Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-09 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:23:36PM +1100, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > > > > I think most people would be better off with a separate > > phone and a PDA. Having a slim/small phone is good, > > and being a PDA is incompatible with "slim". > > I disagree - I used to have a Nokia and an Palm Pilot - hav

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-09 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 01:31:53PM +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30:21PM +1100, david wrote: > > I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know > > zilch. > > I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether > you really need a pda phone :-). >

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Christopher Vance
On 11/7/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, November 6, 2006 8:10 pm, Ryan Verner wrote: > I'll add my 2c - I bought an o2 Atom PDA/Phone about 6 months ago, and > it's a decision I'm quite happy with, despite it being a Windows Mobile > device. I honestly have no idea how I li

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 8:10 pm, Ryan Verner wrote: > I'll add my 2c - I bought an o2 Atom PDA/Phone about 6 months ago, and > it's a decision I'm quite happy with, despite it being a Windows Mobile > device. I honestly have no idea how I lived without it before. that's the one, or, followup mo

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Ryan Verner
I'll add my 2c - I bought an o2 Atom PDA/Phone about 6 months ago, and it's a decision I'm quite happy with, despite it being a Windows Mobile device. I honestly have no idea how I lived without it before. http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtomExec/template/Product.vm The Atom is a very small, sli

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Morgan Storey
david wrote: > Excuse my ignorance... but > > I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know > zilch. > > Can anyone suggest a retailer in or near the Sydney CBD that actually > doesn't faint when I say the word "linux", or alternatively, is there a > model that is just so

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
> lastly, as much as I like Palm, sadly, I feel PalmOS is heading for dead > end, now that Palm is making wince Treos. ALP is looking good. I think WinCE was inevitable with Palm and PalmSource parting ways... But now PalmSource is part of ACCESS. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Austral

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Tue, November 7, 2006 12:19 am, Ben wrote: > On 11/6/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish I'd gone down that path myself. I've wasted $2K messing about > with smartphones. thanks, Ben, I feel $2k richer now... > One other option is to get a decent PDA with CF or USB function

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Ben
On 11/6/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been a long time PDA user, largely for reasons you mentioned, every time I was considering new hardware, that exactly why I always ended up going for PDA-only I wish I'd gone down that path myself. I've wasted $2K messing about with sm

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 11:36 pm, Mary Cudmore wrote: > What's the PDA for? Email, calendar, contacts, notes, photos, games, > browser, various apps, music player, ssh client .. all of the above, plus a few more, to replace notebook > It'll very much depend upon what the requirement is. yes.

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Mary Cudmore
What's the PDA for? Email, calendar, contacts, notes, photos, games, browser, various apps, music player, ssh client .. It'll very much depend upon what the requirement is. Mary. Voytek Eymont wrote: On Mon, November 6, 2006 8:48 pm, Ben wrote: The other point is that getting a phone/PDA

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 8:48 pm, Ben wrote: > The other point is that getting a phone/PDA combo isn't the efficiency > helper it might seem to be, (which I'd forgotten about, having been rid of > the things for a while now). -snip- I have been a long time PDA user, largely for reasons you ment

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 7:09 pm, Alexander Samad wrote: > The one advantage of having the 2 together is you can dial straight from > your contact list. for example open calendar, view appointment, look at > invitees and open contact details and then ring, instead of having to > transfer phone

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Voytek Eymont
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 03:01:25PM +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether >>> you really need a pda phone :-). >> >> most ppl I know seem to think , yes' > > The one advantage of having the 2 together is you can dial straight from > your contact list.

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Ben
On 11/6/06, Alexander Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The one advantage of having the 2 together is you can dial straight from your contact list. This is pretty much the only reason to put the two together, but don't forget VoIP. You'll need WiFi on the PDA so you can call out with VoIP and no

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-06 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 03:01:25PM +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: > > On Mon, November 6, 2006 1:31 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30:21PM +1100, david wrote: > > > I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether > > you really need a pda phone :-). > > most ppl I know

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
> What license is Palm OS distributed under? Garnet is not FLOSS at all, but there are plenty of FLOSS development tools (including compiler) for it. ACCESS Linux Platform will be thoroughly based on FLOSS (including the GNOME Mobile and Embedded Platform)... but has some proprietary secret sauc

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Hal Ashburner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > I don't know, and I don't understand your point, either. My comment suggests > that every non-Palm PDA operating system is an exercise in pain. I made no > reference to FLOSS. > Lemme try again. What license is Palm OS distributed under? (And all deserve joy, happiness, la

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Amos Shapira wrote: > Nice one. Is it practical to transfer photos that way? Via GPRS? Well, if you've got deep pockets I guess so, though it won't be super fast. Bluetooth works fine for that. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net Only one per

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 02:36:11PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > You will deserve all flavours of pain and misery if you give your wife a > > > device that does not run Palm OS. :-) > > > > Oh really? > > > > What's wrong with my search engine skills? > > http://www.g

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 06/11/06, Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is another option. I have a Nokia 6630, though any Symbian phone should do. It syncs using SyncML to an online calendar service called Mobical[1]. The synchronisation goes over GPRS, so can be done anywhere. That way, no need to

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 1:31 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30:21PM +1100, david wrote: > I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether > you really need a pda phone :-). most ppl I know seem to think , yes' I thought about it, whether I should get a Treo or Palm

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Mon, November 6, 2006 2:36 pm, Jeff Waugh wrote: > >> Jeff Waugh wrote: > >> What am I missing in this conversation? > I don't know, and I don't understand your point, either. My comment > suggests that every non-Palm PDA operating system is an exercise in pain. > I made no > reference to F

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, david wrote: > You can be as annoying as you please. I'm hoping that there will be a > really good PDA flame war which will result in my knowing > zilch ;-) You've come to the right place ;) > She has to replace her basic phone, and she is running Ubuntu desktop, > s

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread david
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 13:31 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30:21PM +1100, david wrote: > > I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know > > zilch. > > I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether > you really need a pda phone :-). > You can

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > You will deserve all flavours of pain and misery if you give your wife a > > device that does not run Palm OS. :-) > > Oh really? > > What's wrong with my search engine skills? > http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=source+code+download+site%3Awww.palm.com&btnG=Search

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Hal Ashburner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > You > will deserve all flavours of pain and misery if you give your wife a device > that does not run Palm OS. :-) > Oh really? What's wrong with my search engine skills? http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=source+code+download+site%3Awww.palm.com&btnG=Search&meta= Wh

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30:21PM +1100, david wrote: > I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know > zilch. I'm going to be /really/ annoying and ask whether you really need a pda phone :-). I think most people would be better off with a separate phone and a PDA. Having

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know zilch. > > Can anyone suggest a retailer in or near the Sydney CBD that actually > doesn't faint when I say the word "linux", or alternatively, is there a > model that is just so good that nothing else is worth considering (yea

Re: [SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread Ben
On 11/6/06, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know zilch. Can anyone suggest a retailer in or near the Sydney CBD that actually doesn't faint when I say the word "linux", or alternatively, is there a model that is just so good that not

[SLUG] PDA/phone/linux

2006-11-05 Thread david
Excuse my ignorance... but I've been asked to get a PDA phone for my wife, about which I know zilch. Can anyone suggest a retailer in or near the Sydney CBD that actually doesn't faint when I say the word "linux", or alternatively, is there a model that is just so good that nothing else is wo