Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-21 Thread Nigel Allen
On 21/02/2010 20:56, Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 03:18:24PM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: > Greetings I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Give

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-21 Thread Nigel Allen
On 20/02/2010 01:00, Jake Anderson wrote: Nigel Allen wrote: Greetings I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly busy machine (mail ser

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-21 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 03:18:24PM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: > > Greetings > > I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm > looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. > > Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a > fairly busy machine

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Brett Coady
> >From: David Kempe >To: Brett Coady >Cc: "slug@slug.org.au" >Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 12:20:43 PM >Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM > > > > >On 20/02/2010, at 11:53 AM, Brett Coady wrote: > > >>> >>The trouble with Bonnie

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread David Kempe
On 20/02/2010, at 11:53 AM, Brett Coady wrote: The trouble with Bonnie and IOzone is that they test the filesystem , for my example I was looking at the raw disk speed for raid results. Well if you keep the kernel and filesystem identical between runs you end up benchmarking the h

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Brett Coady
- Original Message > From: Dave Kempe > To: Brett Coady > Cc: slug@slug.org.au > Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 8:10:00 AM > Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM > > - "Brett Coady" wrote: > > > > These read-times were all done with: hdpa

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Pittman
Brett Coady writes: [I *hope* I got the citations right here; for some reason your email didn't include any of the normal bits in text you cited. :/ ] > From: "Tony Sceats" > To: slug@slug.org.au > >> Slower, though ... is a bit of a strange claim.  Not because it is false, >> but because th

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Kempe
- "Brett Coady" wrote: > > These read-times were all done with: hdparm -tT /dev/(device) > Anyone know a good non destructive write test for benchmarking HDD ? > > Hope this helps > Brett Bonnie++ is what we use. You can use IOzone if you like complex charts. hdparm isn't great for this so

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Brett Coady
From: "Tony Sceats" To: slug@slug.org.au > > Slower, though ... is a bit of a strange claim.  Not because it is false, > but > because t

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread james
On Friday 19 February 2010 19:29:48 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > >> I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking > >> for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. > >> > >> Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly > >> busy ma

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Jake Anderson
Nigel Allen wrote: Greetings I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly busy machine (mail server for 40+ users) I'd like to achieve: 1

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Pittman
Tony Sceats writes: >> Slower, though ... is a bit of a strange claim. Not because it is false, >> but because the answer is complex: you can, for example, double read speed >> and halve write speed, using a two disk RAID 1 array ... in the ideal case. > > I must say I'm curious about this, beca

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-18 Thread Tony Sceats
> > Slower, though ... is a bit of a strange claim. Not because it is false, > but > because the answer is complex: you can, for example, double read speed and > halve write speed, using a two disk RAID 1 array ... in the ideal case. > I must say I'm curious about this, because I have always assu

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-18 Thread Daniel Pittman
james writes: > On Friday 19 February 2010 05:37:31 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > >> I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking >> for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. >> >> Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly >

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-18 Thread james
On Friday 19 February 2010 05:37:31 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking > for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. > > Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly > busy machine (mail se

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-18 Thread Nigel Allen
On 18/02/2010 16:45, Paul De Audney wrote: Hi, On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Nigel Allen wrote: I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-17 Thread Paul De Audney
Hi, On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Nigel Allen wrote: > I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for > suggestions as to the best way to partition them. > > Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly busy > machine (mail server for 40+

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-17 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Dean" == Dean Hamstead writes: Dean> Regardless of the method used, with two drives you either get Dean> speed or reliability, you dont get both. Dean> You either mirror (reliability) or stripe (speed). Actually, mirroring should improve speed for reads, because you can read from the dis

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-17 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Nigel" == Nigel Allen writes: Nigel> Greetings Nigel> I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and Nigel> I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition Nigel> them. How much space do you need? For reliability and performance, straight mirroring is a good be

Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
Regardless of the method used, with two drives you either get speed or reliability, you dont get both. You either mirror (reliability) or stripe (speed). Dean Nigel Allen wrote: Greetings I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the

[SLUG] RAID and LVM

2010-02-17 Thread Nigel Allen
Greetings I want to set up a pair of 1 TB drives on an HP DL145 G3 and I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to partition them. Would I be best using software RAID and LVM? Given that it's a fairly busy machine (mail server for 40+ users) I'd like to achieve: 1) Speed 2) Reliabili