) if they want to make money Oh God, I just realised what I said - a Linux version of Outlook... AARRRGGH

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
> (*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative > in the computer industry. > > (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer No, Open Source is just intellectual-property people have chosen to give away. MS can still sell its slop. If it was say.

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Pete Black
Hopefully, his lower intestine will strangle his brain in an effort to save humanity. de Zwart. Around about 1142h 16/02/2001, Rick Welykochy emitted the following wisdom: > These are the words of one damn worried high flying MS executive. They border > on hysteria, pychosis and a total

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Morrissey
You missed the best part Rick Mr Allchin has declared that M$ now provides FREE Support for their products. "Microsoft provides support to change and develop products based on its operating system software that Linux companies don't, he said. Companies that use Linux in their products then mu

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
> (*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative > in the computer industry. > > (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer What an oxymoric pair of statements. >From everything we see, intellectual-property laws and the like are what stifle ino

RE: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Wylie Edwards
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Welykochy Sent: Friday, 16 February 2001 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation Latest from the "reverse the FUD sideways up America's backsides and they won't notice" department, oops, sorry, la

[SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
Latest from the "reverse the FUD sideways up America's backsides and they won't notice" department, oops, sorry, latest from Mickeysoft: http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html For the browserless and the lazy, Allchin [M$ O/S chief] said: (*) he's concerned t